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To those who still pretend that the 'Covid Vaccine' is 'safe and effective', where's your evidence? Please refute Steve Kirch's report and provide 10 years of data.
10/18/2021 | vanity

Posted on 10/18/2021 5:27:19 PM PDT by ransomnote

ransomnote: Below, I posted my response to one of countless posts to me stating that I post Covid content without merit in order to push 'an agenda'. The name of the freeper this time is irrelevant because other have said the same thing. 

Freeper: This is a tour d’force of maybes, ifs and allegations that uses one theoretical allegation to build on the next.

You and others on FR working to keep the Plandemic alive rely on inuendo and allegations. To support the 'narrative', your content supports an entire fabric of lies.

* You imply 'Covid' is far more deadly than it is. Even the CDC admitted in May that 94% of "Covid" deaths are persons with an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things). It's not just the US that has ridiculously inflated 'Covid' death tolls.

Lisbon Court Rules Only 0.9% Of ‘Verified Cases’ Died Of COVID, Numbering 152, Not 17,000 As Claimed
greatgameindia.com ^ 

* You insist there are no treatments and so you push the vax. Ivermectin, HCQ work around the world, but you say they don't.

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed

C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.

* You pretend the 'Covid' tests are valid.

FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else
fos-sa.org ^ | August 2, 2021 | Naomi Wolf

* You pretend the Delta variant is behind the 'surge' and is reason to get the vax.

Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin

* Overall, your firm support for the 'narrative' indicates your belief that Fauci/NIH/CDC are telling the truth.

"Conspiracy theorist" Robert Kennedy Jr. explains relationship between world’s most powerful doctor Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci [2 minute Video]
twitter.com ^ | April 19, 2021 | Camus @husserl80

Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.
5/3/2021 | vanity

You pretend the entire basis for China Biden's Plandemic is legit while posting as a conservative on FR. 

You are never skeptical about the 'Plandemic Narrative' no matter how many reports surface around the world contradicting it; you have no doubts or questions for the CDC. When real people come forward, put their reputations and credentials on the line, and pierce the 'Plandemic Narrative', you say they're fake and it costs you and your annonymity NOTHING.

You ridicule real doctors with impressive accomplishments who are saving lives with their safe, effective treatment protocols and education. It's war and you just happen to prefer ALL of the key talking points of those working to destroy us.

Mind you there is no meaningful data in your claim or any claim.

ANY CLAIM. Just a blanket denial. Fauci supporters always start by saying that anything people write against the Plandemic has no meaning, isn't real etc.

Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit
freedomplatform.tv ^ | August 18, 2020 | Dr. David E Martin

The CDC and NIH use the same tactic. Pretend there is no evidence and then say things like, "We're not aware of any reason why pregnant women shouldn't get the 'vaccine....' That will be their excuse - they weren't aware.

As the public wakes up, the Faucists and CDC supporters are preying on a smaller and smaller number of people who haven't woken up.

Karl Denninger runs the numbers on Market-ticker.com. Please write him and explain how his statistics which show 1.2 million people of working age are missing from the job market are wrong, because he doesn't want it to be true. He keeps asking someone to explain it to him; he doesn't want to be right. But be careful; Karl knows what he's talking about, has been crunching these numbers for  years, and he's not impressed with fake and/or anonymous credentials, medical degrees etc. 

There are unsubstantiated allegations.

Americans are doing a good job of pinning our domestic enemies to the floor with facts. The CDC has simply stated over and over 'those facts don't exist', just like the corrupt traitors in Congress and the MSM keep stating there is no evidence of 2020 election theft.

The CDC, Pharma etc. don't respond to public inquiry or answer questions. They flat 'overrule' the public while behaving as if they are our overlords; they shall determine who 'gets' to claim facts, and who 'gets' to be threatened, censored silenced and smeared.

The weaponized medical establishment fell into a stunned silence and was unable to refute the information presented by Steve Kirsch, even the part where he offers 1 million dollars for NIH/CDC/FAUCI to debate him on the facts. Our enemies did what you do - they ignored him.

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm amazed you and others who push (shove) the 'vaccine' are not concerned with all the CDC's 'unsubstantiated allegations'. Why aren't you skeptical of their edicts and pronouncements?

You and your buddies in the CDC are thoroughly unconcered that the Covid vaccines were tested briefly and have zero interest in long term effects. A 'normal' year might have 300 deaths post vaccination, but since Covid, were' way up in the thousands and you're yelling "SITUATION NORMAL!" You never ask the CDC or NIH or Fauci for evidence to prove anything- you just PUSH and SHOVE THE VAX.  

