To: Admin Moderator

141 posted on 10/18/2021 10:08:59 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)

Maybe Bagster World operates like Alice in Wonderland where pretend and reality are interchangeable. Many suspect that’s the case.

And those many believe the vax is safe and effective.

So why would anybody believe anything they say or think?

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142 posted on 10/18/2021 10:13:51 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)

"Those who live in other countries could care less about Fauci and the CDC"

Yes, I am sure that they could.

143 posted on 10/18/2021 10:16:49 PM PDT by Bikkuri ("Anyone who trusts this government hasn't been paying attention." <Hat tip to DJ Macwow>)

Of course, you’ll hang on every word spouted by every wackjob article posted on the Liberty Daily and regurgitate it unquestionably
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Like you do with the CDC. They lie. They have been caught lying.

I wonder just how many people from DU made accounts on free republic.

144 posted on 10/18/2021 10:17:44 PM PDT by roving

Point-counterpoint. I cite the dirty dozen. She cites the exact same dirty dozen.

Sounds like you'r quoting Peter Hotez? You know, the "dirty dozen" who -- *gasp* -- made $36 million last year?

As compared to ~$40 Billion *each* for Pfizer and Moderna?

The same "dirty dozen" who are linked to "right wing extremists" who thought Trump won the election? (according to Hotez)? The same sources who are getting influence from (I'm not kidding, he really published this in Nature) "Russia" (more collusion, no doubt. These leftist vermin have NO imagination).

1. Vaccines doses have been administered in the hundreds of millions world wide. The only answer those against the vaccine for COvID has is that some day everyone vaccinated will drop dead.

No, adverse events short of death make a pretty good case too. Which is why Iceland, Norway, Denmark, and one other Scandahoovian country cut back or banned the jabs for men 18-30.

The latest is the insane theory that vaccination causes AIDS. However, it does not, there is no plethora of new septicemias or unexplained and opportunistic infections. With the numbers they quote, by now opportunistic infections should be rife in all ICUs world wide — they are not. What they fail to understand is that AIDS was identified with the new surge of things like Kaposis Sarcoma and PCP PNA — we are not seeing this by any stretch. So it is diversion and fallacy

Is it *the* AIDS, or *an* AIDS -- explanations differ between ADE, original antigenic sin, dropoff of antibody effectiveness (see the New England Journal of Medicine article on that upthread), or whatever.

BTW, what is this "super cold" which is catching in Great Britain? You know, after the flu in the US dropped to 1300 cases or whatever, last year?

2. They never speak to the fact that if we accept the 99.8% survivable rate, that this really means is that there is a 1/500 mortality rate — would they get on an airplane with those odds? However even using the most inflated numbers they quote as per percentage of dosages administered — it is infinitesimal as compared to the vaccine injuries (again, even the number they like to trumpet).

Top. Kek.

It's not a 1/500 mortality rate for the entire human race. It's a 1/500 mortality rate for those who catch the coof.

And at that, it's not equally distributed by age or underlying health conditions.

Which means, there really isn't a crisis demanding the jab anyway: your premise has been knocked out from under you.

Now, about those medical error rates and resultant fatalities in the US...200,000 a year or so, and have been going on for a lot longer than COVID. It might save more lives in the long run if you were to focus on those?

3. The fact to the matter is that Breitbart reports that the spikes are in the most unvaccinated areas. Most of my colleagues and myself have not seen any critically ill in the vaccinated.

The truth is seeping out past the Fauci-friendly censorship, so now the pro-jabbers have to cherry-pick and spin.

Or do you not trust the Harvard Prof upthread about no correlation between jab rates and infection? https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7

4. They simply fail to understand the fundamental logic question they want is to blow by — which is that correlation and causation are two different things. Best example of the day is that Colin Powell died of CoVID and was fully vaccinated. What they fail to mention or intentionally sweep under the rug is that Powell also had multiple myeloma, a hematological CA that reduces immune response.

Powell died of "Colin Cancer." But the jabs are being reported more and more as chewing up the immune response.

