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A Weird Paper Tests The Limits of Science by Claiming Octopuses Came From Space
https://www.sciencealert.com ^ | 28 DECEMBER 2021 | MIKE MCRAE

Posted on 12/29/2021 5:57:37 AM PST by Red Badger

A summary of decades of research on a rather 'out-there' idea involving viruses from space raises questions on just how scientific we can be when it comes to speculating on the history of life on Earth.

It's easy to throw around words like crackpot, rogue, and maverick in describing the scientific fringe, but then papers like this one, from 2018, come along and leave us blinking owlishly, unsure of where to even begin.

A total of 33 names were listed as authors on this review, which was published by Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology back in August 2018. The journal is peer reviewed and fairly well cited. So it's not exactly small, or a niche pay-for-publish source.

Science writer Stephen Fleischfresser goes into depth on the background of two of the better known scientists involved: Edward Steele and Chandra Wickramasinghe. It's well worth a read.

For a tl;dr version, Steele is an immunologist who has a fringe reputation for his views on evolution that relies on acquiring gene changes determined by the influence of the environment rather than random mutations, in what he calls meta-Lamarckism.

Wickramasinghe, on the other hand, has had a somewhat less controversial career, recognized for empirically confirming Sir Fred Hoyle's hypothesis describing the production of complex carbon molecules on interstellar dust.

Wickramasinghe and Hoyle also happened to be responsible for another space biology thesis. Only this one is based on more than just the origins of organic chemistry.

The Hoyle Wickramasinghe (H-W) thesis of Cometary (Cosmic) Biology makes the rather simple claim that the direction of evolution has been significantly affected by biochemistry that didn't start on our planet.

In Wickramasinghe's own words, "Comets are the carriers and distributors of life in the cosmos, and life on Earth arose and developed as a result of cometary inputs."

Those inputs, Wickramasinghe argued, aren't limited to a generous sprinkling of space-baked amino acids, either.

Rather, they include viruses that insert themselves into organisms, pushing their evolution into whole new directions.

The report, titled "Cause of Cambrian Explosion – Terrestrial or Cosmic?", pulls on existing research to conclude that a rain of extra-terrestrial retroviruses played a key role in the diversification of life in our oceans roughly half a billion years ago.

"Thus retroviruses and other viruses hypothesized to be liberated in cometary debris trails both can potentially add new DNA sequences to terrestrial genomes and drive further mutagenic change within somatic and germline genomes," the authors wrote.

Let that sink in for a moment. And take a deep breath before continuing, because that was the tame part.

It was during this period that a group of mollusks known as cephalopods first stretched out their tentacles from beneath their shells, branching into a stunning array of sizes and shapes in what seemed like a remarkably short time frame.

The genetics of these organisms, which today include octopuses, squid, and cuttlefish, are as weird as the animals themselves, due in part to their ability to edit their DNA on the fly.

The authors of the paper make the rather audacious claim that these genetic oddities might be a sign of life from space.

Not of space viruses this time, but the arrival of whole genomes frozen in stasis before thawing out in our tepid waters.

"Thus the possibility that cryopreserved squid and/or octopus eggs, arrived in icy bolides several hundred million years ago should not be discounted," they wrote.

In his review of the paper, medical researcher Keith Baverstock from the University of Eastern Finland conceded that there's a lot of evidence that plausibly aligns with the H-W thesis, such as the curious timeline of the appearance of viruses.

But that's just not how science advances.

"I believe this paper justifies skepticism of the scientific value of stand alone theories of the origin of life," Baverstock argued at the time.

"The weight of plausible, but non-definitive, evidence, great though that might be, is not the point."

While the idea is as novel and exciting as it is provocative, nothing in the summary helps us better understand the history of life on Earth any better than existing conjectures, adding little of value to our model of evolution.

Still, with solid caveats in place, maybe science can cope with a generous dose of crazy every now and then.

Journal editor Denis Noble concedes that 'further research is needed', which is a bit of an understatement.

But given the developments regarding space-based organic chemistry in recent years, there's room for discussion.

"As space chemistry and biology grows in importance it is appropriate for a journal devoted to the interface between physics and biology to encourage the debates," said Noble.

"In the future, the ideas will surely become testable."

Just in case those tests confirm speculations, we recommend being well prepared for the return of our cephalopod overlords. Who knows when they'll want those eggs back?

This research was published in Progress in Biophysics and Molecular Biology.

A version of this article was first published in August 2018.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abiogenesis; astronomy; cephalopods; crevo; cryptobiology; edwardsteele; fredhoyle; fringe; godsgravesglyphs; ohsomysteriouso; panspermia; science; scientism; sirfredhoyle; wickramasinghe; xplanets
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To: Monkey Face

It sounds like another letter is called for! Can you put a blanket at the base of the door?


261 posted on 01/02/2022 4:10:09 PM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: pax_et_bonum
the baby octopus was born knowing the lock combination.

If it becomes a problem get a new lock.

262 posted on 01/02/2022 4:19:51 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: bk1000
These elite “scientists” cannot acknowledge creation.

Assuming the human race advances into the great void, this will be a testable hypothesis because comet tails will be studied in depth by either folks landing on them or robots landing on them.

