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COVID-19 Vaccine Linked to Another Rare Blood Disease: Israeli Study; But Researchers stress that the study shouldn't deter people from getting the vaccine
Epoch Times ^ | 06/22/2021 | Jack Phillips

Posted on 06/22/2021 9:13:03 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Israeli researchers on Monday said that they discovered a link between Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine and a rare blood disease called thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura (TTP).

Scientists with the Institute of Hematology at Shamir Medical Center said they began researching the possible link after reports of a sudden increase in TTP across Israel.

The team said they discovered a “chronological connection” between when the Pfizer shot was administered to the patient and the onset of symptoms of the blood disease. They said that four cases were detected.

“Physicians and patients need to be alert to the clinical symptoms: weakness fatigue, neurological disorders, hemorrhage and chest pain,” the Institute of Hematology at Shamir Medical Center told The Jerusalem Post.

A spokesperson from the facility told the paper that the study is very small and should not deter individuals from getting the COVID-19 vaccine, and they added that Israelis who haven’t received the vaccine should still get inoculated.

The researchers also noted there were four cases of TTP detected in one month as opposed to two to three TPP cases normally reported per year.

The Israeli Ministry of Health is currently reviewing the team’s findings, they said.

According to the U.S. National Library of Medicine, TTP is a rare disorder that causes blood clots to form in small blood vessels in the body.

“These clots can cause serious medical problems if they block vessels and restrict blood flow to organs such as the brain, kidneys, and heart,” the federal agency says on its website. “Complications resulting from these clots can include neurological problems (such as personality changes, headaches, confusion, and slurred speech), fever, abnormal kidney function, abdominal pain, and heart problems.

The Epoch Times has contacted the Israeli Ministry of Health and Pfizer for comment.

On June 1, Israel’s Health Ministry reported that it discovered a small number of heart inflammation cases, known as myocarditis, observed mainly in young men who received Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine, saying it was likely linked to their inoculation.

A U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) committee on Wednesday is slated to discuss rare cases of myocarditis among young people who received the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines. The agency was supposed to hold the emergency discussion last week but it was postponed.

It came about a month after the CDC said it was investigating several dozen cases of the rare heart inflammation.

The reports of myocarditis have been mostly in adolescents and young adults—and are more likely to occur in males. The symptoms also show up after the second dose, about four days after vaccination, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices said in a statement dated May 17.



TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: blooddisease; covid19; israel; vaccine
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To: SeekAndFind
Let’s say 300,000 of them were coded wrongly, does that diminish the seriousness of the disease?

The mis-coded numbers are higher than 300,000 and yes it does diminish the seriousness of the disease. We don't quarantine healthy people and lock down economies for the yearly flu.

We also don't force injections of a life-altering experimental treatment on people for the seasonal flu.

41 posted on 06/23/2021 4:23:07 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: T.B. Yoits

RE: The mis-coded numbers are higher than 300,000

On what basis do we know this?


42 posted on 06/23/2021 4:54:23 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
It's fine. Just take your jab.


43 posted on 06/23/2021 5:03:55 AM PDT by Pollard
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To: alexander_busek

RE: I have made absolutely no attempt to provide you with the estimate you have requested. That’s because I’m not an epidemiologist.

Well then, the only source I can refer to is still the official CDC source since they do have epidemiologists on their team. I can appreciate your not wanting to simply grab a random number out of thin air, but simply telling me their numbers are wrong doesn’t cut it.

I can’t go by this reasoning: “Because I say so, therefore it must be so.”

You ask me to do my research, well here’s a number the CDC has shown.... EXCESS DEATHS from 2020 to 2021 versus the average of the previous 5 years.

If their Covid numbers are humongously ( EMPHASIS on humongously ) wrong, I would expect the number of deaths from every cause to be close to the 5 year average. Yet, the excess deaths for the pass year exceed the previous 5 year average by over 400,000.

What factor accounts for this huge number?


44 posted on 06/23/2021 5:28:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: alexander_busek

Here are the CDC Numbers. Now please tell me what’s wrong with the data:

Number of deaths in the US in 2018: 2,839,205 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm)
Number of deaths in the US in 2019: 2,854,838 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db395.htm)
Number of deaths in the US in 2020: 3,389,700 (https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/COVID19/index.htm)

So in 2020, there was an increase of 534,862 total deaths. You’ll notice that from 2018 to 2019, there was a 0.5% increase in total deaths in the United States. The normal range is 0.3% - 0.7%. In 2020, there was an 18.7% increase over 2019. That’s unheard of outside of incredibly extreme situations. Like World War II.


45 posted on 06/23/2021 5:32:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: mewzilla

Well, we know the CDC has been caught lying so I wouldn’t trust their stats, for sure.


46 posted on 06/23/2021 6:06:45 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: Jane Long

I don’t trust a damn thing that they write or say.... nothing.


47 posted on 06/23/2021 6:41:52 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: zzeeman

Ditto. They’ve lost any credibility they may have ever had.

Quoting them is like quoting FRAUDci or XiDen. Useless.


48 posted on 06/23/2021 6:51:00 AM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation 🙏🏻🇺🇸)
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To: SeekAndFind
If their Covid numbers are humongously ( EMPHASIS on humongously ) wrong, I would expect the number of deaths from every cause to be close to the 5 year average. Yet, the excess deaths for the pass year exceed the previous 5 year average by over 400,000. What factor accounts for this huge number?

