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A Man Drowned. Six Weeks Later, He Was Still Testing Positive For COVID
https://www.iflscience.com ^ | FEBRUARY 17, 2022 | Katy Spalding

Posted on 02/17/2022 10:25:55 AM PST by Red Badger

Last September, in the Italian seaside province of Chieti, a 41-year-old Ukrainian man and his friend went for a dip in the sea. Sixteen hours later, he was dead from drowning. A sad tale, but no medical mystery. Except for the fact that, for nearly six full weeks after his death, his body tested positive no fewer than 28 times for COVID-19 – a discovery that the researchers involved say is of “fundamental importance for pathologists.”

Even weirder is the fact that, before death, the man had been “completely asymptomatic,” the team wrote in a study now published in the BMC Journal of Medical Case Reports, and is likely to have had a pretty low viral load when he died.

This “reflect[s] the importance of postmortem swabs in all autopsy cases, and not only in potential [COVID-19]-related death,” the report notes – and shows that pathologists should test for the presence of COVID “a long time after the moment of death, even if a low initial viral load was assessed.”

Although his death was confirmed to be from drowning, Italian guidelines required that a COVID test be performed regardless. Once he had been tested and an autopsy had been carried out, the body was moved to the local morgue, where it was stored in a sealed and disinfected waterproof bag at a cool 4 °C (39 °F).

So far, so standard – but a delay in receiving burial authorizations meant the body would stay there a little longer than expected. Forty one days, to be exact.

“Twenty-eight nasopharyngeal swabs were performed on the corpse” during that time, the case report explains, and “always … by the same team, adequately prepared and with standardized procedures as per international guidelines and established protocols.” That’s the same type of COVID test you’re used to having: a long swab straight up the nose – although hopefully with less sneezing in this case.

Every single test came back positive – the team even retested each of them with a reagent kit from another supplier, just to be sure.

And not only were the COVID viral particles detectable for nearly six weeks after death, but by the end of the testing period they were the only detectable particles. See, when researchers test for COVID, they can also run a control test at the same time to verify that test results really are coming from the samples they want. They do this by testing for human cellular RNA which get swept up with the viral particles when a swab is taken – if no human RNA is found, then it probably didn’t come out of a human nose.

But by the time 41 days had passed, these tests weren’t picking up human RNA anymore. The COVID tests were still coming up positive, but the human cells had become undetectable.

This is more than just a mildly morbid curiosity: the case report has real implications for how corpses are treated in the age of COVID. As the study authors point out, while we have a lot of good research about the behavior of the virus in living bodies and in the environment, “there is a lack of data on virus persistency on dead bodies and on the risk of contagion from cadavers.” That’s a problem, as “execution of … autopsies puts various categories of workers (pathologists, technicians, and so on) in contact with a possible source of biological risk, with implications not only from a health point of view but also from a medicolegal one.”

Although most COVID transmission occurs due to large droplet respiration, that’s not the only possible vector: “transmission via contact with contaminated body excretions, air, and fecal–oral route has also been suggested,” the report notes. While no scientifically-verified data yet has surfaced of the living being infected by the dead, at least one study has shown that corpses can stay infectious for up to 35 hours after death – important information for those tasked with the care and preparation of bodies before burial or cremation.

While the authors note that their study was by its nature limited – ethics committees tend to look unfavorably on efforts to proactively recruit people for post-mortem studies – they hope that their findings will spur future research. And as for the Ukrainian man – his burial authorization came through in the end, which, along with what the authors describe as “the putrefactive state of the body,” finally brought an end to the study.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; History; Weird Stuff
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1 posted on 02/17/2022 10:25:55 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Scratch H2O off the list of possible treatments.


2 posted on 02/17/2022 10:27:07 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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And he’s still voting Democrat........................


3 posted on 02/17/2022 10:27:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Just proves the tests are designed to generate false positives.

“Asymptomatic” = False Positive


4 posted on 02/17/2022 10:28:44 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Communism is not love. Communism is a hammer which we use to crush the enemy." ― Mao Zedong [FJB])
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To: Red Badger

He must have really good insurance, if they are still paying for tests after he died. How is his cholesterol?


5 posted on 02/17/2022 10:28:48 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Red Badger

I’ll be sure to avoid six-week corpses.


6 posted on 02/17/2022 10:30:36 AM PST by HartleyMBaldwin
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To: nickcarraway

At 39°F? SOLID!.......................


7 posted on 02/17/2022 10:32:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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8 posted on 02/17/2022 10:32:40 AM PST by PMAS (Vote with your wallets, there are 80 million of us - No China made, No Amazon)
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To: Red Badger

Correct me if wrong, but doesn’t death sorta shut down the immune system?


9 posted on 02/17/2022 10:34:10 AM PST by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: Red Badger

Considering the test are totally unreliable be interesting to know if all of the test kits came from the same lot.

Also seems weird you’d perform 28 tests over the period of ~41 days on a corpse? What’s the point after the first one.

Also makes you wonder if the 28 positive test results are included in the Italian new cases!!! I’m sure here in the US every positive test is considered a new case regardless how many times a person is tested over the course of the infection.


10 posted on 02/17/2022 10:35:02 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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11 posted on 02/17/2022 10:35:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
They've always said the tests were unreliable. I don't understand why people say "I tested positive (or negative.)"

So what!? It means nothing! Nothing!
12 posted on 02/17/2022 10:36:38 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper)
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To: Red Badger

Thats some strong dose he had ...


13 posted on 02/17/2022 10:38:06 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Red Badger
And after each positive test does the number of Covid deaths increase by one?
14 posted on 02/17/2022 10:40:16 AM PST by immadashell (New Planned Parenthood slogan: Black Babies’ Lives Don't Matter!c)
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Well of course!...................


15 posted on 02/17/2022 10:41:41 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

If the man can vote, he can test positive for Covid.


16 posted on 02/17/2022 10:42:50 AM PST by Michael.SF. (Never do anything illegal, when you are doing something illegal. )
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To: \/\/ayne

Tested? Not sure I understand why there are lines of cars at local testing stations waiting to get swabbed. Just so they can get the T-shirt? I want one that says:

“I SURVIVED BRANDONS WINTER OF SUFFERING AND DEATH 2022!”


17 posted on 02/17/2022 10:51:19 AM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: Red Badger

Then shouldn’t you be putting a mask on his corpse?


18 posted on 02/17/2022 10:54:02 AM PST by lowbridge
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To: rktman

H20 might not work, but H202 kills all viruses dead.


19 posted on 02/17/2022 11:01:04 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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To: nickcarraway

I think they need to do a complete Lipid Panel on him, and check his a1C numbers.


20 posted on 02/17/2022 11:34:37 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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