To those who still pretend that the 'Covid Vaccine' is 'safe and effective', where's your evidence? Please refute Steve Kirch's report and provide 10 years of data.

10/18/2021 | vanity

[ransomnote]

ransomnote: Below, I posted my response to one of countless posts to me stating that I post Covid content without merit in order to push 'an agenda'. The name of the freeper this time is irrelevant because other have said the same thing. 

Freeper: This is a tour d’force of maybes, ifs and allegations that uses one theoretical allegation to build on the next.

You and others on FR working to keep the Plandemic alive rely on inuendo and allegations. To support the 'narrative', your content supports an entire fabric of lies.

* You imply 'Covid' is far more deadly than it is. Even the CDC admitted in May that 94% of "Covid" deaths are persons with an average of 4 co-morbidities (hint: they died of other things). It's not just the US that has ridiculously inflated 'Covid' death tolls.

Lisbon Court Rules Only 0.9% Of ‘Verified Cases’ Died Of COVID, Numbering 152, Not 17,000 As Claimed
greatgameindia.com ^ 

* You insist there are no treatments and so you push the vax. Ivermectin, HCQ work around the world, but you say they don't.

Dr Robert Malone @RWMaloneMD | Peru-> last half of 2020. Mortality dropped 14 fold over 3 months with Ivermectin, rose 13 fold when Ivermectin removed

C19Protocols – Reducing Risk of COVID-19 Infection and Severity

A Guide to Home-Based COVID Treatment
aapsonline.org ^ | December 11, 2020 | Jane M. Orient M.D., & Elizabeth Lee Vliet, M.D.

* You pretend the 'Covid' tests are valid.

FDA document admits “covid” PCR test was developed without isolated covid samples for test calibration, effectively admitting it’s testing something else
fos-sa.org ^ | August 2, 2021 | Naomi Wolf

* You pretend the Delta variant is behind the 'surge' and is reason to get the vax.

Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin emailed the CDC to ask them how they are verifying what variant is dominant. This was their answer. Thoughts?
Twitter ^ | 7/29/2021 | Dnice4Jesus @DeniceMarin

* Overall, your firm support for the 'narrative' indicates your belief that Fauci/NIH/CDC are telling the truth.

"Conspiracy theorist" Robert Kennedy Jr. explains relationship between world’s most powerful doctor Bill Gates and Dr. Fauci [2 minute Video]
twitter.com ^ | April 19, 2021 | Camus @husserl80

Bill Gates, George Soros and others are driving the CDC's medical Tyranny with Private Donations to CDC Foundation. We have to reject the CDC to free ourselves.
5/3/2021 | vanity

You pretend the entire basis for China Biden's Plandemic is legit while posting as a conservative on FR. 

You are never skeptical about the 'Plandemic Narrative' no matter how many reports surface around the world contradicting it; you have no doubts or questions for the CDC. When real people come forward, put their reputations and credentials on the line, and pierce the 'Plandemic Narrative', you say they're fake and it costs you and your annonymity NOTHING.

You ridicule real doctors with impressive accomplishments who are saving lives with their safe, effective treatment protocols and education. It's war and you just happen to prefer ALL of the key talking points of those working to destroy us.

Mind you there is no meaningful data in your claim or any claim.

ANY CLAIM. Just a blanket denial. Fauci supporters always start by saying that anything people write against the Plandemic has no meaning, isn't real etc.

Plandemic Indoctrination [watch movie free, free to download] Includes notes on 7 minute sample excerpt of the movie: Clip 03 Turning CoronaVirus from a pathogen to a profit
freedomplatform.tv ^ | August 18, 2020 | Dr. David E Martin

The CDC and NIH use the same tactic. Pretend there is no evidence and then say things like, "We're not aware of any reason why pregnant women shouldn't get the 'vaccine....' That will be their excuse - they weren't aware.

As the public wakes up, the Faucists and CDC supporters are preying on a smaller and smaller number of people who haven't woken up.

