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Did anyone here watch True The Vote's "The Pit" today?

Posted on 08/13/2022 1:33:13 PM PDT by MNDude

I saw 2000 Mules and was very impressed by it. So I had really big expectations for this event today considering how much they hyped it.

Since I can't find anything on it, I assume it wasn't anything ground shattering revealed today.

What did they say?


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To: kabar
This is a national coordinated and directed operation. Two of the AZ mules participated in the GA senate runoff elections according to TTV.

Why would anyone pay mules to travel cross-country to deposit ballots in drop boxes when they could just be dropped into the mail?

81 posted on 08/13/2022 7:42:41 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: kabar

Also in 2000 Mules, private citizens camped out in their cars and recorded mules...!!!!


82 posted on 08/13/2022 7:42:50 PM PDT by YouGoTexasGirl ( )
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
"But of the ones that did have video, how come there was shown only one "mule" drop, when they claimed the "mule" visited on ten or more occasions? "

So the movie won't be 10 hours long.

83 posted on 08/13/2022 7:53:42 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: semimojo

Maybe because mailboxes do have cameras on them?


84 posted on 08/13/2022 7:55:13 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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To: semimojo

LOL. Good one.


85 posted on 08/13/2022 7:56:42 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
"But of the ones that did have video, how come there was shown only one "mule" drop, when they claimed the "mule" visited on ten or more occasions? "

So the movie won't be 10 hours long.

There were only ~12 minutes of drop box videos. They could have cut the conversation with the Daily Wire crew and friends and actually shown videos to support what they claim about the "mules". I'm leaning toward the notion that they just don't have any video of persons making multiple drops. Why would you leave out such damning evidence? That's the entire premise of the movie folks!

86 posted on 08/13/2022 8:06:54 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

You don’t need a video to qualify as evidence. We have videos, but as was mentioned today, most of the videos are poor or non-existent.

They have the evidence. Trillions of pings. Terabytes of data. What exactly do you want to see? Are you an expert in geofencing? Could you analyze the data that TTV purchased?

Did you click on the NYT link contained in the article? Is that how you want the data depicted?

FYI: TTV provided the data to the FBI?


87 posted on 08/13/2022 8:07:25 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
What exactly do you want to see? Are you an expert in geofencing? Could you analyze the data that TTV purchased?

You bet I can. And I know a lot of other people who also can.
I want to see the data behind this:

I want to see the data behind the other 232 Georgia "mules" as well.
I want real evidence. Not a picture or graph that anyone could draw. Everyone should be demanding eit, instead of taking the word of that man in that video.

88 posted on 08/13/2022 8:36:27 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: goodnesswins
Maybe because mailboxes do have cameras on them?

Generally they don't, but even if they did, so what?

All you'll see at a mail box is thousands of people dropping their mail, some unknown percentage of which will be ballots.

What would that tell you?

89 posted on 08/13/2022 8:56:36 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

They have it. All of the detractors in the media don’t want to see it. Sort of like Fauci ignoring the studies that contradict what he is saying. Why hasn’t the MSM had TTV on to defend their findings? TTV have invited anyone and everyone to debate them. No takers.

If you are the expert you assert you are, go to TTV and examine it. The data supporting the graph certainly exists. The software used to analyze and aggregate the data can be examined by you. Exactly what are your qualifications? What specifically do you want to see?


90 posted on 08/13/2022 8:57:08 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I have heard Catherine say the distance was closer to a meter.

Thanks for responding, but I guess I have to repeat myself.

The question is not "Is Geospatial Data with Cellphones Precise?"

The question is "How precise was the specific geospatial data purchased by True The Vote."

Contrary to what some Freepers seem to believe, I did not come up with the the 100 foot figure myself. I first saw it in the Georgia Bureau of Investigation letter, and I was surprised to see Dinesh D'Souza effectively confirm it in his interview with Philip Bump.

Where did the 100 foot number originate? Perhaps from phone companies or other geospatial data vendors that sold their data to TTV. The accuracy/precision numbers should have been specified in the sale documents, e.g. "We are selling 1.2 terabytes of geospatial data to True the Vote that we guarantee to be accurate to within a radius of 100 feet." If those sales documents say "accurate to with one meter" then TTV should long ago have released them to the public, and the information should have been highlighted in 2000 Mules. Instead the number was kept hidden, which was one of the red flags for me that the film was not what it pretended to be -- and what I wanted it to be.

The number becomes critically important when considering the criminal prosecution of mules based on the geospatial data. No prosecutor will bring a case based on 100 foot data. "Let me get this straight. You are accusing my client of voter fraud because he drove within 100 feet of a few ballot boxes?"

