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the mRNA shots are not legally, or medically, "vaccines" - you are being lied to deliberately
https://leohohmann.com/2021/03/12/heres-why-mrna-injections-do-not-meet-the-legal-definition-of-vaccine/ ^

Posted on 03/14/2021 10:12:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

if you dont read the link, heres the key points:

“This is an mRNA, packaged in a fat envelope, delivered to a cell. This is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.”

“...under CDC and FDA standards, a vaccine specifically has to stimulate, both an immunity within the person receiving it but it also has to disrupt transmission. And that’s not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand going into the cell is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: antivaxxnuts; cdc; clickbait; deepstate; dh; fda; foolsforfauci; frflatearthers; getagrip; mrna; mrnavaccines; qooks; satansmedicine; secretnutcase; snakeoil
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To: Secret Agent Man

“white house press sec Jen Psaki has lied on video to people saying this has been fully tested, and that it is fda-approved”

Hey, she has a BA in English and Sociology.


41 posted on 03/15/2021 12:09:47 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: mrsmith

Read it for yourself. This guy has worked on vaccine projects with several pharmaceutical companies plus the Bill Gates Foundation.


42 posted on 03/15/2021 12:17:15 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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To: Safrguns

Careful, your critical thinking skills are showing.


43 posted on 03/15/2021 12:18:12 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: Secret Agent Man
It's interesting how communists, pedophiles, Deep State Cabalists, and other globalists creeps are the ones pushing this Satanic cocktail the hardest.

Meanwhile, normal people (those of us with a brain, anyway) are rightfully skeptical once the facts are reviewed.

1.) This experimental garbage was rushed through with absolutely no validity, testing, or otherwise reliability rating.

2.) You are absolutely DISALLOWED to take legal action against anyone (corporate creator, government agent, or any other person connected to its dissemination) related to this garbage through a corporate-government order. Even if the person dies or suffers permanent impairment as the direct result of injecting this poisonous crap.

3.) There is no one, who can be taken seriously anyway, who has proven this crap is totally effective at stopping the spread/infection of this scamdemic.

44 posted on 03/15/2021 12:19:01 AM PDT by Prole ( )
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To: libh8er

Did you read the entire article I referenced? He is NOT an anti-vaxxer.


45 posted on 03/15/2021 12:19:56 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing);)
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To: Secret Agent Man

The same situation occurs after taking the measles vaccination. The vaccine creates antibodies that attacks the measles virus after it enters the body. However, this attack is not faster than the measles virus that enters the cell and takes over the machinery of the ribosomes to produce new measles viruses. During that time, the troops are coming but not before the virus is able to shed out through the respiratory system. Because the measles virus does not reproduce at any high level, the viral load that is shed is so low, that people are not likely to be infected. This window of opportunity for the measles virus is made very short because of the antibodies created by the measles vaccine.

COVID-19 takes over the machinery of the ribosomes and reproduces a tremendous load of new viruses very quickly. A vaccinated person may shed enough viruses to infect others before the antibody troops round them up.

Yes, the mRNA vaccine is a vaccine.


46 posted on 03/15/2021 12:21:08 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
the fda and cdc defined it themselves for gods sake

using their own dam terms man

read

Read what? Provide a citation. I don't have time to read the entire United States code along with every page of the CDC and FDA websites and all of their published regulations to find your definition.

I have spent too much time chasing other people's definitions only to find they are incomplete or misleading.

From https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/terms/glossary.html

Vaccine: a suspension of live (usually attenuated) or inactivated microorganisms (e.g. bacteria or viruses) or fractions thereof administered to induce immunity and prevent infectious diseases and their sequelae. Some vaccines contain highly defined antigens (e.g., the polysaccharide of Haemophilus influenzae type b or the surface antigen of hepatitis B); others have antigens that are complex or incompletely defined (e.g. Bordetella pertussis antigens or live attenuated viruses).

No reference to preventing transmission other than a general "prevent infectious diseases" and I would count the mRNA as "fractions thereof". And that's using their own damn terms, man. If you have a different legal definition I would be glad to read it.

47 posted on 03/15/2021 12:22:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Not really end of story sport. They tell us that even after the shot, we are just as capable of getting it, and spreading it as before, and must still wear masks, socially distance, etc. Biden basically said as much in his speech the other night.


48 posted on 03/15/2021 12:25:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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To: KarlInOhio

the author of the piece tells you the cdc/fda definition.

what is wrong with you, seriously?


49 posted on 03/15/2021 12:27:06 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jonrick46

no, mrna shots do not create the covid virus

it creates a protein, that triggers an immune response.

here is the cdc page explaining it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mrna.html

and as stated in the original article i posted, by their cdc/fda’s own definitions, this is not a vaccine.


50 posted on 03/15/2021 12:31:54 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DesertRhino
They tell us that even after the shot, we are just as capable of getting it, and spreading it as before, and must still wear masks, socially distance, etc. Biden basically said as much in his speech the other night.

They are full of crap. If the vaccines produce sufficient levels of antibodies against the COVID-19 virus - and the FDA, that most cautious of federal bureaucracies, says they do - then masks, social distancing, etc. are completely unnecessary.

And Biden...well, Biden is a senile fool.
51 posted on 03/15/2021 12:38:51 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Freedom56v2

Thank you for posting this...I have heard of this doc, but had not found his videos...
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One of these should help:
https://rumble.com/vek2vd-a-coming-covid-catastrophe.html

http://bit.ly/GeertV


52 posted on 03/15/2021 12:39:28 AM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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To: libh8er

It would take 2 weeks for IgG, but I have seen no evidence that the foreign viral m-RNA disintegrates.