Karl Denninger runs the numbers on Market-ticker.com. Please write him and explain how his statistics which show 1.2 million people of working age are missing from the job market are wrong, because he doesn't want it to be true. He keeps asking someone to explain it to him; he doesn't want to be right. But be careful; Karl knows what he's talking about, has been crunching these numbers for  years, and he's not impressed with fake and/or anonymous credentials, medical degrees etc. 

There are unsubstantiated allegations.

Americans are doing a good job of pinning our domestic enemies to the floor with facts. The CDC has simply stated over and over 'those facts don't exist', just like the corrupt traitors in Congress and the MSM keep stating there is no evidence of 2020 election theft.

The CDC, Pharma etc. don't respond to public inquiry or answer questions. They flat 'overrule' the public while behaving as if they are our overlords; they shall determine who 'gets' to claim facts, and who 'gets' to be threatened, censored silenced and smeared.

The weaponized medical establishment fell into a stunned silence and was unable to refute the information presented by Steve Kirsch, even the part where he offers 1 million dollars for NIH/CDC/FAUCI to debate him on the facts. Our enemies did what you do - they ignored him.

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm amazed you and others who push (shove) the 'vaccine' are not concerned with all the CDC's 'unsubstantiated allegations'. Why aren't you skeptical of their edicts and pronouncements?

You and your buddies in the CDC are thoroughly unconcered that the Covid vaccines were tested briefly and have zero interest in long term effects. A 'normal' year might have 300 deaths post vaccination, but since Covid, were' way up in the thousands and you're yelling "SITUATION NORMAL!" You never ask the CDC or NIH or Fauci for evidence to prove anything- you just PUSH and SHOVE THE VAX.  

I am my colleagues have seen no vaccine injuries hospitalized.

You and other fake anonymous doctor 'colleagues' pretend to work in magical hospitals with patient populations which magically conform to the 'Plandemic Narrative'. The rest of America, and the rest of the world is living in reality where the vaccinated are being infected, spreading the infection, being hospitalized and dying in increasing rates. You will pretend this information does not exist.

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

More deaths from vaccinations than from Covid-19 in Taiwan
FreeWestMedia ^ | October 17, 2021 | Staff

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Real doctors put their profession and reputation on the line to save people, and you and other anonymous, fake doctors predictably attack him/her. You've never said anything approving of those who are taking  a beating, unduring threats and suppression, and censorship. Why not at least refute their evidence, instead of ignoring it? Because you can't.

THE VACCINE DEATH REPORT Version 1.0 [Outstanding, one-of-a-kind collection of critical medical, social and survival aspects of our enemies' tactics and goals] PDF at link
stopworldcontrol.com ^ | 9/26/2021 | John Sorenson and Dr. Vladimir Zelenko

Dr. Ryan Cole: weakening our immune system, e.g., since Jan 1, the lab has seen a 20 times increase of endometrial cancer (Transcript and link to two minute video)
Twitter ^ | Aug 25, 2021 | Dr. Ryan Cole via @ToTheLifeboats

There is no massive uptick in unexplained deaths. If the roughly 355 million doses of vaccination used were producing even a fraction of that which you claim it would be overwhelmingly evident. Where are the bodies?

There is a massive uptick in unexplained deaths. And sadly, many have injuries - they are flooding the hospitals now and they are falsely classified as 'unvaccinated'. Obitituaries now simply say "sudden illness".