I am my colleagues have seen no vaccine injuries hospitalized.

You and other fake anonymous doctor 'colleagues' pretend to work in magical hospitals with patient populations which magically conform to the 'Plandemic Narrative'. The rest of America, and the rest of the world is living in reality where the vaccinated are being infected, spreading the infection, being hospitalized and dying in increasing rates. You will pretend this information does not exist.

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | Staff

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Real doctors put their profession and reputation on the line to save people, and you and other anonymous, fake doctors predictably attack him/her. You've never said anything approving of those who are taking  a beating, unduring threats and suppression, and censorship. Why not at least refute their evidence, instead of ignoring it? Because you can't.

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Version 1.0 [Outstanding, one-of-a-kind collection of critical medical, social and survival aspects of our enemies' tactics and goals] PDF at link
stopworldcontrol.com ^ | 9/26/2021 | John Sorenson and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko

Dr. Ryan Cole: weakening our immune system, e.g., since Jan 1, the lab has seen a 20 times increase of endometrial cancer (Transcript and link to two minute video)
Twitter ^ | Aug 25, 2021 | Dr. Ryan Cole via @ToTheLifeboats

There is no massive uptick in unexplained deaths. If the roughly 355 million doses of vaccination used were producing even a fraction of that which you claim it would be overwhelmingly evident. Where are the bodies?

There is a massive uptick in unexplained deaths. And sadly, many have injuries - they are flooding the hospitals now and they are falsely classified as 'unvaccinated'. Obitituaries now simply say "sudden illness".

Fox News Whistleblower: My Boss Told Me ‘Do Not Report Deaths After Vaccination’ [includes my notes on first 12 minutes of video]
banned.video ^ | Aug 5, 2021 | The Alex Jones Show, Ivory Hecker

BOMBSHELL: British Funeral Director John O'Looney: Deaths Skyrocketed '300%' After Covid Vaccine (Video)
RAIR Foundation USA ^ | October 14, 2021 | Renee Nal

Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE" (15 minute video) [He and others meet Oct 23, Noon at the State Capitol in St. Paul, Minnesota to walk to Gov's Mansion
rumble.com ^ | October 12, 2021 | Stew Peters, Mark Bishofsky

WARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"
brighteon.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Brighteon User: Contrarian

Witnessing the harm done by vaccines explains why so many medical people and first responders are willing to lose their jobs rather than volunteer for biowweapon injections. 

And in you snd your followers chronic posting of every breathless and unsubstantiated claim as gospel fact, it is becoming nothing more than irrelevant noise.

The plain fact is you want people to believe penumbras and shadows as gospel truth while attempting to deny the obvious. It has and is failing as the chronic drumbeat is gathering little movement.

Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything. They're out there urging children and pregnant women to get a toxic experimental vaccine for a highly treatable illness to which the young are not succeptible. Instead - they push the vax. 

Your numbers are grossly inflated on logic that is faulty. You have no data. Just rantings of those with an agenda and yet you post it as if it were gospel fact. You have selected what conclusion you want and are working back from that conclusion trying to force things to for your narrative. It’s why there is zero clear evidence supporting your beliefs.

Refute Steve Kirsch's valid, defensible information and win 1 million dollars. You can prove him wrong, prove me wrong, AND win 1 million dollars! DO IT! 

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm not making up data, I'm quoting experts with evidence the CDC, NIH, and FDA pretend don't exist. Zelenko, McCullough, Dr. Merrit and others are saving lives, and the CDC won't acknowldege them, other than to attack them, and won't even advise the public to make sure they get enough Vitamin D to cut RISK.

FReepers are sharing stories of 'vaccine' harm you also ignore.

LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

It is also why I’m order for you to to be correct. That all but the dirty dozen of physicians who you regularly quote would have to be in on some conspiracy. Every physician including my colleagues on free republic would have to be coordinating our stories and lying.

Those the Biden machinery attacks are now deemed the 'dirty dozen'? Want to include all the others the Biden regime is attacking? How about the Jan 6 political prisoners he's taken. Are they 'dirty' too? Who says they are dirty? The CDC/MSM/NIH/Fauci...and YOU.

You and your fellow fake doctors are pretending there is no suppression or censorship. You know who else believes there's no censorship or suppression of medical evidence? The CDC and Fauci. Funny how that always happens, eh?