53 posted on 03/15/2021 1:09:26 AM PDT by doc maverick
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To: Secret Agent Man

Don’t tell that to the Israelis. They have the largest real world study and the highest percentage vaccinated in the world they are just about at herd immunity levels and there cases are in mass decline. 95+% of hospital cases are now unvaccinated people. 94% effective against asymptomatic infection means 94% of people cannot pass it on if they are not infected at all and they found a higher rate against symptomatic infection. For the Israelis the Pfizer vaccine is going to end the pandemic for them and soon. They already have opened normal life back up for holders of a two dose card. Sorry antivax loons the Pfizer vax is working and it’s as effective in the real world as the vaccine that wiped smallpox off the face of the planet. Smallpox vax was also 95% at best. Again Israel has real world not lab numbers with the UK and SA variants present in Israel God bless the Israeli people and their land.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/11/pfizer-covid-vaccine-blocks-94percent-of-asymptomatic-infections-and-97percent-of-symptomatic-cases-in-israeli-study.html


54 posted on 03/15/2021 1:19:40 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: JD_UTDallas
Death Rates Skyrocket in Israel Following Pfizer Experimental COVID "Vaccines" (medicalkidnap.com)

Excerpt:

Mordechai Sones writes:

A front-page article appeared in the FranceSoir newspaper about findings on the Nakim website regarding what some experts are calling “the high mortality caused by the vaccine.”

The paper interviews Aix-Marseille University Faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Unit’s Dr. Hervé Seligmann and engineer Haim Yativ about their research and data analysis.

They claim that Pfizer’s shot causes “mortality hundreds of times greater in young people compared to mortality from coronavirus without the vaccine, and dozens of times more in the elderly, when the documented mortality from coronavirus is in the vicinity of the vaccine dose, thus adding greater mortality from heart attack, stroke, etc.”

Dr Hervé Seligmann works at the Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases Research Unit, Faculty of Medicine, Aix-Marseille University, Marseille, France. He is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality. He has a B. Sc. In Biology from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written over 100 scientific publications.

FranceSoir writes that they follow publications, data analyzes, and feedback from various countries on vaccination, and have therefore taken an interest in the Nakim article, asking to interview them in order to understand their analysis and its limitations.

The authors of the article declare they have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel.

After a presentation, the authors discussed their data analysis, the validations carried out, limitations, and above all, their conclusions that they compare with data received via a Health Ministry Freedom of Information Act request.

Their findings are:


55 posted on 03/15/2021 1:32:04 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Flaming Conservative

“Read it for yourself. This guy has worked on vaccine projects with several pharmaceutical companies plus the Bill Gates Foundation.”
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Well, ACCORDING TO HIM, he has. If he really has worked for all of them it means, for whatever reason, he had difficulty keeping a job. To me, he’s just ANOTHER GUY ON THE INTERNET SPREADING HYSTERIA.


56 posted on 03/15/2021 1:43:28 AM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Cowgirl

It really is stunning to see how stupid people ca be. What ever happened to:

“Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.”

For some that “twice” has evidently gone up to 487 times.


57 posted on 03/15/2021 1:45:01 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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To: Secret Agent Man

“it does nothing to prevent someone from infecting someone with covid”

Actually, it probably does. Part of why the COIVD panic was unjustified was that COVID is NOT transmitted asymptomatically. It can, in theory, but the best studies I’ve seen indicate no more than 1% of all transmission comes from asymptomatic people. Probably more like 0.5%.

A vaccine which reduces symptoms will almost certainly reduce transmission. And here is another dirty secret: COVID doesn’t transmit very easily. I’m now know 4 couples where one spouse caught it, and then quarantined in the same house with their spouse without the other spouse catching anything. While sharing a bed!

A study came out indicating that was normal - that only 10% of spouses caught it from the other spouse during quarantine.


58 posted on 03/15/2021 1:46:14 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: ransomnote

Yeah so vaccines carry risk. Look it up. The Small pox vaccine killed tens of thousands world wide what’s your point. Total deaths matter. Right now the CFR in the USA from John’s Hopkins University the world authority on endemic diseases is 1.8% for all ages and over 3% for the most at risk groups of age and comorbidity factors. Even granting every death in VAERS was caused by the vaccines the probability of death from one of the 3 approved versions is 0.0018% it’s a raw numbers game. I took the Pfizer version last week I’m a scientist a real one with a stack of degrees. I have access to EBSCO and scidirect and can read every scientific paper published world wide for free well so sponsored by my benefactors anyways I have access to real peer reviewed science data. Having read the Pfizer phase 1,2&3 study reports and papers I decided that a less than .002% chance of death was better than a 30+% change of hospitalization and a 3% chance of death from the virus that eventually I would be exposed too. Every single human on earth will be exposed at some point it’s endemic now. The overall hospitalization rate for 50+ with 2 or more comorbidities is above 30% no thanks I don’t want the $100 grand bill either. So looking at the science I said Pfizer was the smarter choice of the JnJ one was widely available I would have chosen that one due to its single dosing.


59 posted on 03/15/2021 2:08:46 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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To: Flaming Conservative

”He is NOT an anti-vaxxer”

Didn’t say he was. I was commenting on his prediction of ‘immune escape’.


60 posted on 03/15/2021 2:13:49 AM PDT by libh8er
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