Posted on 04/30/2022 5:03:24 AM PDT by C19fan
Whatever happened, if you asked 100 women shortly after meeting them if they were interested in dinner and the horizontal cha cha afterwards, 90 might slap you, but the other 10 might rock your world...
I guess that approach has gone out the door now.
Or a movie...
I am failing to see the difference in this and outright prostitution.
The only difference is that I pay a prostitute not for sex, but to leave, and not take half my stuff with her.
They were surprised that the people who had sex the most frequently were the people who had all 3 of these characteristics: married, claimed to be Christian, and attended church regularly. LOL
By the way, these were the same people who reported being happier with their sex lives, and also the women who reported attaining the Big O the most frequently. LOL
There's the worldly way of doing things, and there's God's way.
I’d suggest England Dan and John Ford Coley.
I’d suggest that would, at any time, matter on who you—and the women—are.
I grew up in a time when the traditional date did not involve sex. Not in the getting to know each other phase, which took more than a few dates.
And now the traditional date does involve sex. Initiated by the man of course. Initiated by the woman, not traditional.
In FR tradition, I did not read the article to learn about other permutations.
Well said. Sex outside marriage has become normalized, and that is to the detriment of all.
Women hold out for something more than sex. While they’re spending quality time with you they can always step out with their married boyfriends.
Hang out, do whatever, be unstructured. The wife and I never went out on a single “date”, that whole structure was just not us. Sometimes we go out to dinner with plans after and giggle “is this a date, are we actually dating now?”
Hardly. As stated, they are lower than beta. Often described as “black pilled” or maybe even in some cases borderline Aspergers Syndrome candidates.
Wait, you get sex on a mere date?
It is topics like this that make me miss Chateau Hartiste!
I remember going to a nightclub way back when, and I could not get a gal to dance. I probably asked 3 or 4 women who all turned me down. I got angry and frustrated, and just began asking nearly any girl. No dice. Now, I don't know what kind of club that was, or what type of people were there for, or if it was even primarily for dancing. No idea. But I was sick of getting shot down, and I know many guys who never even progressed past the getting shot down phase and just gave up. Good men who had no knack for it, or desire to be persistent.
As for myself, I wasn't unattractive by accounts, I suspect was what gals back then described as a "nice" guy. I never pushed myself on anyone, I treated them with respect, and if someone said no in any fashion, that was that.
But I never had luck at being a "ladies man". And I would see guys who I knew were a-holes getting women to date and dance all the time. I never understood it, and still don't. In the course of my life, I have discovered (and been told) that every emotion shows clearly on my face, so perhaps I was unknowingly transmitting just how uncomfortable the process was, and they picked up on it. Or it might have been bad breath. I don't know.
I met my wife where we worked so many years ago, and we were introduced by an elderly patient with one foot in two worlds. (my wife had been taking care of of her, and she late told me that the skinny little 88 year old lady had been trying to set her up with any human of the male persuasion who passed through her room!)
My wife asked me out first.
I just don't understand dating, never did, and hated the concept. I can't conceive of how unimaginably weird and byzantine it must be today.
Women complain that all men want is sex. They give it to them, and when they bolt, they complain that there aren’t any good men left. The truth is men won’t commit to women who are easy. In relationships these days, no one is honest and everyone loses.
Laz has been trying to be a traditional gentleman but I’ve been telling him that texting “DTF?” doesn’t mean “Date This Friday?”
“I’d suggest to you that back in the day when we had a much healthier culture, far fewer than a third of “dates” ended with the guy initiating sex.”
A kiss on the cheek and a warm, “I had a good time, may I see you again?” was pretty much it. And even on the rare occasion when I was invited in for a “nightcap”, unless the date was going in the direction of a night of debauchery, I would usually turn the invitation down.
In my kids fraternity, when they hosted parties, every frat member had to sign a pledge that they will behave themselves as gentlemen over the course of the evening and that any frat member who may hook up had to introduce the girl to the frat leadership to ensure neither were trashed and both understood what they were about to engage in.
More than once, my kid, who was frat president presented to frat leadership a recommendation to remove someone from the frat for ungentlemanly behavior.
Why does it have to refer to “sex!” I can understand “romantic intentions” but not sex. Men who try sex at the start are shown the door!
Why would a guy ever get married when he can “get the milk for free”?
Channeling Charlie Harper (Sheen)? Ha.
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