Do these "official figures" also account for the 11 million illegal aliens that have allegedly been in this country since that immutable figure was first announced, back in 2003? Or is it 25 million? Or maybe 33 million?

Unless we can first agree on how many people (incl. illegal aliens) are in this country, it seems pretty pointless to me to debate about (apparent) mere hundreds of thousands of excess deaths.

Regards,

49 posted on 06/23/2021 8:57:21 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long; zzeeman; Pollard; T.B. Yoits
So in 2020, there was an increase of 534,862 total deaths.

Those are mighty precise numbers for a government that has been insisting, since 2003, that there are still only exactly 11 million illegal aliens in this country.

Regards,

50 posted on 06/23/2021 9:08:02 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

Very good point!


51 posted on 06/23/2021 10:47:38 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: alexander_busek; Jane Long; zzeeman

Don’t equate the CDC with the Immigration department.

If we can’t even accept the total death numbers of the CDC year by year, then what alternative source do we rely on?


52 posted on 06/23/2021 11:13:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: alexander_busek

RE: Unless we can first agree on how many people (incl. illegal aliens) are in this country, it seems pretty pointless to me to debate about (apparent) mere hundreds of thousands of excess deaths.

Counting deaths in the USA is not like counting the number of illegals. The former can be determined with relatively better precision than the latter.

Deaths year by year are reported via hospitals, funeral parlors, police, law enforcement etc.t

Illegals? It is difficult to track numbers when you don’t know how many have crossed the border or even gone back without them informing ICE. We also have sanctuary cities everywhere that refuse to cooperate with the immigration department.

The nature and difficulty of tracking is not the same. I believe the CDC numbers are much more accurate than immigration. The reason why the CDC can report death numbers without rounding is because they rely on REPORTED DATA.


53 posted on 06/23/2021 11:23:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: 2aProtectsTheRest
In short, where COVID-19 is listed on the last line of Section 32 Part I of a US Standard Certificate of Death, COVID
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If that response was your idea of short, I'd hate to see long.

I actually was going from memory on total deaths of some numbers that I had seen before the end of the year. I think it may have been May or June. My post was not meant to be a definitive declaration.

And I know perfectly well about birth certificates, cause of death, and contributing factors, as I had to bury both my parents and take care of their funerals and estate settlements.

54 posted on 06/23/2021 11:30:03 AM PDT by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jane Long; zzeeman; Pollard; T.B. Yoits
I believe the CDC numbers are much more accurate than immigration.

But the Government doesn't admit that its "official figures" on illegals are less accurate than its "official figures" on deaths. Rather, it flatly states "11 million" - not "11 million, give or take 10 million" or "11 million, but perhaps as many as 30 million" - a figure that it has not deigned to revise or update in 18 years.

Secondly, even if we were to stipulate that mortality has increased - how are we to know if that increased mortality can be attributed chiefly to COVID? Perhaps it was in fact due primarily to LOCKDOWN measures.

Regards,

55 posted on 06/23/2021 12:18:57 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek

RE:But the Government doesn’t admit that its “official figures” on illegals are less accurate than its “official figures” on deaths. Rather, it flatly st ates “11 million” -

Again, the CDC and Immigration are two different departments with two different levels of difficulty in gathering data.

One (deaths in the country) is less difficult to gather than the other. For one, there is RESISTANCE from many liberal local governments in providing such information to immigration. We do not see such non-cooperation when it comes to reporting deaths.


56 posted on 06/23/2021 1:18:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: alexander_busek

RE: even if we were to stipulate that mortality has increased - how are we to know if that increased mortality can be attributed chiefly to COVID? Perhaps it was in fact due primarily to LOCKDOWN measures

OK, before we drill down into what the major factors are that are the cause of these increase in mortality, can we first agree that THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN MORTALITY compared to the average of previous years? If we can’t even agree on this, then we can’t even presume to determine the major factors behind the mortality increase.


57 posted on 06/23/2021 1:28:30 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind; alexander_busek
It is not healthy nor wise to believe in any fedgov "figures" (regardless of department). Just my perspective on the matter, YMMV...
58 posted on 06/23/2021 11:31:37 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality." )
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To: alexander_busek

The feds have reported a significant increase in the number of deaths for 2020. You suggested this could be Covid and/or lockdowns as reasons.

Three other reasons occur to me as possibilities. One is an increase in population. I doubt there was a spike in births or people attaining some magical age at which mortality spikes. I also doubt there was a spike in immigration or illegal invasion.

A second reason would be a decline in medical care. While that seems possible, I think we’d be hearing more stories or studies if that was significant (I do think it may be a problem going forward.)

Saving the best for last, could the increase be a change in reporting? Are illegal invaders’ deaths now being reported, where they weren’t in the past? Alternatively, could the feds just be making numbers up? Would it surprise me if they did?

If anyone has any ideas on how I could check the number of deaths, I’d appreciate it. Would be willing to do some legwork.


59 posted on 06/24/2021 10:34:56 AM PDT by Tymesup
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To: SeekAndFind
If we can’t even agree on this, then we can’t even presume to determine the major factors behind the mortality increase.

I agree that we can't agree!

Regards,

60 posted on 06/24/2021 10:43:11 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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