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Electric 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E Outsold the Regular Mustang in June
The Drive ^ | 07/03/2021 | James Gilboy

Posted on 07/03/2021 10:15:30 AM PDT by ScubaDiver

The Ford Mustang Mach-E just keeps gaining steam as the year goes on.

We all knew it was coming—the day Ford would sell more of an electric car than it would its iconic Mustang. That day is here, and it's all the more painful for those who are V8 diehards. The reason why, exactly, is because the EV in question is the one that inherited the Mustang's name: the Mach-E.

First confirmed in Ford's June sales report Friday morning, then observed by Automotive News' Michael Martinez on Twitter, the 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E outsold its pony car namesake last month, moving 2,465 units to the normal Mustang's 2,240. The combustion-engined model, however, still leads the Mach-E in total sales this year, having managed 31,950 to the EV's 12,975 in 2021.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Travel
KEYWORDS: automotive; ev; ford; mustang
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To: Psychedelic-Surrealist Artist

“...that is NOT A MUSTANG!”

I guess under the new determination of what it is by our government it is an electric car, parts from China, assembled in Mexico. You can safely say it is not an American car in any way.

Changan Ford Automobile Corporation, Ltd. is a 50-50 Chinese joint venture between Ford Motor Company and China’s state-owned Chongqing Changan Automobile Company, Ltd., one of China’s four biggest auto manufacturers. The company produces and distributes Ford-branded vehicles in China.

In 2016, Ford stated to shift all North American small-car production from the U.S. to Mexico according to CEO Mark Fields. Ford currently has two factories in Mexico, producing around 400,000 cars per year, at Hermosillo and Cuautitlán, mostly for export to US and Canada.

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41 posted on 07/03/2021 12:26:36 PM PDT by whitney69 (uin )
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To: Steven Tyler
"Solar runs at zero capacity overnight.....

No, it's the reverse-- since solar has zero nighttime capacity, that zero capacity is always 100% used.

Regardless, you have the right idea.

42 posted on 07/03/2021 12:51:11 PM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: Renfrew; foundedonpurpose
“Can someone help me understand how the are going to get the extra electrical generation for all of the required charging of said vehicles”


"The useful thing is the amount of new generating capacity required if the whole country move to EVs is essentially zero."


My home solar is quite large and my battery storage is usually enough to make it through the night. That said, I don't have enough power generation or storage to take on the additional power in the day to later charge an EV when I get home in the evening. Although if EV's keep improving I might one day upgrade the system.


Even still, I need a gas powered car in the family too for when we go on long trips and such. My take on EV's are they're good for some things if you already have a certain scenario (in my case I have extra solar power half the year that I'm not consuming and could enjoy that going into something useful like an EV). But they can't totally replace gas cars.


And don't get me started on Ford having the audacity to refer to that grandmother's car looking hybrid as a Mustang!

43 posted on 07/03/2021 1:53:29 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Psychedelic-Surrealist Artist
"I don’t care what they call it, that is NOT A MUSTANG!"

My Jeep identifies as a Lamborghini.

44 posted on 07/03/2021 1:58:11 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Renfrew
The future potential of electrified vehicles comes up all the time in my field of work. I have had conversations about this “plenty of nighttime grid capacity” angle, and I just don’t see how it makes any sense at all. While it’s true that overnight periods may be the most popular for fully recharging EV batteries, there is simply far too much variability in motorist habits to build that kind of expectation into the grid capacity needs. I suspect most Americans will have no interest in EVs unless there is widespread availability of charging capacity in three particular places:

1. where they work
2. where they shop and/or dine outside the home
3. along the routes where they travel for vacation/leisure

EV charging in these three places will be done mostly during peak daytime hours.

45 posted on 07/03/2021 2:00:38 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Renfrew
You are not getting the “time” part of this equation but don't feel bad because almost nobody gets this part...

I can fill up my F150 in 8 minutes and drive 777 miles (36 gallon tank). There is no way the EV industry will ever be able to match this safely.

EV charging stations on every corner? A mid-sized gas station prolly uses a 3phase 480volt 200amp service - 400amps if there is a convenience store attached. To provide the power for a Tesla type supercharging station is 3000amps at 13,800 volts. Even then if too many cars are charging the available power is cut to each vehicle, thus increasing the “time” factor.

The grid will never be able to expand fast enough. And there will be a high tension tower on every corner for the feed. Don't get me started on the issues with increasing underground feeder sizes.

46 posted on 07/03/2021 2:27:13 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: MrLucky1966

A very pretty vehicle in Pro Stoc drag trom. They could sell millions of 1970 body Mustangs, but they won’t make them. First company that makes a full size pickup at sedan ride height equipped with proper suspension will clean house.


47 posted on 07/03/2021 2:32:10 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789! )
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To: Nuc 1.1

“They could sell millions of 1970 body Mustangs, but they won’t make them.”

True. Volkswagen makes new Beetles with dog bowl hub caps and they are very popular in So Cal, along with Chargers, Challengers, Mustangs, Camaros and F-150’s. I seen two E-Mustangs and they are boring.


48 posted on 07/03/2021 3:03:11 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson.)
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To: ScubaDiver

Just remember Ford sold a butt-load more 1958 Thunderbirds (the ones with the backseat) than they ever sold in 1955, 1956 or 1957; the classic two-seater models.

So ask yourself which one would you rather have today?


49 posted on 07/03/2021 3:15:26 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food. )
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To: ScubaDiver

Maybe the numbers are like that because you can’t find a regular Mustang on a dealer’s lot


50 posted on 07/03/2021 3:22:29 PM PDT by Lyndal
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To: 1FreeAmerican

“I can fill up my F150 in 8 minutes and drive 777 miles (36 gallon tank). There is no way the EV industry will ever be able to match this safely.”

I agree, this is the major limit on EVs and the one thing that might stop them from replacing gas powered cars.

There are two markets where charging time doesn’t matter much and EVs will do well:

*Fleet vehicles - for big operators like Amazon and the Post Office EVs being cheaper to fuel and maintain will drive their adoption
*Cool vehicles - If the goal of your car is to go fast and impress girls a Tesla Plaid is what you want today.


51 posted on 07/03/2021 3:44:37 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: Renfrew

52 posted on 07/03/2021 4:32:44 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Lyndal

According to Autotrader, there are roughly the same exact number of Mustangs and Mustang Mach-Es for sale in the US today; 1,750, give or take 25.

Production for both models has been impeded by the global chip shortage.


53 posted on 07/03/2021 7:41:35 PM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: dangus

More like a crossover.

54 posted on 07/04/2021 6:06:32 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: MrLucky1966

My first car. $1995 off the lot, Freudian Gilt.


55 posted on 07/04/2021 6:09:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice)
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To: Psychedelic-Surrealist Artist

Yeah…..just no.


56 posted on 07/04/2021 6:26:11 AM PDT by sheana
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To: Tell It Right

Regards and thank you for your thoughts!


57 posted on 07/04/2021 10:01:12 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: Psychedelic-Surrealist Artist

I don’t care what they call it it’s a Ford I’ll keep my Maxwell thank you.


58 posted on 07/04/2021 10:24:02 AM PDT by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: Pollard

From that angle, it looks like a hatchback. Much more stylish but not profoundly different in shape than my Prius (which I’d never consider a crossover, but I suppose it is because you can fold the seats down and create a station-wagon-like-but-smaller area in the back.


59 posted on 07/04/2021 10:47:17 AM PDT by dangus
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