Fox News Whistleblower: My Boss Told Me ‘Do Not Report Deaths After Vaccination’ [includes my notes on first 12 minutes of video]
banned.video ^ | Aug 5, 2021 | The Alex Jones Show, Ivory Hecker

BOMBSHELL: British Funeral Director John O'Looney: Deaths Skyrocketed '300%' After Covid Vaccine (Video)
RAIR Foundation USA ^ | October 14, 2021 | Renee Nal

Respiratory Therapist Blows Whistle: "I'm Watching People DIE" (15 minute video) [He and others meet Oct 23, Noon at the State Capitol in St. Paul, Minnesota to walk to Gov's Mansion
rumble.com ^ | October 12, 2021 | Stew Peters, Mark Bishofsky

WARNING: NURSING HOME WHISTLEBLOWER, "PATIENTS DYING LIKE FLIES AFTER VACCINE"
brighteon.com ^ | January 28, 2021 | Brighteon User: Contrarian

Witnessing the harm done by vaccines explains why so many medical people and first responders are willing to lose their jobs rather than volunteer for biowweapon injections. 

And in you snd your followers chronic posting of every breathless and unsubstantiated claim as gospel fact, it is becoming nothing more than irrelevant noise.

The plain fact is you want people to believe penumbras and shadows as gospel truth while attempting to deny the obvious. It has and is failing as the chronic drumbeat is gathering little movement.

Oh come on - the blind belief in 'gospel truth' is what your leaders, Fauci and the CDC, live by. They never prove anything. They're out there urging children and pregnant women to get a toxic experimental vaccine for a highly treatable illness to which the young are not succeptible. Instead - they push the vax. 

Your numbers are grossly inflated on logic that is faulty. You have no data. Just rantings of those with an agenda and yet you post it as if it were gospel fact. You have selected what conclusion you want and are working back from that conclusion trying to force things to for your narrative. It’s why there is zero clear evidence supporting your beliefs.

Refute Steve Kirsch's valid, defensible information and win 1 million dollars. You can prove him wrong, prove me wrong, AND win 1 million dollars! DO IT! 

Comment to ACIP meeting of August 30, 2021 submitted by Steve Kirsch (with 20 experts including Dr Malone, Dr. Vanden Bossche, Dr. McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, Dr. Fareed
skirsch.com ^ | August 30, 2021 | Steve Kirsch

I'm not making up data, I'm quoting experts with evidence the CDC, NIH, and FDA pretend don't exist. Zelenko, McCullough, Dr. Merrit and others are saving lives, and the CDC won't acknowldege them, other than to attack them, and won't even advise the public to make sure they get enough Vitamin D to cut RISK.

FReepers are sharing stories of 'vaccine' harm you also ignore.

LilFarmer: "I have noticed many posts of personal experiences with adverse reactions to the vaccine and thought it would be helpful to put them all in one place."
8/24/2021 | LilFarmer

It is also why I’m order for you to to be correct. That all but the dirty dozen of physicians who you regularly quote would have to be in on some conspiracy. Every physician including my colleagues on free republic would have to be coordinating our stories and lying.

Those the Biden machinery attacks are now deemed the 'dirty dozen'? Want to include all the others the Biden regime is attacking? How about the Jan 6 political prisoners he's taken. Are they 'dirty' too? Who says they are dirty? The CDC/MSM/NIH/Fauci...and YOU.

You and your fellow fake doctors are pretending there is no suppression or censorship. You know who else believes there's no censorship or suppression of medical evidence? The CDC and Fauci. Funny how that always happens, eh?

Dr. Hoffe was threatened for asking why his 900 patients, which he vaccinated, had higher rates of vaccine harm that didn't match Pfizer's trial claims. He was issued a gag order, his hospital privileges were stripped, he lost half his income and his clinic burned down. Anyone who stands up to The Plandemic Narrative is viciously attacked - and you pretend there's just a 'dirty dozen' out there making up wild lies and attaching their names, reputations to them for no reason.

But all you and your group have is that we are lying and other people have said….
Well if you believe some whistleblower with no direct clinical presence you must lend equal weight to those of us who are dismissed as anonymous physicians who are probably lying

WORLD-WIDE EVIDENCE refutes you. Clinical evidence, first person accounts, successful physicians who stand in front of a camera and take the abuse to get the word out. Entire nations report their populations are responding well to Ivermectin, the safety and efficacy of ivermectin/HCQ are extensive and well known, and then read you and your anonymous, fake doctor 'colleagues' insisting Ivermectin is useless. I'm supposed to believe fake anonymous doctors pushing the Fauci party line?