So, why would the TTV accuracy only be 100 feet, when it can be much better? Perhaps the data vendors were using old equipment, perhaps there were environmental factors affecting reception, there could me many reasons. I'm sure the data vendors would have liked to be able to say that they guaranteed the data to be more accurate, but for some reason, that did not happen. D'Souza has had a long time to clear this up, and he just keeps repeating "Geospatial data can be very accurate!" He never says, "The companies that sold us our data guaranteed that it would be highly accurate, and I'll provide the documentation." Why hasn't he done that?

My other main point in this thread is that if the mule hypothesis in 2000 Mules is correct, by now there should have been many confirmations of that, with plenty of mules and stash houses identified. The bigger the conspiracy, the greater the chances of leaks, and this conspiracy supposedly involved many thousands of people. It was gigantic. Yet the expected confirmation has not appeared. Why not?

Trump does not need D'Souza and TTV on his team, and Freepers should not trust them.

91 posted on 08/13/2022 9:10:43 PM PDT by TChad ("Joe, we should evacuate the civilians before the military. You understand that, right? Joe?")
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To: semimojo

No...the mules obviously did not want to use mailboxes, that we know of...hhhmmm...wonder if anyone has checked some mailboxes in same way as drop boxes?


92 posted on 08/13/2022 9:12:17 PM PDT by goodnesswins (The Chinese are teaching calculus to their 3rd graders while ours are trying to pick a pronoun.)
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To: goodnesswins
No...the mules obviously did not want to use mailboxes…

The point is you don’t need mules in the first place. The non-profits could find lots of ways to get ballots into the mail with no one monitoring.

This whole mule thing is way over engineered and totally unnecessary.

93 posted on 08/13/2022 9:20:06 PM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Yeah, they could all give 100,000 individuals a watermelon Jolly Rancher to fabricate and deposit one extra phony ballot, along with their own.

Absolutely no need to “over-engineer” the whole thing.

Jeezus.

94 posted on 08/13/2022 9:26:07 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (“There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach,” said one woman.)
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To: kabar

semimojo is an Open and Notorious FR vote fraud denier. You’ll never convince him of anything. He’s just here to troll about it.


95 posted on 08/13/2022 9:27:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: semimojo; kabar; goodnesswins
This whole mule thing is way over engineered and totally unnecessary.

"And yet they did it..." - to paraphrase Galileo Galilei

96 posted on 08/13/2022 9:29:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1; kabar
On May 9th 2022, True the Vote posted this video: Pull the Ripcord. Three months later still nothing.

If you had watched a second of today's presentation, you'd know that Stacey Abrams and Marc Elias have spun up the national Democrat Lawfare Machine against True The Vote.

But you're only here to scoff.

97 posted on 08/13/2022 9:34:12 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kabar
I couldn't figure why my Obama 2008 Vote Fraud tool showed that 2 northeastern Pennsylvania counties had pumped-up vote totals for 2020, without a central directing county/city that I normally see with the tool.

Until I realized that the two counties butted directly against a notorious vote-rigging county in New Jersey.

NJ sent their people across the state border to "help" with the "vote".

98 posted on 08/13/2022 9:39:37 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: TChad; kabar
My other main point in this thread is that if the mule hypothesis in 2000 Mules is correct, by now there should have been many confirmations of that, with plenty of mules and stash houses identified.

This point was addressed in today's video.

Stacey Abrams and Marc Elias have initiated lawfare against True The Vote.

That means that all the Democrat scum have to do is drag TTV into a friendly stooge-judge's venue for an easy beat-down - right during the run-up to the next rigged "election".

99 posted on 08/13/2022 9:43:43 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: TChad

Again, you seem to be fixated on the distance factor. First, Dinesh is not the expert. He was the filmmaker. TTV has the experts.

Let’s assume for the sake of argument that 100 feet is the number. The other variables that went into identifying the mules are dispositive for me. The distance is just one factor.

Did you watch TTV today? Do you grasp the legal issues associated with revealing the identities of the NGOs and mules? One mule has come forward and TTV is working with the police in various counties like Yuma and Racine. Englebrecht said that since 2010 there has not been one day that she has not been in court. At one point five government agencies were investigating her re her personal and business activities. I first met Catherine at CPAC in 2010 where we both had booths. I have the highest respect for her integrity and patriotism. She is not a liar or a fool. I trust her judgment and competence.

I have no knowledge of who you are, but I can say unequivocally and without reservation that Trump and the American people are very lucky to have TTV on their side.


100 posted on 08/13/2022 9:53:49 PM PDT by kabar
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