5. I would love to see any one of the coterie of acolytes for these posters actually demonstrate their clinical experience, their medical training or their basic understanding of biology. They are only able to cut and paste from their favorites (The cardiologist turned epidemiologist, the alien believing FP, and the one who charges $750 to hear her opinions) — but if you question the sources, it is tantamount to blasephmy — but as the saying goes — if you dont know what you stand for, you will fall for everything. The lack of basic understanding of elementary biological principles shine through glaringly in the posts of those who will believe clinically impossible things, but post them anyway.

I got some nice "believing clinical impossibilities" right here.

6. What is most perplexing to me is the insistence of a decade of evidence. We used to be Americans who believed in American ingenuity. We put men and women in space and on the moon in response to challenges. We created the trinity test at the Manhattan Project in a compressed time frame in response to a grave threat. However, this group insists that Americans should be tethered to an artificial timeline to satisfy their fears. Every post is made stating the vaccinated will get their comeuppance quite soon. And yet it does not happen.

The difference is that the Manhattan project was begun after a letter from Einstein, talking about (implicitly) what the Nazis might do with the technology. The scientists at Oak Ridge, Los Alamos, and elsewhere were not getting rich off of it. Unlike the $40 billion for Pfizer and Moderna.

The fact is simply this — one side presents increasingly bizarre statements (graphene, magnetism, parasite eggs, radio markers, 5G issues) that are laughable on the the face. They present rumor and innuendo which is half way around the world before truth and observation puts on its running shoes. They reject the notion that Americans can and will create amazing things based on our heritage, but want to hand tie our best of the best as pharmacy shills, Faucilytes, and right here on this forum, denigrating and insulting name calling (Froctors, assholes, why even bagster fresh off his vacation called me a pussy this evening — calling others mongoloid and subhuman — how this is allowed is beyond me).

Some things are bizarre, some aren't. There are several researchers in different countries apparently verifying the graphene; using different instrumental modalities from each other.l For the parasite eggs, you need a chain-of-custody of the samples; and if the samples are genuine (you know, just like mail in ballots?), then those who endlessly tout the jabs, are the ones who have to explain things. Not everyone who opposes the jabs is required to give credit to every accusation made against the jabs: but for every credible or substantiated claim made, the vax-pushers have to defend both the jabs and their extremist stance.

145 posted on 10/18/2021 10:18:15 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)

I scroll past things I don’t really want to see. Its really simple. Yet here you are.

146 posted on 10/18/2021 10:20:40 PM PDT by roving

To: grey_whiskers

Powell died of "Colin Cancer."

I get it.

147 posted on 10/18/2021 10:30:21 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)

To: gas_dr; bagster

It is typical — she has excoriated you for presenting data with methodology and results because of the conspiracy that the CDC is not trustworthy.

That's ridiculous. He told me to 'splain' and posted a CDC propaganda piece. But at least you are publicly acknowledging your assertion that doubting the CDC is a 'conspiracy'.

But in her list of numerous so called data citations, she includes her own vanities, and the vanities of others. As I pointed out in the post that drew this vanity (which means I am directly over the target as it appears I am living rent free in a certain head), I cite the dirty dozen. She cites the exact same dirty dozen. There is nothing new in this rambling vanity except penumbras and shadows.

You are still changing the subject, attacking the messenger and ignoring the data. Why don't you win 1 million dollars by refuting Steve Kirsch instead? That would be, you know, refuting facts with facts of your own, instead of just knee jerk attacking me.

1. Vaccines doses have been administered in the hundreds of millions world wide. The only answer those against the vaccine for COvID has is that some day everyone vaccinated will drop dead.

Well, you're lying. I've been posting vaccine adverse events including death, strokes, heart attacks, paralysis, neurological damage, blood clots etc. as have doctors treating their patients. Dr. Hoffe documented harm to his 900 vaccinated patients and then published his work giving the newly vaccinated D-dimer tests to demonstrate microclots. Many doctors are providing data about vaccine harm and you lie and say there's just some hazy prediction everyone will 'drop dead.'

You keep sayin hundreds of millions of doses have been administered world wide like that's proof they work or are safe? They don't work and they are not safe.