Your story has more wholes than Swiss cheese. You just are blinded by your agenda to see it.

The CDC/Fauci/NIH are weaponized. You and your kind either quote Fauci or his sources, attack the messenger or change the subject. Where's your report to refute Steve Kirsch's report?

You and the CDC et. al. pursue an agenda that is damaging the US and that's not something you regret. 

The CCP may treat its ardent supporters who are shoving the vax like they are important loyalists, or special now, but they don't mean it.

Video: Communist Professor Declares That U.S. Was Defeated In ‘Biological War’ With China CCP affiliated researcher says China “put the U.S. back in its place”
summit.news ^ | May 19, 2021 | Steve Watson

 

[ransomnote]

I don't have the links all in one place and, based on who it is I'm to educate, I am not sure it's worth finding them all.  Someone finally thought they found an example of animals that lived - only to learn they all died of illness after the study. See, keep the study short! WIN WIN!

For example, I recall Moderna tested about 20 monkeys (too small a sample) and they chose a species that never becomes really ill from Coronaviruses (at most sniffles)

Here's some info easy to find:

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https://www.deconstructingconventional.com/post/18-reason-i-won-t-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine

After 2000, scientists made many attempts to create coronavirus vaccines.

For the past 20 years, all ended in failure because the animals in the clinical trials got very sick and many died, just like the children in the 1960's.

You can read a summary of this history/science here.

Or if you want to read the individual studies you can check out these links: 

• In 2004 attempted vaccine produced hepatitis in ferrets

• In 2005 mice and civets became sick and more susceptible to coronaviruses after being vaccinated

• In 2012 the ferrets became sick and died. And in this study mice and ferrets developed lung disease.

• In 2016 this study also produce lung disease in mice.

The typical pattern in the studies mentioned above is that the children and the animals produced beautiful antibody responses after being vaccinated.

The manufacturers thought they hit the jackpot.

The problem came when the children and animals were exposed to the wild version of the virus.

When that happened, an unexplained phenomenon called Antibody Dependent Enhancement (ADE) also known as Vaccine Enhanced Disease (VED) occurred where the immune system produced a "cytokine storm" (i.e. overwhelmingly attacked the body), and the children/animals died.

Here's the lingering issue..

The vaccine makers have no data to suggest their rushed vaccines have overcome that problem.

In other words, never before has any attempt to make a coronavirus vaccine been successful, nor has the gene-therapy technology that is mRNA "vaccines" been safely brought to market, but hey, since they had billions of dollars in government funding, I'm sure they figured that out. 

Except they don't know if they have...

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A poster gave a link quite awhile back about mRNA tests on animals. Dr. Angelina Farella testified before the Texas Senate Committee that in animal trials where an mRNA vaccine for species-specific animal disease was tested, 100% of the animals in the trials died. However, they didn’t die from the vaccines. They died when the animals were each exposed to their disease in the wild. The animals were ferrets, mice and two non-human primates.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., founder of Children’s Health Defense, had this to say about coronavirus vaccine tests:

“Scientists first attempted to develop coronavirus vaccines after China’s 2002 SARS-CoV outbreak. Teams of US & foreign scientists vaccinated animals with the four most promising vaccines. At first, the experiment seemed successful as all the animals developed a robust antibody response to coronavirus. However, when the scientists exposed the vaccinated animals to the wild virus, the results were horrifying. Vaccinated animals suffered hyper-immune responses including inflammation throughout their bodies, especially in their lungs. Researchers had seen this same “enhanced immune response” during human testing of the failed RSV vaccine tests in the 1960s. Two children died.”

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[jonrick46]

A good find with the imagery, but I can’t understand how fighting a pandemic is a deep state strategy to One World the planet. I believe we are in the training ground for future pandemics. That the World Health Organization is sticking their foot in it may be so they can look like heroes. Lucky this one is not so deadly while we are in the learning process. Someday, it will be like a Manhattan Project in a race for survival.

