Posted on 04/10/2021 10:47:38 AM PDT by week 71
There appears to be a growing dispute regarding reasons to hesitate taking the CV-19 vaccines. Many from Dr. Michael Yeardon's angle (who does not believe in immune escape) advise to not take the vaccine since there appears to be something sinister in the motives of people promoting it. While on the other side, there are many who pay attention to Dr. Geert Vanden Bossche who believes the vaccine is excellent, but due to inevitable immune escape, they will be ruining their immune system in fighting future Corona Viruses (I think that is an accurate interpretation). Both seem to be qualified doctors to give their opinions and not some clown in their parents basement making monetized fear videos.
I am not a scientist, but like being informed from many doctors' opinions with all sides. Any Freepers have input about these gentlemen? Welcome input from folks pro-vaccine as well.
I figured if everybody is going to turn into zombies it will be best to fit in. Just like Bill Murry in Zombi Land.
> I think Dr Yeardon may be going through a spiritual conversion. <
Or he may simply be wrong. Or he may have an axe to grind with one or more pharmaceutical companies. What a mess!
I am, to a small extent, influenced by the fact that Trump ordered ‘Operation Warp Speed’ to get Americans vaccinated as soon as possible. Trump is a smart guy. But as others have pointed out, he’s not a biochemist.
I sure wish I could find my Magic 8-Ball. Maybe I could get some guidance from it.
Owoooooo....
“there appears to be something sinister in the motives of people promoting it”
Exactly and it could just be a matter of Big Pharma having a ton of influence but the ‘jabs’ don’t seem to be any more effective then the therapeutics like HCQ, Ivermectin, nebulized hydrogen peroxide etc.
For the several months while vaccines were still being developed and manufactured, many doctors successfully treated covid with existing, low cost methods that they figured out on their own using their training and experience.
Now TPTB want EVERYONE to get the jab including kids who are barely affected if at all by covid.
I simply won’t partake in this massive money making scheme or whatever scheme it is.
Maybe it’s about collecting personal data and tracking everyone. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/04/global-trace-and-track-regime-michelle-malkin/
Maybe it’s about something more nefarious.
I try my best not to shop at conglomerates like amazon/walmart. I try to avoid china junk. I quit all the big tech social networks. We buy off brand as much as possible. This vaccine is a similar situation. Big Pharma is too big so I’m not going to help them grow bigger.
That and I don’t fully trust it just like I don’t trust that something I buy at walmart is going to last. And lo and behold, now their saying we might have to get a yearly jab, ‘magine that.
Then of course there is the Great Reset thing.
“They totally believe the science”
Ben Bergquam on Real America’s Voice said something like when it comes to Democrats “science” = “politics”. There’s actual science, and then there’s RAT science, which isn’t.
I’m at high risk for any infections, so I guess I’m screwed coming and going.
So what “science” is a body to believe?
@ 64 It may be fair to apply your comment to both doctor’s reasons to not get take the injection.
CovidPatientTreatmentGuide.pdf (aapsonline.org)
Also, here's Dr. Zelenko's Covid-19 protocol, which can be comprised of either prescription medications or from OTC remedies.
Zelenko Treatment Protocol - Google Docs
Zelenko Covid-19 Prophylaxis Protocol - Google Docs
Deaths severe illnesses are also decreasing because people are simply purchasing both an online medical appointment and the HCQ/AZ/zinc protocol medications at the following link. I don't think the price is firm (may vary) but one FReeper said they paid about $150 total).
https://speakwithanmd.com/americasfrontlinedoctors/
Those who obtained prescription for the Zelenko protocol or Ivermectin, but can't get a pharmacy to fill it because bureaucrats have seized control of our medical system can still purchase both Ivermectin and the HCQ medications at this online pharmacy.
Buy Prescription Medicines From Online Pharmacy Store | AllDayChemist
Just told my wife to get in touch with her doctor(I don't have one) and ask her what her treatment plan would be if my wife got covid. Good thing to know ahead of time. Being that we're in cattle country, I wouldn't be too surprised if she came back with Ivermectin, vitamins A, C, D and Zinc. If she says HCQ along with the same vitamins that would be fine too. Azythromicin also. Both have been used very effectively and have less chance of side effects than these vaccines and the side effects are well known on the meds compared to the vaccines. Eighteen countries halted the AstraZeneca vaccine due to the side effect of blood clots, a deadly side effect unknown until people started dying. Insanity.
Remain hesitant.
People are racing, trampling and elbowing each other to get this experimental, unauthorized and unlicensed vaccine for a disease that won’t kill you unless you are half dead. It’s also avoidable and treatable with simple products and healthy immune systems. How many died because of respirators?
So many unanswered questions! Too many sinister political factors driving this.
“there appears to be something sinister in the motives of people promoting it.”
Today I saw two different professionally produced TV ads pushing the virus. There are little cartoon coronavirus creatures, which are supposed to be cute or something, I guess. And cartoon syringes. Pushing hard to mess you with your mind — if you have a weak mind.
If a person thinks he wants to get the shot, I’m sure he has considered the pros and cons. It’s not as if nobody has heard of the virus and/or the vaccines. TV ads rubbing your face in “you must get the vaccine” are unnecessary.
Absolutely disgusting. If people aren’t going to seriously consider science, they’re definitely going to listen to cartoon viruses, right? [s]
It’s unfortunate but I just cannot trust TPTB anymore. Half of what they call science is not science or it is manipulated data, and more than half of what they say are either outright lies or manipulative half-truths. Stories are buried, censored and/or social media banished. Now they are telling us that math, logic and reasoning are symbols of racist oppression. It’s madness.
To this topic I’ll just repeat myself, if this were really such a horrible threat to humanity they would have pulled out all the stops searching for a treatment. Instead they pulled drugs off the pharmacy shelves. Makes absolutely no sense. So here we see number of deaths on the TV every day, but I am forced to be skeptical how much of that is really death by covid vs how much of it was death with covid. To the degree that they are lamenting the numbers of people who are refusing or reluctant to get the vaccine they really only have themselves to blame.
The vaccines are not FDA approved. A buddy of mine took the 1st shot and his face swelled up and he couldn’t use his arm for 3 days. The key to this fighting this is building up your immunity. Vit D3, C, Zinc and Magnesium for the rest of your life. After 30 years, never a cold, never the flu. Build up the immune system. Doesn’t matter how old you are, buy suppliments and even on the outside chance you get it, it will be so weak you will blow it off in a couple days.
I’ve been making sure I get outside and get plenty of sun. God’s source of vitamin D has to be the best.
They only test for immunoglobulin G and M.
G positive and M negative shows you have been exposed and are over it.
G pos and M pos shows you might still be contagious.
G neg M neg shows you have no immunity.
@70 I received my prescription for these meds many weeks ago from a link at Americas Frontline Doctors. Nice having this around as a treatment if I ever manifest symptoms. Cheers!
they can’t just change the protocols at whim and call it “science”.
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And yet they did just that. I better stop. I’ve written a few paragraphs and deleted. This is a hydra with a lot of moving parts and very little truth/science involved.
Agree! Particularly from September to April.
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