The latest is the insane theory that vaccination causes AIDS. However, it does not, there is no plethora of new septicemias or unexplained and opportunistic infections. With the numbers they quote, by now opportunistic infections should be rife in all ICUs world wide — they are not. What they fail to understand is that AIDS was identified with the new surge of things like Kaposis Sarcoma and PCP PNA — we are not seeing this by any stretch. So it is diversion and fallacy

Have you refuted Steve Kirsch's data yet? How about Zelenko's What about the valid statistics on vaccine harm, vaccine failure etc. Why are you changing the subject to AIDS when you have never attempted to refute Kirsch, Zelenko, McCullough, Corey, etc.

The numbers are closer to 99.7% and these are comparable to other illnesses. Those who are fragile enough to be high risk need not have been killed as they were by being denied all medications. Dr McCullough and Zelenko have been able to treat high risk patients and have an 85% reduction in hospitalization and death. You and your kind keep quoting the death levels the CDC was able to produce by refusing to treat people until they were too sick to recover and then puttin gthose on Remdesivir and ventilators. The 'death rate' for what is called Covid would be far less if we, you know, treated sick people.

3. The fact to the matter is that Breitbart reports that the spikes are in the most unvaccinated areas. Most of my colleagues and myself have not seen any critically ill in the vaccinated.

You and your fake medical colleagues all live in magical hospitals which have results opposite the real world. You're not going to admit what that is, but I know.

Oh. Oh! TAKE STEVE KIRSCH UP THAT DEBATE POINT!!!! Correlation versus causation! Debate him and win 1 million dollars! I want you to debate Kirsch because you're lying and distorting the truth and if you try to debate your way out of it, you'll lose! That's why the CDC/NIH/Fauci/FDA won't debate anyone on the data. There's data that holds up to standard statistical analysis to prove you wrong. DEBATE KIRSCH! Stop changing the subject and whining - debate Kirsch.

5. I would love to see any one of the coterie of acolytes for these posters actually demonstrate their clinical experience, their medical training or their basic understanding of biology.

What has Fauci's medical degree done for us? How about Birx? The whole slew of doctors abusing the public trust. You mean if I catch them lying I can't say so unless I have 'clinical experience'? Youre a FAKE DOCTOR saying I have to demonstrate my medical training etc.?

Look what you do to those with impeccable credentials? Those who win nobel prizes for treatments, technologies, those who were the treating physician of Presidents, those who spoke before state and federal Senate(s), those who worked for Pfizer for decades and know what they are talking about - until they don't agree with your talking points, at which time, you smear them as 'the dirty dozen'. You're the one trashing credentials, until you demand them.

They are only able to cut and paste from their favorites (The cardiologist turned epidemiologist, the alien believing FP, and the one who charges $750 to hear her opinions) — but if you question the sources, it is tantamount to blasephmy — but as the saying goes — if you dont know what you stand for, you will fall for everything. The lack of basic understanding of elementary biological principles shine through glaringly in the posts of those who will believe clinically impossible things, but post them anyway.

Where's your information to contradict Kirsch, Zelenko, McCullough. Why do you have to resort to complaints about cut-paste or smear people. C'mon, is ad hominem all you have (YES!). You don't have data to prove your points -you have attacks on those whose data you can't refute.

Aw. How pathetic of you. You're pretending that no one is being censored, that everyone has free choice, that there are no mandates, that no one is dying and there are no adverse events. You're pretending that the technology being forced upon us hasn't failed for 16 years straight. You're pretending you're not slave to Wuhan Fauci's dictats. You're pretending that the death rate is similar to Ebola and anyone not wishing to lose their job because they won't have an experimental gene therapy injection that doesn't work is just not an innovative American. You're pretending FAUCI hasn't been caught lying over and over again, and pretending the CDC is trustworthy.

More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | Staff

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

Fauci, HHS Officials Discuss Using New Virus From China To Enforce Universal Vaccines In Footage From Oct. 2019 (6 minute video)
.oann.com ^ | October 8, 2021 | OAN Newsroom

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Please explain why the vaccines aren't working or refute Steve Kirsch or Zelenko's Covid report. DO SOMETHING with data to prove yourself - don't keep cutting and pasting attacks on people and just making trash up.