You read my version of how disappointed I was with the vaccine. You read how I wanted the vax mutation value of it with horns, red skin, a tail and rule over the Earth. Of course, that was for laughs. Also for laughs are those who are acting like Chicken Littles crying the vaccine is a death sentence. That image of Chicken Little with vax needles raining down, if I drew one, would be my Ben Garrison moment of humor.

[ransomnote]

Good grief. Give it a rest. I swear, every time I come to this group to check out news...all I see is anit-vax crap.
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[EasySt]

Thanks, Ransomnote!

Bookmarked.

~Easy

[ez]

I had it Chuckb87. I was even hospitalized for six days and given 5 doses of Remdesivir. All three months after I had the jab. I recovered much to the amazement of my doctors. Over 60 yo and 75 lbs overweight. I think the incentive spirometer might have saved me and kept me off the vent. Now you know someone who had it.

[cantfindagoodscreenname]

One of your best posts to date! Thank you for sticking it out here and doing your best to educate those of us who don’t have the education and experience you do.

[Tellurian]

1989 puts it way back in time! Didn't know that.

It was the research for its use as a denuge fever mRNA vaccine encapsulated in a lipid nanoparticles that began 10 years ago

The other day I saw video of Fauci in an 10/29/2019 panel discussion at CSPAN mention attaching hemagglutinin stem antigens to "self assembling nano particles". Part of a universal mRNA flu vaccine. Is that the "lipid nanoparticles" you mentioned? The self assembling aspect is strange and intriguing.

[bagster]

But the right to choose or not to choose does not translate into the right to demand therapies that are equivocal or disproven.

Actually, it does Gassie.

Now if you were the godling that you think you are, then you would perhaps be right. But you are not. You are fallible with large holes in your knowledge.

You say there is 'no evidence' that ivermecton and HCQ work. There is tons of evidence. The fact that you are unaware of it makes you unqualified to choose a patient's treatment.

You say that, 'Most of my colleagues and myself have not seen any critically ill in the vaccinated. This despite the NUMEROUS reports by various sources to the contrary.

This statement of yours calls into question your credibility, which is falling faster than Joe Biden's pants at a six year old's birthday party.

The moral of the story is this. You are a 'doctor' who works in an ICU unit. You live in that bubble and seem unaware that there is a great big world out there.

Your 'professional pride' and desire to be right and the one who has all the answers, has driven you mad.

Physician, fix your blind spots and always remember....do no harm.

p.s. How do you know Ransomnote was even talking about you? She didn't name names. Feeling guilty?

[Pelham]

“Actually, they did Pelham. I’ll just ping Ransomnote, she might have that information handy.”

Oh. You mean you don’t have a source to back up your claim? This is my surprised face.

I don’t find it hard to find sources discussing Covid vaxes and ADE. How about this one:

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/91648?vpass=1

“Why ADE Hasn’t Been a Problem With COVID Vaccines”

Early in the pandemic, scientists engaged in a flurry of discussions about the best way to construct COVID-19 vaccines to ensure their efficacy and safety. Some of these discussions centered around antibody-dependent enhancement of immunity (ADE), a potentially deadly immune phenomenon seen with other viral infections and vaccines.

So far, there have been no reports of ADE with COVID-19 vaccines. But the concerns about ADE with COVID-19 vaccines have resurfaced with the emergency of virus variants. What exactly is ADE? What do we know from past experience with it? And why do experts say it’s a non-issue with COVID-19 vaccines?

Features of ADE

While ADE can arise by different pathways, perhaps the best known is the so-called “Trojan Horse” pathway. This occurs when non-neutralizing antibodies generated by past infection or vaccination fail to shut down the pathogen upon re-exposure.

