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My take? Tanks are obsolete. Marines are already getting rid of them. We've learned from Somalia that helicopters are vulnerable as well. Really we can use jeeps/humvees to transport troops to battle then they will dismount and fight as infantry.
1 posted on 04/16/2022 10:56:11 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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The US Army had 20 years of fighting in Afghanistan ending up in being chased out by the Taliban and they didn't learn any lessons from that?
They are not going to “learn lessons” from someone else’s war?
Gimme a bloody break.
2 posted on 04/16/2022 11:01:09 AM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To make it realistic they make sure it is “one shot, one general”, just like in the Ukraine. Lol


3 posted on 04/16/2022 11:02:17 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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I agree that tanks are so...yesterday. I would not get rid of helicopters.


4 posted on 04/16/2022 11:06:27 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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When are we getting Ironman suits for soldiers?


5 posted on 04/16/2022 11:08:21 AM PDT by Bayard
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6 posted on 04/16/2022 11:08:34 AM PDT by sauropod (So may we start? It's time to start. High time to start.)
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I hope they are learning to lose the woke crap.


7 posted on 04/16/2022 11:08:43 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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A hot area of R&D would be anti missile missiles - protection against missile attacks of all sizes and speeds.


8 posted on 04/16/2022 11:09:28 AM PDT by libh8er
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I find it humorous that we are supposedly learning a lesson about war from a rag tag group of “combatants” that are using our equipment to fight a competitor for the local oil and gas reserves along with the steel factories that they really want, thus won’t destroy, so we can learn to protect ourselves from a threat that will not be walking on US soil until it cools off.

wy69


9 posted on 04/16/2022 11:11:07 AM PDT by whitney69
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Not only is armor obsolete against a technologically sophisticated opponent, but stealthy drones and stealthy missiles have made surface naval combatants obsolete as well. Yet many soldiers and sailors will die before today’s “battleship admirals” and “hidebound generals” come to understand the new realities.


11 posted on 04/16/2022 11:15:13 AM PDT by allendale
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I’m confused. They are training the soldiers to listen to enemy propaganda and ignore it while watching the enemy use standoff weapons to destroy a city?

I guess the D.o D. forgot about Tokyo Rose and now has to develop a new training strategy to overcome battlefield propaganda.


15 posted on 04/16/2022 11:18:05 AM PDT by shotgun
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Training on dying their hair pink?


16 posted on 04/16/2022 11:18:58 AM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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Yep, just bring back WW2 era deuce and a halfs to move the infantry forward then let them fight with small arms. What we are seeing in the performance or lack of in the Rus army is what happens when soldiers are not trained to think for themselves and to take the initiative, but to wait for orders; are not confident in their leaders; do not maintain their equipment; and there is a complete absence of a core of professional NCOs. Also that tanks and infantry fight as a team, without infantry support tanks are especially vulnerable in towns and wooded areas. However, I do not think the day of the tank is over.

The Rus army wasn’t trained to fight, but merely to go through the steps to perform good enough in a pre-planned exercise to look like they were competent and combat ready.

I recommend reading former USAEUR commander LTG (ret) Mark Hertling’s article comparing the Russian and Ukrainian armies. One thing I got from it, is that the old Soviet army was probably as bad as the current Russian army and that it may have not been the well trained force as we gave them credit to be back during my two tours in Germany with the 3d Armored Division, “Spearhead”.

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18 posted on 04/16/2022 11:26:45 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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One of Pootey-Poot’s mistakes (among many) was to give the US (et Al) a ringside seat for a display of how combat effective (or not) his equipment is, as well as how effective the Ukrainians have been in defeating his hardware.


20 posted on 04/16/2022 11:27:43 AM PDT by Paal Gulli
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Totally agree. Mineraturized/shoulder fired missles are capable of destroying tanks, helicopters, ground attack aircraft, radar sights/SAM sights and even ships at sea. Anything within their admittedly limited range. US ground attack aircraft can still hit targets using standoff smart munitions. But Russians rely on cheaper dumb bombs so must fly lower to hit specific targets making them vulnerable to these weapons. They make whole weapon systems now untenable if not obsolete.


22 posted on 04/16/2022 11:32:45 AM PDT by Rowdyone (Vigilence)
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So. War gaming using MSM and social media as a force. The ultimate win? The side/force that can shut down the internet entirely.


23 posted on 04/16/2022 11:33:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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according to the article, they’re focusing on twitter wars instead of tank-killer drones and manpads ...


30 posted on 04/16/2022 11:41:20 AM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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Gen. Milley needs to double down on Woke training or the American Military might end up giving the enemy a hang nail.


33 posted on 04/16/2022 11:47:07 AM PDT by chopperk
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“My take? Tanks are obsolete.”

Why stop at tanks? Planes get shot down and ships are sunk. Sucks to be one of ‘the little people’. Almost like it’s not worth it to fight a war -unless you’re a dictator or the Big Guy (or a paid internet troll).


34 posted on 04/16/2022 11:49:35 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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You mean like always? We’re always looking at the current scuffle to figure out how to train for the next.


35 posted on 04/16/2022 11:49:46 AM PDT by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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Deployed to Irwin with the 101st and the 5th ID multiple times. Ran a jammer. I LOVED screwing with comms on a daily basis.


39 posted on 04/16/2022 11:59:20 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (GoFundMe is a Democrat Scam)
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