7. And when all else fails, they try to assign beliefs to us that are untrue. I am not a proponent for mandate — I find them repulsive. I believe people should have the right to choose or not to choose based on their individual liberty.

I never said you are a proponent of mandates because I note there are a few places shills don't mind crossing the line to get credibility. So you and other shills have said you don't believe in the mandates - I mean, who would agree with you if you supported them on FR. Just a token - while you go back and support everything else about the plandemic, including the false portrayal of Covid as 'needing' a 'vaccine' because it's so dangerous. it's a lie you endorse with all your posts when you push the vax - you push the lie that they are needed.

But the right to choose or not to choose does not translate into the right to demand therapies that are equivocal or disproven. They have no right to demand that I do something I believe to be wrong in terms of prescription. While I will not prescribe HCQ and ivermectin because I see no evidence clinically that they work having prescribed them, I am extremely quick to pull the trigger on monoclonals as these produce superior results.

You aren't a doctor. When I post about Ivermectin I'm posting about the obvious, overwhelmingly aggressive of denial of a patient's right to try a drug the FDA has already aproved years ago, infavor of a toxic 'vaccine' with an EUA and unprecendented death count. There simply is no comparison between safe Ivermectin and HCQ, and the clot shots. I never think about what you do or don't prescribe because you're not a real doctor. You're just claiming to be one to deceive FReepers into trusting your judgment as you shove the vax.

You are pretending the entire issue of teh public and many doctors asking for Ivermectin and being criminialized and ridiculed for trying to use it just doesn't exist. You shifted it to what you, in your imaginary doctor job, do with requests for Ivermectin. I'm so glad you're not a real doctor!

The fact is simply this — one side presents increasingly bizarre statements (graphene, magnetism, parasite eggs, radio markers, 5G issues) that are laughable on the the face.

Your list is inaccurate as usual (radio markers?) or I didn't post it. Actually the resesarchers put themselves and their careers on the line to report what they saw under a microscope and they weren't laughing. They were horrified and encourage us to pray, remind us that God wins. Many researchers now report blood cells stacked like coins - a condition called 'rouleaux' (spelling) post 'vaccine' and that is dangerous because the blood cannot function (carry oxygen) in that condition.

They present rumor and innuendo which is half way around the world before truth and observation puts on its running shoes.

I present Dr. Zelenko, Dr. McCullough, Steve Kirsch, Dr. John B., Dr. Hoffe, Dr. Corey etc. They aren't rumor and innuendo. Innuendo is your terrain - you wave them all away as the 'dirty dozen' because you can't refute them.

If you had any data, you would be able to refute Steve Kirsch and take that 1 million dollar prize. But all you are is ad hominem attacks and innuendo.

They reject the notion that Americans can and will create amazing things based on our heritage,

Dr. McCullough, Dr. Zelenko and others are doing just that. The CDC decided there would be no treatments, none at all, until a 'vaccine' was available. They killed countless people by having the hosptials send people home until they needed (deadly) ventilators. But Zelenko, McCullough and others rolled up their sleeves and created treatment protocols the CDC wanted to deny Americans.

...but want to hand tie our best of the best as pharmacy shills, Faucilytes, and right here on this forum, denigrating and insulting name calling (Froctors, assholes, why even bagster fresh off his vacation called me a pussy this evening — calling others mongoloid and subhuman — how this is allowed is beyond me).

You advocate for policies and the fake plandemic. You urge people to turn away from treatments that can save their lives and shove them toward hospitals, even knowing they had already been denied all treatment. You are contributing to hospitalization and death. Don't expect praise from me.

Perhaps they should not raise their voice when they should reinforce their arguments.