Instead, they act as a gateway by allowing the virus to gain entry and replicate in cells that are usually off limits (typically immune cells, like macrophages). That, in turn, can lead to wider dissemination of illness, and over-reactive immune responses that cause more severe illness, Barry Bloom, MD, PhD, of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, told MedPage Today.

“The cause of ADE is having antibodies to a virus that don’t neutralize it. That enables the virus to be gobbled up by cells that have receptors for antibodies, but not the virus. That’s the way of getting virus into cells that it ordinarily would not infect,” Bloom said.

ADE can also occur when neutralizing antibodies (which bind the virus and stop it from causing infection) are present at low enough levels that they don’t protect against infection. Instead, they can form immune complexes with viral particles, which in turn leads to worse illness.

What Does Past Experience Tell Us About ADE?

The classic example of Trojan Horse-style ADE comes from dengue. This virus comes in four varieties. They are different enough from each other that past infection with one does not always generate antibodies that match well enough to protect against a different variety.

ADE has also occurred after vaccination for dengue. For example, in 2016 a dengue vaccine was developed to protect against all four serotypes and given to 800,000 children in the Philippines. Among children who were vaccinated and later exposed to wild-type dengue, 14 died, presumably from more severe illness. Since then, the vaccine has been recommended only to children 9 years and older who have already been exposed to dengue.

Another classic example comes from the U.S., when ADE occurred during a clinical trial for an inactivated vaccine against respiratory syncytial virus (RSV). In 1967, children who participated in the trial and received the vaccine developed more severe RSV illness when they later encountered the virus in the community. Two toddlers died. The vaccine was associated with immune complex formation that caused lung obstruction and enhanced respiratory disease, pretty much stalling RSV vaccine development.

Similarly, cases of ADE also occurred with an inactivated measles vaccine that was being developed in the U.S. in the 1960s. After vaccinated children developed more severe illness, the vaccine was withdrawn. The live, weakened measles vaccines that are currently in use in the U.S. have not been associated with ADE.

ADE a Non-Issue With COVID Vaccines

Scientists say that ADE is pretty much a non-issue with COVID-19 vaccines, but what are they basing this on?

From the early stages of COVID-19 vaccine development, scientists sought to target a SARS-CoV-2 protein that was least likely to cause ADE. For example, when they found out that targeting the nucleoprotein of SARS-CoV-2 might cause ADE, they quickly abandoned that approach. The safest route seemed to be targeting the S2 subunit of the spike protein, and they ran with that, wrote Derek Lowe, PhD, in his Science Translational Medicine blog “In the Pipeline.”

Scientists designed animal studies to look for ADE. They looked for it in human trials, and they’ve been looking for it in the real-world data for COVID-19 vaccines with emergency use authorization. So far, they haven’t seen signs of it. In fact, the opposite is happening, Lowe noted.

“[W]hat seems to be beyond doubt is that the vaccinated subjects, over and over, show up with no severe coronavirus cases and no hospitalizations. That is the opposite of what you would expect if ADE were happening,” he wrote.

Furthermore, ADE is an acute problem, and it can be very dramatic. If it was an issue with these vaccines, we would have spotted it by now, said Brian Lichty, PhD, an associate professor in pathology and molecular medicine at McMaster University in Toronto.

“It’ll kill you quickly. In all the places I’m aware of ADE happening, it is an acute, mostly cytokine-driven event,” he told MedPage Today.

The one exception may be an inactivated whole-cell, or “killed,” vaccine developed by China. That vaccine uses alum, the same adjuvant that was used in the measles and RSV vaccines that caused ADE in the 1960s. The Chinese inactivated whole-cell vaccine could “conceivably” generate ADE like those older vaccines, according to Bloom.

“I don’t think that vaccine is ever going to see the light of day in the U.S., and it may not even be worth mentioning. There have been no actual cases of ADE with the Chinese whole-cell killed vaccine, or if so, it hasn’t been reported,” he said.

What About Variants?

