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Expert says cop was justified in pinning down George Floyd
Associated Press ^ | April 13, 2021 | Amy Forliti, Steve Karnowski and Tammy Webber

Posted on 04/13/2021 1:11:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Former Officer Derek Chauvin was justified in pinning George Floyd to the ground because of his frantic resistance, a use-of-force expert testified for the defense Tuesday, contradicting a parade of authorities from both inside and outside the Minneapolis Police Department.

Taking the stand at Chauvin’s murder trial, Barry Brodd, a former Santa Rosa, California, police officer, said officers don’t have to wait for something bad to happen; they need only to have a reasonable fear that there’s a threat and then adjust their actions accordingly.

“It’s easy to sit and judge … an officer’s conduct. It’s more of a challenge to, again, put yourself in the officer’s shoes to try to make an evaluation through what they’re feeling, what they’re sensing, the fear they have, and then make a determination,” Brodd said.

He also said he didn’t believe Chauvin and the other officers used deadly force when they pinned Floyd on his stomach, with his hands cuffed behind his back and Chauvin’s knee on his neck or neck area for what prosecutors say was 9½ minutes. …

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Local News
KEYWORDS: amyforliti; associatedpress; barrybrodd; blackkk; california; chauvintrial; deadlyforce; derekchauvin; georgefloyd; minneapolis; minnesota; santarosa; stevekarnowski; tammywebber; useofforce
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1 posted on 04/13/2021 1:11:06 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

To the Left = #mindblown


2 posted on 04/13/2021 1:12:25 PM PDT by cranked
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Food deserts imminent


3 posted on 04/13/2021 1:12:42 PM PDT by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: Olog-hai

He was resisting so yeah, that’s what you do. But for over 9 minutes is what makes it tricky I guess. If he pinned him for a couple of minutes and let up and he OD’d and died would there be a trial.


4 posted on 04/13/2021 1:13:26 PM PDT by glimmerman70
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To: Olog-hai
contradicting a parade of authorities from both inside and outside the Minneapolis Police Department.

They State's own use-of-force expert that they paid $13k for, who is a black guy, agreed when the defense crossed on the stand.

5 posted on 04/13/2021 1:14:22 PM PDT by Pollard ( )
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To: Olog-hai
or neck area

Uh-huh.

6 posted on 04/13/2021 1:15:01 PM PDT by Jim Noble (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: Olog-hai

I hope this expert has his own protection brigade with him.


7 posted on 04/13/2021 1:15:02 PM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: Olog-hai

One less POS off the street that can’t breed anymore either.

Drug overdose death who was in piss poor health.

His loss is a gain for society.


8 posted on 04/13/2021 1:15:20 PM PDT by maddog55 ((the only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!))
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To: maddog55

“His loss is a gain for society.”

That is the brutal truth.


9 posted on 04/13/2021 1:17:09 PM PDT by brownsfan (Term limits! Without term limits, we are doomed.)
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To: Olog-hai

It is easy to second guess cops and I am more guilty than most.

Chauvin was man on the spot. He was under threat from the local wildlife, with a resisting perp who was dying from an overdose. I don’t know what he could of done better.

I guess the next headline will be “Expert says State justified in Railroading Chauvin.”


10 posted on 04/13/2021 1:18:25 PM PDT by Little Ray (Corporations don't pay taxes. They collect them.)
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To: cranked

It was inevitable that the parties would each put “experts” on the stand.

“Experts” are the bane of meaningful trials.


11 posted on 04/13/2021 1:18:35 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: Jim Noble

The language manipulation is a real pain in the neck area.


12 posted on 04/13/2021 1:18:49 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

If Mr. Barry Brodd is a white, ex-cop, expert on police restraint, it won’t matter what he says.

The bottom line to me is the guy died from an overdose of drugs and the physical exertion he brought on to himself from fighting the cops. For that the family was paid $27 million.


13 posted on 04/13/2021 1:22:13 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve been trained in use of force as a police officer in a saner age. Additional factors ramp up the level of force that can justifiably be used. Some of these factors elude most people, but are highly logical if you think rationally about it. Size/strength differences between the perp and the officer is one (check). Extended duration of the episode due to the subject resisting (check). Environment that could potentially become hostile (check).

Chauvin was actually very restrained and conservative in the amount of force used against Floyd. Considering Floyd dickered around for several minutes without fully complying was on him completely.


14 posted on 04/13/2021 1:22:32 PM PDT by fwdude (Pass up too many hills to die on, and you will eventually fall off the edge of the world.)
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To: dsrtsage

The ferals started last night.


15 posted on 04/13/2021 1:24:23 PM PDT by sauropod (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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He needs to serve some time.


16 posted on 04/13/2021 1:24:57 PM PDT by TakebackGOP
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To: Olog-hai
Former Officer Derek Chauvin was justified in pinning George Floyd to the ground because of his frantic resistance, a use-of-force expert testified for the defense Tuesday, contradicting a parade of authorities from both inside and outside the Minneapolis Police Department.

Of course a totally biased opening line. Every single one of the "authorities" was essentially shredded by the defense on cross. The defense got them to admit that Chauvin was justified AND correct in the how he restrained him.

17 posted on 04/13/2021 1:27:14 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Olog-hai

“The language manipulation is a real pain in the neck area.”

Maybe a little lower.


18 posted on 04/13/2021 1:29:26 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Olog-hai

>>Former Officer Derek Chauvin was justified in pinning George Floyd to the ground because of his frantic resistance, a use-of-force expert testified for the defense Tuesday, contradicting a parade of authorities from both inside and outside the Minneapolis Police Department.<<

Is burnlootmurder rioting yet?


19 posted on 04/13/2021 1:30:43 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (No matter what, resist and stop the agenda of blow bidet and hairass the whore)
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To: fwdude
No one knows the REAL force...but there were no bruises on his back, shoulders....anywhere.....and remember, he was only on the ground because he refused to get in the police car....screaming that he couldn't breathe....seems to be a favorite phrase used to try to back the cops off.

They say because the cops toe wasn't touching the ground...on the leg that was doing the restraining...Chauvin was using about 91 lbs of pressure. That's ridiculous. Chauvin's weight was on his other leg. Try it...

The guy was a druggie, probably a dealer and gosh knows what else.

And he wasn't turning his life around. Full-fledged criminal.

20 posted on 04/13/2021 1:33:28 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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