Doctor after doctor has presented protocols that work and you pretend they don't. Study after study, success story after success story has proven Ivermectin works, and you lie and say it doesn't. You seem to have placed yourself mentally upon a reviewing platform and you deny all the valid research and success that parades by you, declaring over and over again that there is no evidence. Just like the left's assertions there's no proof the 2020 election was stolen. You never put forth reasonable arguments - you put forth smear tactics and innuendos, Fauci talking points and fantasy descriptions of your supposed magic workplace where all the patient ratios (vax/unvax) are wildly differen tthan the rest of the world.

At the end of the day, we are approaching herd immunity secondary to vaccination and natural infection. There is no question this has been politicized and we even see it internally right here. By this time next year, I believe there will be no further CoVID stories, and life will be back to normal.

You'll be shoving the vax even while the people halt biden's regime with non compliance. You have already harmed so many with yor lies and fake medical degree, you'll never stop doing it now.

In conclusion, even the vaunted FLCCC states the following “The FLCCC Alliance has always maintained that our protocols are a bridge to vaccines and a safety net for those who cannot or have not been vaccinated or are vaccinated and have concerns regarding declining protection against emerging variants. VACCINES HAVE SHOWN EFFICACY IN PREVENTING THE MOST SEVERE OUTCOMES of COVID - 19 AND ARE AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE MULTIMODAL STRATEGY THAT MUST ALSO INCLUDE EARLY TREATMENT”

They saw what has been happening to America's Frontline Doctors and thought they could treat more patients if they were allowed to exist as an organization. Not they, and all other good doctors have stressed that early treatment is important, at a time when the CDC has decreed there will be NO EARLY TREATMENT.

Some doctors have taken that line - have chosen their battles in the hopes of reaching and saving more patients. No one denied they said it. We just focus on FReepers, friends and family who are suffering and dying, people in the news dying young, the lies pouring out about the bioweapons, the research pouring past the gate keepers and we say it ilike it is.

But they will never report that their own sources they quote often also endorse vaccinations.

These are the facts, and they are not in dispute.

Almost everything you said is innuendo opinion and distortion. You seldom if ever do facts. You act like we deny some sources support 'vaccines' when in fact we know those sources have political reasons to do so, and they spend the rest of their time rescuing people.

When will you debate Steve Kirsch? C'mon 1 million dollars could get you out of the basement and back to normal life.

148 posted on 10/18/2021 10:31:51 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)

do you really expect doctors that are taking heat for prescribing “verboten” medicines to jump on board the anti-vax and cut their own throat even faster? get real! look at the colonel who turned on trump and then got a slap on the wrist from his court marshall. what would have happened if he turned on Biden? sheesh

how about dr. zelenko and his calling it the poison death
shot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rkKpN0E—Q&t=268s

149 posted on 10/18/2021 10:37:41 PM PDT by rolling_stone

"There is tons of evidence."

One perfect example, is a whole country (India).
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150 posted on 10/18/2021 10:41:50 PM PDT by Bikkuri ("Anyone who trusts this government hasn't been paying attention." <Hat tip to DJ Macwow>)

Seen on Instapundit tonight:

George Turner {to} TempoNick, Troll-Elect II • 38 minutes ago

You could use a vaccine card with a name of the opposite gender, any name, and tell them you got the shot before you transitioned. I will be the same people who insist on proof of vaccination will run for the hills because they won’t risk violating one of the other stupid norms they just made up.

151 posted on 10/18/2021 10:46:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)

I hoped my reference to the Manhattan Project would give you the urgency of defeating this virus. However, you imagination drifted to nuclear filled vax needles and a nightmare you don’t want to have. Although, It would be funny if you did. You might also dream of me in a B-52 raining nuclear charged vax needles down like rain all over the planet. Yikes!

152 posted on 10/18/2021 10:47:26 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)

Just to prove your point on how superior the new vaccines are, I thought I would throw in a couple of bonus provinces in India where one uses vaccines and the other uses Ivermectin. I'm glad I got to help you out in proving to everybody how blessed we are to have these new miracle vaccines!

Here we have Kerala province (population 35 million) that banned Ivermectin and relies on vaccines.

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Here we have Dehli province (population 31 million) that uses Ivermectin. I got to hand it to you, you are very knowledgible about modern vaccines!