Current COVID-19 vaccines were developed to protect against the original strain of SARS-CoV-2 that became dominant worldwide. As more variants arise, scientists have raised questions about whether one of these could become different enough to cause ADE. So far, that concern seems to be hypothetical, according to Lichty.

“To date, there’s really no evidence of ADE with the COVID-19 vaccines. It’s all theoretical,” he said. “I think all the evidence so far is that ADE is not turning out to be a problem with any existing vaccines or viral variants.”

One reason could be that SARS-CoV-2 just may not affect macrophages in a way that can produce ADE, although scientists are still working out the details. ADE has been reported after natural infection with other viruses, such as HIV, Ebola, and coxsackievirus, as well as other coronaviruses like SARS and MERS.

Throughout the pandemic, scientists have been looking for ADE associated with SARS-CoV-2, but so far they haven’t found any cases of it, noted Lichty.

“This coronavirus may already be sufficiently adapted to humans, so that if it does get into macrophages via a non-neutralizing antibody interaction, it may not allow the macrophage to produce enough cytokine to cause an obvious pathology,” he said.

Newer Vaccines Are Safer

Despite hesitancy about the relative newness of mRNA and adenoviral vector vaccines, these vaccines, in fact, have better safety profiles in terms of ADE than older types of vaccines, according to Bloom.

“The bottom line is that not only is the new technology faster to respond to a new viral pandemic, but so much safer and much more clearly scientifically designed,” he said. “The S protein vaccines are so much cleaner, so much more carefully defined, and so much lower risk. All you’re seeing is one protein from that virus. So the chances for ADE are much slimmer than with any of the older ways for making virus vaccines.”

Last Updated March 18, 2021

[bagster]

Of course the animals didn’t die this time....

Well, Pelham. I guess Ransomnote put the lie to your, 'Of course the animals didn’t die this time....', because, of course they did.

Thank you, Ransomnote.

Most of these vaxtards just make it up as they go along. I guess they think we don't remember what has been posted here over and over again.

[gas_dr]

How do I know RM was commenting on me — considering she cut and paste elements directly from my post to her, the thing speaks for itself. So you have lost credibility here.

You are incorrect, the belief that something works does not translate into the right of a non clinician to demand I write for a therapeutic, particularly one that is equivocal or disproven. No matter how much you squeal, you are incorrect

You continue Alinsky tactics, it is cute.

Send pictures of your tan lines from vacation — or at the least, I deserved baggie went on vacation and all I got was this lousy t-shirt.

BTW, calling me and others fags and mongoloids is beneath you...please stop.

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[gas_dr]

You notice they do not mention the FLCCC statement on the importance of vaccines — they cannot handle it when their own sources call them out for being wrong.

[Bikkuri]

"To all who want to force the rest of us to take this crap, GFY."

I second that!

[Pelham]

“Well, Pelham. I guess Ransomnote put the lie to your, ‘Of course the animals didn’t die this time....’, because, of course they did.”

Despite the above sterling example of logic-free double talk, ransomnote hasn’t provided any link to a study documenting ADE death of covid vax test animals.

Maybe Bagster World operates like Alice in Wonderland where pretend and reality are interchangeable. Many suspect that’s the case.

[Pelham]

The Freeper School of CoVax Knowledge is not confined to consistency. Or logic. That’s its beauty. They are breaking new ground.

[bagster]

That the World Health Organization is sticking their foot in it may be so they can look like heroes.

Yea, that's the ticket. And Bill Gates doesn't believe in depopulation. And George Soros isn't seeking world domination and the toppling of governments for the derp state.

And both control the WHO who was instrumental in giving us the covid in the first place and orchestrating the world's 'response'.

Seriously, Jonirick. Put 2 and 2 together.

Naive rabbits get runt over by cars.

That image of Chicken Little with vax needles raining down, if I drew one, would be my Ben Garrison moment of humor.

Doubtful. More likely it would look like this....