Dr. Hoffe was threatened for asking why his 900 patients, which he vaccinated, had higher rates of vaccine harm that didn't match Pfizer's trial claims. He was issued a gag order, his hospital privileges were stripped, he lost half his income and his clinic burned down. Anyone who stands up to The Plandemic Narrative is viciously attacked - and you pretend there's just a 'dirty dozen' out there making up wild lies and attaching their names, reputations to them for no reason.

But all you and your group have is that we are lying and other people have said….
Well if you believe some whistleblower with no direct clinical presence you must lend equal weight to those of us who are dismissed as anonymous physicians who are probably lying

WORLD-WIDE EVIDENCE refutes you. Clinical evidence, first person accounts, successful physicians who stand in front of a camera and take the abuse to get the word out. Entire nations report their populations are responding well to Ivermectin, the safety and efficacy of ivermectin/HCQ are extensive and well known, and then read you and your anonymous, fake doctor 'colleagues' insisting Ivermectin is useless. I'm supposed to believe fake anonymous doctors pushing the Fauci party line?

Your story has more wholes than Swiss cheese. You just are blinded by your agenda to see it.

The CDC/Fauci/NIH are weaponized. You and your kind either quote Fauci or his sources, attack the messenger or change the subject. Where's your report to refute Steve Kirsch's report?

You and the CDC et. al. pursue an agenda that is damaging the US and that's not something you regret. 

The CCP may treat its ardent supporters who are shoving the vax like they are important loyalists, or special now, but they don't mean it.

Video: Communist Professor Declares That U.S. Was Defeated In ‘Biological War’ With China CCP affiliated researcher says China “put the U.S. back in its place”
summit.news ^ | May 19, 2021 | Steve Watson

 



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To: Pelham

We look at any text written before the COVID crusade. It is a basic tenet of infectious disease.


61 posted on 10/18/2021 7:04:16 PM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: adorno

The fast tracking happened because the research had already been done. The mRNA technology has been in development for 30 years. The biochemist Katalin Karikó was an mRNA-vaccine pioneer beginning in In 1989. Hundreds of scientists contributed to the research. As a vaccine it was first applied to the denuge fever. Dengvaxia was approved in the United States as the first mRNA vaccine approved for the prevention of dengue disease caused by all dengue virus serotype. All the covid vaccine developers had to do was to plug the Spike Protein blueprint into the Denque virus vaccine.


62 posted on 10/18/2021 7:06:28 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: bagster

lol — don’t grudge me, bro ;)


63 posted on 10/18/2021 7:07:11 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: adorno
We have plenty of evidence from past vaccines, and all of those vaccines administered are over the past 20 years, are less deaths then the number of admitted deaths from these current vaccines in less than 2 years.

That's how.

64 posted on 10/18/2021 7:08:50 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Pelham

Since you seem to have missed this information. Here is one article to review:

https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/mass-vaccination-during-pandemic-a-historic-blunder-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier/ar-AAKmnJr

New Delhi: French virologist and Nobel Prize winner Luc Montagnier called mass vaccination against the coronavirus during the pandemic “unthinkable” and a historical blunder that is “creating the variants” and leading to deaths from the disease, LifeSite News reported.

“It’s an enormous mistake, isn’t it? A scientific error as well as a medical error. It is an unacceptable mistake,” Montagnier said in an interview translated and published by the RAIR Foundation US.

“The history books will show that because it is the vaccination that is creating the variants,” the report said.

Many epidemiologists know it and are “silent” about the problem known as “antibody-dependent enhancement,” Montagnier said.

“It is the antibodies produced by the virus that enable an infection to become stronger,” he said in an interview with Pierre Barnerias of Hold-Up Media earlier this month.

While variants of viruses can occur naturally, Montagnier said that vaccination is driving the process. “What does the virus do? Does it die or find another solution?

“It is clear that the new variants are created by antibody-mediated selection due to the vaccination.”

Vaccinating during a pandemic is “unthinkable” and is causing deaths, the winner of the 2008 Nobel Prize for Medicine said.

“The new variants are production and result from the vaccination. You see it in each country, it’s the same: in every country deaths follow vaccination,” he said, as per the report.


65 posted on 10/18/2021 7:09:03 PM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: ransomnote

ping


66 posted on 10/18/2021 7:09:08 PM PDT by arthurus (covfefe zs)
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To: Pelham
It’s a great mystery why the medical world fails to recognize the concentrated genius of the vax fear school of medicine.