263 posted on 01/02/2022 4:23:05 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Tax-chick

I have a “draft dodger” that I made while I was still in Henderson. It wasn’t needed in Happy Valley, and I almost donated it but then changed my mind. It’s an odd thing, so it didn’t pack well, and it was found early on.

As I left for church this morning, I slid the rag entry rug under the door which helped to block the worst of the draft, and locking the door made a fairly good seal to the weather stripping, but as long as I’m inside, I can put the “draft dodger” in his place. It helps. Of course, I still have to keep the windows open a crack, but I do that no matter where I live. I don’t like stale air.

And yes, a letter will be written because of the door and the bedroom light switch, but I also forgot to add that I need two large burner plates for the stove. Both of them have “something green” splashed on them and it won’t come off with the cleaner I tried. I won’t use the burners as long as they’re like that, so I want replacements. Then, hopefully, I can begin to feel at home.


264 posted on 01/02/2022 4:28:33 PM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Sawdring; bk1000; pax_et_bonum

Welcome to the Undead Thread! It’s like Hotel California — You can check out, but you can never leave!

‘Face

;o]


265 posted on 01/02/2022 4:30:02 PM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Tax-chick; Rebelbase; Monkey Face; null and void; Tunehead54; zzeeman; ArGee

Hey! I just had an interesting thought!

Total presence breaks on the univocal predication of the exterior absolute the absolute existent (of that of which it is not possible to univocally predicate an outside, while the equivocal predication of the outside of the absolute exterior is possible of that of which the reality so predicated is not the reality, viz., of the dark/of the self, the identity of which is not outside the absolute identity of the outside, which is to say that the equivocal predication of identity is possible of the self-identity which is not identity, while identity is univocally predicated of the limit to the darkness, of the limit of the reality of the self). This is the real exteriority of the absolute outside: the reality of the absolutely unconditioned absolute outside univocally predicated of the dark: the light univocally predicated of the darkness: the shining of the light univocally predicated of the limit of the darkness: actuality univocally predicated of the other of self-identity: existence univocally predicated of the absolutely unconditioned other of the self. The precision of the shining of the light breaking the dark is the other-identity of the light. The precision of the absolutely minimum transcendence of the dark is the light itself/the absolutely unconditioned exteriority of existence for the first time/the absolutely facial identity of existence/the proportion of the new creation sans depth/the light itself ex nihilo: the dark itself univocally identified, i.e., not self-identity identity itself equivocally, not the dark itself equivocally, in “self-alienation,” not “self-identity, itself in self-alienation” “released” in and by “otherness,” and “actual other,” “itself,” not the abysmal inversion of the light, the reality of the darkness equivocally, absolute identity equivocally predicated of the self/selfhood equivocally predicated of the dark (the reality of this darkness the other-self-covering of identity which is the identification person-self).

Does anyone disagree?


266 posted on 01/02/2022 4:43:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Lazamataz

Maybe.


267 posted on 01/02/2022 4:57:43 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Lazamataz

That is an oratorical sonorosity which is too plienastic to be expediously assimilated.

;o]


268 posted on 01/02/2022 5:39:57 PM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Lazamataz

Nailed it!


269 posted on 01/02/2022 6:23:35 PM PST by null and void (Unvaccinated=control group, vaccinated=controlLED group...)
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To: Tax-chick

Up and ready to go wash clothes. It’s 17°. The low is yet to hit.


270 posted on 01/03/2022 1:50:40 AM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Monkey Face

Unnngh.


271 posted on 01/03/2022 2:34:17 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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272 posted on 01/03/2022 2:35:22 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Monkey Face

I bet yer gud in Skrable.


273 posted on 01/03/2022 3:03:23 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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To: Tax-chick

Exactly.


274 posted on 01/03/2022 3:09:14 AM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Monkey Face

More and more rain here, but the temperature hasn’t dropped yet.


275 posted on 01/03/2022 3:19:17 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick

Tiny floof!

Good morning! I hope you slept well.

The laundry is done. Having the two space heaters on overnight has helped. If the clouds break today the sun will warm the living room a little, but the bathroom may need the space heater again tonight.

Now it’s at 14°. Glad I’m in here! *shiver*


276 posted on 01/03/2022 3:24:33 AM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Lazamataz

I used to was. Not so much now because all my Skrabel partners left home for one reason or another!


277 posted on 01/03/2022 3:25:34 AM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Monkey Face

Been better. I’m glad you got the wash done and didn’t freeze. Love this Global Warming, eh?


278 posted on 01/03/2022 3:54:25 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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To: Tax-chick

Nah. Just reminds me of the colder places I’ve lived — like Alaska, shores of Lake Michigan, SD, MO, Germany... If I have what I need to stay warm, I’ll be OK. The cold has always gone to my bones, anyway, the accident so long ago.

I just don’t have to go out in it is all!

I need to go hang the clothes, but I think this is a day when once again, not much will get done besides the laundry.


279 posted on 01/03/2022 4:01:18 AM PST by Monkey Face (In the end, if you have not chosen Jesus Christ it will not matter what you have chosen.Neal Maxwell)
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To: Monkey Face

If all this rain turns to ice, we’re not ready for it: not enough milk!


280 posted on 01/03/2022 4:15:58 AM PST by Tax-chick (Nature, art, silence, simplicity, peace. And fungi.)
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