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To: Berlin_Freeper

According to my calculations based on recent VAERS numbers, the covid vaccines are a big nothing burger in terms of causing problems. I came up with risk percentage of 0.002% from the jabs.

I am taking my chances of avoiding death from covid by taking the vaccines. I like the odds.


4 posted on 08/07/2021 12:08:54 PM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the force behind warp speed availability of vaccines for Americans. )
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To: entropy12

Wow, common sense at last! Obviously you don’t belong here.


9 posted on 08/07/2021 12:10:36 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Be kind to each other, unless the other guy is a dumbass.)
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To: entropy12

According to my calculations, over a long enough time line, we all have a 100% chance of dying.


11 posted on 08/07/2021 12:11:34 PM PDT by BipolarBob (I thought I was being praised when the judge said my warrants were outstanding. But no.)
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To: entropy12

you have to base your number on the trust of the provided numbers.

I do not trust those numbers.


15 posted on 08/07/2021 12:14:19 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house.... But the fact checkers said the story was false!)
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To: entropy12

You may want to check this out first:
https://www.medscape.com/sites/public/covid-19/vaccine-insights/how-concerned-are-you-about-vaccine-related-adverse-events

Just posts from DR’s and people in the health care industry


19 posted on 08/07/2021 12:16:50 PM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: entropy12

If you are someone who is old, bad immune system, obese or suffer from 2-3 comorbidties (basically 99% of people who die of ‘covid’ fall in these groups) you might want to take the jab, and boosters forever. Only about 6000 people have died of covid alone(CDC numbers) vs 12000 (probably very under-reported) who have died of the jab...and we don’t know what are the long term damage these jabs are going to do to people 1, 2, 3 years from now...they are all guinea pigs unfortunately. For now I’m trusting my own immune system tested repeatedly for million of years. Good luck to us all.


24 posted on 08/07/2021 12:21:28 PM PDT by DHerion
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To: entropy12

“based on recent VAERS numbers”

You mean those manipulated by the CDC numbers?? VARES is no longer reliable.


31 posted on 08/07/2021 12:26:00 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm up! They Have!)
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To: entropy12

It is your decision, but you are now product. You will have to take every recommended update of the treatment. The odds of dying are less than half a percent. Sadly, some people do fall into that category.

Back to the story, I regret not getting yearly PSA testing, for personal reasons, and if I am in the hospital dying from Covid I may regret not taking the treatment. Human beings regret decisions every day. It is a weakness in our thinking. A person is better off making a decision and never regretting it. It doesn’t help you, it introduces confusion to your decision making, but it is a natural state of humanity.


37 posted on 08/07/2021 12:35:03 PM PDT by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: entropy12
That's your choice.

I'm not arguing one way or the other.

Just be aware the the VAERS data contains only a fraction of adverse events.

46 posted on 08/07/2021 12:39:10 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix circa 1984.)
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To: entropy12

So in your expert opinion, which vaccine do you think is best?


47 posted on 08/07/2021 12:39:30 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Identify As Vaccinated - non-injected.)
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To: entropy12

I agree with all of that, and made the same choice myself, based on my personal situation, and in consultation with my long-time physician.

But I would submit that the particulars of the yes or no to the vax are no longer the point. The massive threat is no longer the CCP virus, it’s the incredibly rapid, and global, spread of authoritarian measures like vaccine passports, endless bureaucratic mandates, and the overbearing use of ‘soft’ measures to enforce conformity.

That is some really dangerous stuff, and it’s kind of frustrating that FR is mired in endless debate about whether someone wants to take the vax or not. Not directed at you, just wanted to get that out.


57 posted on 08/07/2021 12:48:07 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: entropy12

I don’t know anyone personally that died of COVID-19 (50 or so I know that got it we’re mild cases or flu symptoms). However, I do know one the vaccine killed and another seriously injured.

This nonsense should stop, there are plenty dying on both sides of COVID. Hospitals are filling with both the vaccinated and not. A nurse I know said at least 30% of the hospitalizations are vaccinated. That is almost close to the vaccination / unvaccinated population in the area.

The vaccine appears useless against the spread. Its only purpose is to lessen symptoms. Then why? There are better therapeutics with side effects that don’t cause lasting damage and death. Vaccine pushers are insane, push the safe treatments.


62 posted on 08/07/2021 12:49:41 PM PDT by BushCountry (thinks he needs a gal whose name doesn't end in ".jpg")
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To: entropy12

Good call. Congrats!


68 posted on 08/07/2021 12:53:29 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: entropy12

About the same as COVID?


69 posted on 08/07/2021 12:55:09 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: entropy12

What are your chances of dying from the covid w/o the jab?


72 posted on 08/07/2021 1:08:48 PM PDT by bray (Hating Whites is racist)
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To: entropy12


Mis-information.

The VAERS system is a voluntary reporting system.

Add to that fact that historically, according to a study by I believe a couple of Harvard students, less than 1% of events surrounding each vaccine are recorded.

Add to that fact that Big Pharma and the Media and the Democrats and the Hospital will do everything to cover up the deaths associated with the COVID-19 vaccines to keep the money train going and to keep control of the sheeple.

Just taking those salient facts into consideration, any fool can see you made a bad decision.
73 posted on 08/07/2021 1:09:19 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: entropy12
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You cannot trust the CDC. It's akin to trusting elections.

74 posted on 08/07/2021 1:09:48 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: entropy12

Unfortunately, I think you’re in the wrong crowd here.


108 posted on 08/07/2021 2:12:52 PM PDT by TexasKamaAina (There are no solutions. There are only tradeoffs. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: entropy12

The Vaers numbers cannot be trusted.


112 posted on 08/07/2021 2:34:32 PM PDT by dforest (huh)
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To: entropy12

Post again in 2 years

Maybe?


113 posted on 08/07/2021 2:40:05 PM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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To: entropy12

Well good for you

Previous vaccines having a tenth of that risk were pulled from the market by the FDA, but what do you know.


120 posted on 08/07/2021 3:15:15 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hates:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifie)
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