Them being graduated from the University of Covid Fear Medical School (UCFMS).

The two distinguished schools have a great lacrosse rivalry.


67 posted on 10/18/2021 7:15:03 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: adorno

“But, who’s gonna provide 10 years worth of data when the virus has been around only about 2 years?”

Normal vaccines have years of study behind them of successful accomplishments and incremental approvals. mRNA does not. It has since 1993 been a complete failure.


68 posted on 10/18/2021 7:15:42 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: JayGalt

Oh it’s from Luc Montagnier?

Did he say that before or after he began proposing his “water has memory” theory?


69 posted on 10/18/2021 7:19:38 PM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: jacknhoo; ransomnote

“Thank you for all of your hard work and the magnificent amount of valuable educational information.”

It should all be collected and submitted to the Nobel committee for consideration. I see a prize waiting.


70 posted on 10/18/2021 7:19:52 PM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: gitmo

@Runner_Girl81
@Girl81Runner
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4h
Tonight, my cousin died from COVID in our ICU. She was 48 years old. She was vaccinated. She hadn’t even been admitted for 48 hours. I’m stunned, saddened and numb. I’m just at such a loss right now. Tell people you love them. Tomorrow is never promised.


71 posted on 10/18/2021 7:20:01 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: TTFX

If the wisdom divulged in these freeper vax threads was collected in a treatise it would advance medical knowledge beyond anything that Franz Gall and Johan Spurzheim could have foreseen.


72 posted on 10/18/2021 7:24:20 PM PDT by Pelham ('Viruses don't exist' is the latest variant of Flat Earth theory)
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To: ransomnote
You wrote: "Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything."

Those who live in other countries could care less about Fauci and the CDC. They do believe in vaccines and are benefiting from them. It is fortunate that their vaccination programs were well underway before the Delta Variant appeared because they would have had deaths like we saw in India, where it first erupted. On May 23rd, 2021 their daily deaths peaked at 5010 deaths.

Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi: "I appeal to all those who are eligible to take the vaccine. Together, let us make India COVID-19 free!"


73 posted on 10/18/2021 7:34:10 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: ransomnote

We are constantly being told there is one, and only one avenue of escape via the mRNA stuff. We know this is patently false.

I’m not advocating for or against any side in this. I think that every individual has to weigh the risks, and benefits of putting this mRNA material into their bodies. If anyone wants take it, fine it’s your life, live it as you choose. I respect those who don’t want to take that chance either. There are plenty of people who took the shots and ended up with life altering adverse events, or are now dead.

The few privateers who are investigating off label use for Ivermectin, HCQ, etc. are treated as witch doctors and their findings are dismissed as quackery. This is a crime against humanity if this were the extinction level event that we are being lied to to believe. If it was an extinction level event, then any and all treatments would have an equal standing to save humanity.

All of this points towards an agenda that is not about public health, but the extinction of liberty.


74 posted on 10/18/2021 7:42:08 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (The democRATS are not looking to govern, they intend to RULE.)
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To: ransomnote

Excellent write up and yes the VP crowd is made up of a bunch of pathetic, limp wristed, pro-Fauci boot lickers.


75 posted on 10/18/2021 7:46:11 PM PDT by tatown
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To: ransomnote

Ping - many articles


76 posted on 10/18/2021 7:59:03 PM PDT by WhattheDickens? (Funny, I didn’t think this was 1984…)
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To: Pelham

Will you ridicule CHOP as well?
https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-safety/antibody-dependent-enhancement-and-vaccines


77 posted on 10/18/2021 7:59:15 PM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: JayGalt
99.8% cure rate is not equivalent from being trapped on an upper story during a fire.

I guess the analogy was above your head.

It's about the emergency aspect of it, and not the size of the emergency or event.
78 posted on 10/18/2021 8:02:10 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Pelham

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32908214/

Many institutions are twisting themselves in not to avoid the possibility of COVID vaccine mediated antibody-dependent enhancement but the research is there for anyone unbiased to appreciate. The CHOP article is an example of that phenomena


79 posted on 10/18/2021 8:02:57 PM PDT by JayGalt (The dogs bark but the caravan moves on.)
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To: jonrick46
The fast tracking happened because the research had already been done.

Doesn't matter. It was an emergency needing a quick solution and one was found, whether helped by past research or not.
80 posted on 10/18/2021 8:03:45 PM PDT by adorno
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