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the mRNA shots are not legally, or medically, "vaccines" - you are being lied to deliberately
https://leohohmann.com/2021/03/12/heres-why-mrna-injections-do-not-meet-the-legal-definition-of-vaccine/ ^

Posted on 03/14/2021 10:12:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man

if you dont read the link, heres the key points:

“This is an mRNA, packaged in a fat envelope, delivered to a cell. This is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.”

“...under CDC and FDA standards, a vaccine specifically has to stimulate, both an immunity within the person receiving it but it also has to disrupt transmission. And that’s not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand going into the cell is not to stop transmission. It is a treatment.”


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Health/Medicine; Science; Society
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Note they admit it won’t stop people from transmitting covid to others. This totally destroys their argument for demanding people take this for other peoples’/societies’ sake.

Further white house press sec Jen Psaki has lied on video to people saying this has been fully tested, and that it is fda-approved. It has not been fully tested but has an experimental waiver, and it is not fda-approved at all.

1 posted on 03/14/2021 10:12:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Secret Agent Man

After all the lies and 2020 voter fraud you would think would not trust the government and anything to do with covid vaccines but people are really stupid.


2 posted on 03/14/2021 10:14:50 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: Secret Agent Man
The Government is lying to us and the media is helping to cover it up.

Did I get that right?

In other news, water is wet, etc.

3 posted on 03/14/2021 10:15:53 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (It seems the soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Pure idiocy for idiots.

The mRNA vaccine produces a defensive response to the ‘spike’ protein the Covid virus uses to infect cells.
The mRNA vaccine induces production of antibodies against the ‘spike’.

Whatever the faults of the vaccine, or really the health profession - which has us failed here- this is a valid “vaccine”.


4 posted on 03/14/2021 10:23:18 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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You don’t either read or cmprehend english well.

Its not a vaccine. Not by the legal or the CCD/FDA’s own definitions of what they consider a vaccine.

Clear as day.


5 posted on 03/14/2021 10:26:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: rllngrk33

there should be an uproar....the traditional media would have covered this 24/7.


6 posted on 03/14/2021 10:30:29 PM PDT by cherry (we are the Remnant)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Clear to me that you’re a fool.
But “you kooks have a ball” as we used to say...


7 posted on 03/14/2021 10:33:16 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Secret Agent Man

If the mRNA approach stimulates an immune response against the spike protein, how would that not disrupt transmission? Note that conventional vaccines, i.e. using deactivated virus particles, similarly promote an immune response against the coat proteins - and this somehow does disrupt transmission.


8 posted on 03/14/2021 10:34:44 PM PDT by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: Secret Agent Man

The big question is, what is anyone going to do about it?
Last I saw in the news seventy million people are considered insurrectionists, conspiracy theorist racists, anti vaxers and racists.


9 posted on 03/14/2021 10:38:02 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Secret Agent Man

http://bit.ly/GeertV


10 posted on 03/14/2021 10:39:50 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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To: mrsmith
Fauci on the spot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqrZOgV4ZTQ

Apparently "vaccine" won't necessarily stop a person from transmitting....all it's apparently good for is subduing symptoms. Someone is making a ton of money for this and the lock down mentality is to soften us up for The Great Reset.

11 posted on 03/14/2021 10:42:19 PM PDT by Aria (- )
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To: Secret Agent Man

“This is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.”

In that case it is designed to turn people into Covid-19 creators and spreaders, right?


12 posted on 03/14/2021 10:42:48 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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If the author is going to rely on some hair-splittingly fine definition of a vaccine, then he better actually provide the definition or a link to it.

They’re a legally defined term under CDC and FDA standards, and a vaccine specifically has to stimulate, both an immunity within the person receiving it but it also has to disrupt transmission. And that’s not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand going into the cell is not to stop transmission.

But the mRNA strand causes the cell to produce the protein in question which the body then develops the immune response to. This is like saying that the smallpox vaccine using vaccinia virus wasn't a vaccine because it didn't produce an immune response but rather caused your body to produce more vaccinia viruses. But that is how it produced immunity to the smallpox variola virus - by having the body create enough of the related vaccinia virus to create an immune response.

I would have to see the exact legal definition of a vaccine to see why the smallpox vaccine would count and the mRNA vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna don't - and even then I would say that the law is falling behind the science.

Moderna was started as a chemotherapy company for cancer, not a vaccine manufacturer for SARS-COV2.

And BMW started as a manufacturer of airplane engines. Does that mean every BMW on the road is really an airplane? Companies evolve and add new expertise. Using Moderna's origins is a silly argument.

I tried to watch the linked video, but only the first minute showed where Dr. Martin was defining a vaccine but no further information.

13 posted on 03/14/2021 10:45:22 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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To: Aria

Perhaps Fauci is lying to make his investments worth more...
I know, you could never believe he would do that LOL!


14 posted on 03/14/2021 10:49:08 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Secret Agent Man

SEM: Thank you for posting.

Unlike some here, I am not expert, and I don’t state opinion as fact...

However, I am linking to a woman who has 21 years of research and experience in the field of vaccines. She provides a very easy-to-understand summary of what MRNA PFE, and J&J jabs are and are not...

If you are not a Christian, please disregard the beginning 2 minutes and a couple of Christian references within the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaKAWWGyWI

For those who think she is too simplistic, here is link to a much more detailed talk: She begins at 26:17

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NQCMvUBDN83O/

I am not anti-vax, but I am in no hurry to get the current offerings of COVID vaccines.


15 posted on 03/14/2021 10:50:22 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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To: Secret Agent Man; Candor7

Novavax’s COVID-19 vaccine was 89.7% effective in a large trial, and worked against the contagious virus variant first found in the UK; 96.4% effective against the original virus strain

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3942243/posts


16 posted on 03/14/2021 10:52:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: S.O.S121.500

Thank you for posting this...I have heard of this doc, but had not found his videos...


17 posted on 03/14/2021 10:53:31 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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To: Secret Agent Man

I have heard it described as a “biologic.”


18 posted on 03/14/2021 10:54:14 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys )
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To: Secret Agent Man

Whatever these cv19 gene therapies are, they are not necessary. The scamdemic would have completely failed without the restrictions on effective treatments, without the social media bans on discussing those treatments, without the phony death numbers, if we had adopted a basic public health measure of testing everyone for vitamin D levels and then raising them as needed, and on and on.

Anyone claiming to be against CCP infiltration of America is delusional if they think they can stop CCP while going along with the scamdemic narrative.


19 posted on 03/14/2021 10:54:59 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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To: Secret Agent Man

It is very possible the formula was invented before the virus.


20 posted on 03/14/2021 10:57:59 PM PDT by bray (Pray for fake President Biden)
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