[ransomnote]

"Barry Bloom, MD, PhD, of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health"

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Barry Bloom has ties to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, 40  years of ties with the World Health Organization, the UN, the WOrld Bank, he's served on Fauci's NIAID, the CDC and every other organization running this Plandemic. I'll put an excerpt of his vitae at the bottom of this post.

In the meantime, why were 'your kind' not interested in the NIH article stating that the Covid Trials incorrectly 'obscurred' the risks of ADE from trial participants and must inform all future  mRNA trials and every patient. He and other researchers noted the history of coronavirus 'vaccines' is heavily burdened by ADE and it was an ethical obligation to discuss the important risks with patients before they receive the vax.

 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33113270/

ADE is now sickening and killing people - and the CDC and it's loyalists are renaming it "Delta". In your world, it CAN'T be ADE until the compromised medical community attacking the public confesses what it is doing.

You Quote CDC loyalists: "So far, there have been no reports of ADE with COVID-19 vaccines." That's it then. The CDC/NIH did not confess, therefore the reports of ADE surfacing have to be denied without reason. Just the word of the CDC/NIH 'ends all discussion'

Here's another lie: "Scientists designed animal studies to look for ADE." You have to be joking. The whole piece is propaganda provided by Faucists.

"“[W]hat seems to be beyond doubt is that the vaccinated subjects, over and over, show up with no severe coronavirus cases and no hospitalizations. That is the opposite of what you would expect if ADE were happening,” he wrote."

Infection Rate in Vaccinated People in Their 40s Now More Than DOUBLE the Rate in Unvaccinated, PHE Data Shows, as Vaccine Effectiveness Hits Minus-109%
Daily Sceptic ^ | 15 October 2021

Latest UKHSA report shows Vaccinated accounted for 80% of Covid-19 Deaths and 60% of Hospitalisations in the last 4 weeks
theexpose.uk ^ | 10/16/2021 | The Expose

Wonder what they're really looking at in this article?

[UK] A comparison of official Government reports suggest the Fully Vaccinated are developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome
The Expose (UK) ^ | 10 October 2021

Since 2005, ADE was a problem for all efforts to use mRNA to develop 'vaccines' and they just state in your propaganda article that it's not so. End of discussion:

"“To date, there’s really no evidence of ADE with the COVID-19 vaccines. It’s all theoretical,” he said. “I think all the evidence so far is that ADE is not turning out to be a problem with any existing vaccines or viral variants.” 

"Last Updated March 18, 2021"

They were that confident in MARCH, a full 3 months in to the vaccination program, when ADE sets in later, after 3 months. That's a propaganda piece. I think you were using the term "protein subunits" to hide teh fact that Novavax is pure, damaging spike proteins. Yes there is adenovirus version, and all the extra problems that creates.

You've yet to demonstrate any prowess remotely near your level of pomposity. You never will.

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Here's your boy, Barry Blooms Deep State resume:

For more than 40 years, he has been extensively involved with the World Health Organization. He is currently chair of their Technical and Research Advisory Committee to the Global Programme on Malaria. He has also been a member of their Advisory Committee on Health Research, and chaired their Committees on Leprosy Research and Tuberculosis Research and the Scientific and Technical Advisory Committee of the United Nations Development Programme/World Bank/World Health Organization Special Programme for Research and Training in Tropical Diseases. Bloom serves on the editorial board of the Bulletin of the World Health Organization.

Bloom currently serves on the Ellison Medical Foundation scientific advisory board and the Wellcome Trust Pathogens, Immunology and Population Health Strategy Committee. He is on the scientific advisory board of the Earth Institute at Columbia University and the advisory council of the Paul G. Rogers Society for Global Health Research.

His past service includes membership on the national advisory council of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the scientific advisory board of the National Center for Infectious Diseases of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the national advisory board of the Fogarty International Center at the National Institutes of Health, as well as the governing board of the Institute of Medicine.

[blueplum]

six words: death rate, and, social security disability claims

see ya at the monoclonal bar :)

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blueplum, why would I waste time trying figure out what you thought would be a witty post, but isn’t?