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153 posted on 10/18/2021 10:57:29 PM PDT by Karl Spooner

To: gas_dr; ransomnote

Bro. The ONE time you actually took your time on a detailed post and appeared to have proof-read it, got the doctor worshippers to praise you for being 'brilliant', and Ransnomnote goes ahead and nukes it.

You just can't win, Gassie.

154 posted on 10/18/2021 11:00:45 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)

To: Pelham; Ouderkirk

“We are constantly being told there is one, and only one avenue of escape via the mRNA stuff. We know this is patently false.”

You blundered into the truth there. By accident anyway.

Only two of the vaccines are based on mRNA.

There’s also an adenovector vaccine.

There’s protein subunit vaccine.
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That’s so cute when your kind refer to a ‘protein subunit’ vaccine, instead of stating what it really is - an injection of purified spike proteins.

The Adenovector vaccine(s) (there are at least two) are failures and have hideous track records. The attenuated virus versions were less than 60% out of the gate and began falling fast.

This whole scam was based on the lie that it was a ‘novel’ virus and we needed a vaccine. It’s not novel. Many have immunity to it - the fake experimental damaging experimental ‘vaccines’ were never needed.

There’s no valid Covid test. There’s no Delta test. Delta is actually patients with vaccine harm. The whole thing is a house of cards build on treasonous lies.

155 posted on 10/18/2021 11:06:03 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)

To: adorno; ransomnote

Emergency use did not have the normal waiting times of 10 years, or even 5 years. How about asking how many lives might have been saved because of the emergency development of the vaccines? I don't know that anybody can provide an exact number or a real approximation, but, it's probably in the millions worldwide.
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First how about not asserting that the vaccines are perfectly safe long term, when obviously that can not be known.

And how about letting those people who are concerned about long term safety determine with their doctor whether or not to accept this experimental treatment?

How about allowing people to avoid being a human guinea pig, instead of violating the Nuremberg Principles and the law-since these principles were incorporated into the US Code?

The procedures followed defy the normal practices for intelligent management of a pandemic. And there is plenty of data that would lead any thinking person to question these actions.

Not the least of which is that for the majority of people under age 50-there is no need for these drastic measures.

Since there is no accurate test for Covid, it is impossible to know whether any one was actually “saved” from anything. But there is plenty to show that people have been harmed-not just from vaccine reactions, but from the total destruction of economies world wide, and other mental health issues exacerbated by the lock-downs.

156 posted on 10/18/2021 11:31:57 PM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)

it’s not that hard, my friend - death rates reflect ‘effectiveness’ and disability rates reflect ‘safety’.

If the vaccine wasn’t ‘safe’, and was adversely affecting a large amount of working age people, there would be noticeable increases in social security disability claims. SSDC’s are medically documented. I linked to more than 10 years’ history including up to Q4 2021. Look for yourself - no significant increases

If the vaccine wasn’t ‘effective’ then the death rate would revert to the days of Mar 2020 mortality rate of 25% with zero protection, because Delta sure hasn’t gotten any weaker. The antibodies wane over time but so does natural immunity to this specific virus. There are risks to the vaccine but there are also risks to infection.Monoclonals are great, but for the sake of this one argument, prevention is better than a pound of cure. (but hands off kids)

157 posted on 10/18/2021 11:32:51 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017) )

If the vaccine wasn’t ‘effective’ then the death rate would revert to the days of Mar 2020 mortality rate of 25% with zero protection, because Delta sure hasn’t gotten any weaker.

25% mortality rate?

Link please, and specific time frame and number of cases?

And prove the testing methodology gave valid results.

The antibodies wane over time but so does natural immunity to this specific virus.

Asserted, as the left loves to say, without evidence.

158 posted on 10/18/2021 11:43:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)

My wife and I both had the vax months ago, and we had no ill effects. But, I do know someone who took Ibuprofen and died. So, you better stay away from that stuff.

159 posted on 10/18/2021 11:45:57 PM PDT by eastexsteve

To: grey_whiskers; blueplum

Asserted, as the left loves to say, without evidence.

[They] do that a lot.

160 posted on 10/18/2021 11:49:29 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)

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