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Note they admit it won’t stop people from transmitting covid to others. This totally destroys their argument for demanding people take this for other peoples’/societies’ sake.

Further white house press sec Jen Psaki has lied on video to people saying this has been fully tested, and that it is fda-approved. It has not been fully tested but has an experimental waiver, and it is not fda-approved at all.

1 posted on 03/14/2021 10:12:18 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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After all the lies and 2020 voter fraud you would think would not trust the government and anything to do with covid vaccines but people are really stupid.


2 posted on 03/14/2021 10:14:50 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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The Government is lying to us and the media is helping to cover it up.

Did I get that right?

In other news, water is wet, etc.

3 posted on 03/14/2021 10:15:53 PM PDT by rllngrk33 (It seems the soap box and ballot box have failed, it might be time for the bullet box.)
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Pure idiocy for idiots.

The mRNA vaccine produces a defensive response to the ‘spike’ protein the Covid virus uses to infect cells.
The mRNA vaccine induces production of antibodies against the ‘spike’.

Whatever the faults of the vaccine, or really the health profession - which has us failed here- this is a valid “vaccine”.


4 posted on 03/14/2021 10:23:18 PM PDT by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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The big question is, what is anyone going to do about it?
Last I saw in the news seventy million people are considered insurrectionists, conspiracy theorist racists, anti vaxers and racists.


9 posted on 03/14/2021 10:38:02 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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http://bit.ly/GeertV


10 posted on 03/14/2021 10:39:50 PM PDT by S.O.S121.500 (Had ENOUGH Yet ? ........................ Enforce the Bill of Rights .........It is the LAW. )
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“This is a medical device designed to stimulate the human cell into becoming a pathogen creator.”

In that case it is designed to turn people into Covid-19 creators and spreaders, right?


12 posted on 03/14/2021 10:42:48 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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If the author is going to rely on some hair-splittingly fine definition of a vaccine, then he better actually provide the definition or a link to it.

They’re a legally defined term under CDC and FDA standards, and a vaccine specifically has to stimulate, both an immunity within the person receiving it but it also has to disrupt transmission. And that’s not what this is. They have been abundantly clear in saying that the mRNA strand going into the cell is not to stop transmission.

But the mRNA strand causes the cell to produce the protein in question which the body then develops the immune response to. This is like saying that the smallpox vaccine using vaccinia virus wasn't a vaccine because it didn't produce an immune response but rather caused your body to produce more vaccinia viruses. But that is how it produced immunity to the smallpox variola virus - by having the body create enough of the related vaccinia virus to create an immune response.

I would have to see the exact legal definition of a vaccine to see why the smallpox vaccine would count and the mRNA vaccines by Pfizer and Moderna don't - and even then I would say that the law is falling behind the science.

Moderna was started as a chemotherapy company for cancer, not a vaccine manufacturer for SARS-COV2.

And BMW started as a manufacturer of airplane engines. Does that mean every BMW on the road is really an airplane? Companies evolve and add new expertise. Using Moderna's origins is a silly argument.

I tried to watch the linked video, but only the first minute showed where Dr. Martin was defining a vaccine but no further information.

13 posted on 03/14/2021 10:45:22 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The greatest threat to world freedom is the Chinese Communist Party and Joe Biden is their puppet.)
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SEM: Thank you for posting.

Unlike some here, I am not expert, and I don’t state opinion as fact...

However, I am linking to a woman who has 21 years of research and experience in the field of vaccines. She provides a very easy-to-understand summary of what MRNA PFE, and J&J jabs are and are not...

If you are not a Christian, please disregard the beginning 2 minutes and a couple of Christian references within the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaKAWWGyWI

For those who think she is too simplistic, here is link to a much more detailed talk: She begins at 26:17

https://www.bitchute.com/video/NQCMvUBDN83O/

I am not anti-vax, but I am in no hurry to get the current offerings of COVID vaccines.


15 posted on 03/14/2021 10:50:22 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 (Republicans will get the government they deserve if they do nothing :()
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Novavax’s COVID-19 vaccine was 89.7% effective in a large trial, and worked against the contagious virus variant first found in the UK; 96.4% effective against the original virus strain

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3942243/posts


16 posted on 03/14/2021 10:52:39 PM PDT by LucyT
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Whatever these cv19 gene therapies are, they are not necessary. The scamdemic would have completely failed without the restrictions on effective treatments, without the social media bans on discussing those treatments, without the phony death numbers, if we had adopted a basic public health measure of testing everyone for vitamin D levels and then raising them as needed, and on and on.

Anyone claiming to be against CCP infiltration of America is delusional if they think they can stop CCP while going along with the scamdemic narrative.


19 posted on 03/14/2021 10:54:59 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Aim small, miss small)
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It is very possible the formula was invented before the virus.


20 posted on 03/14/2021 10:57:59 PM PDT by bray (Pray for fake President Biden)
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WolfOfWellStreet
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#TNX1800 vector is horsepox. Been safely used for over 200 years and eradicated smallpox. The mRNA (Pfizer Moderna) vaccines also have some safety concerns. There is still a major need for covid-19 vaccine research and development. #TNXP #Covid_19

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1371307829722746880


21 posted on 03/14/2021 11:01:58 PM PDT by LucyT
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Now.. Now...

What could POSSIBLY go wrong with telling your cells to produce a spike protein that your body will develop an immune response to???


25 posted on 03/14/2021 11:13:00 PM PDT by Safrguns
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A few weeks ago the mRna stuff was not considered a vaccine

https://web.archive.org/web/20210118194713/https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine

this week it is, it must be great to have control of language, I know I would be really gay if I did.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/vaccine


29 posted on 03/14/2021 11:19:06 PM PDT by algore
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The viral m-RNA enters your cells and takes over you cell protein producing machinery and forces it to produce the outer spike proteins of the virus. They then exist the cell and your immune system reacts to the produced viral proteins.
How long does this go on?
I have not been able to get an answer:
Medical employees have been forced to take it!
I have had 2.
I would recommend only taking a real vaccine that is made of killed or attenuated viral protein that your immune system reacts to. Nothing enters your cells forcing them to produce foreign protein.
Period.
There have been many side effects to the viral m-RNA vaccines.
They are being minimized or not mentioned at all.


30 posted on 03/14/2021 11:23:57 PM PDT by doc maverick
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Bttt


31 posted on 03/14/2021 11:28:28 PM PDT by thinden
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“white house press sec Jen Psaki has lied on video to people saying this has been fully tested, and that it is fda-approved”

Hey, she has a BA in English and Sociology.


41 posted on 03/15/2021 12:09:47 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. .... )
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It's interesting how communists, pedophiles, Deep State Cabalists, and other globalists creeps are the ones pushing this Satanic cocktail the hardest.

Meanwhile, normal people (those of us with a brain, anyway) are rightfully skeptical once the facts are reviewed.

1.) This experimental garbage was rushed through with absolutely no validity, testing, or otherwise reliability rating.

2.) You are absolutely DISALLOWED to take legal action against anyone (corporate creator, government agent, or any other person connected to its dissemination) related to this garbage through a corporate-government order. Even if the person dies or suffers permanent impairment as the direct result of injecting this poisonous crap.

3.) There is no one, who can be taken seriously anyway, who has proven this crap is totally effective at stopping the spread/infection of this scamdemic.

44 posted on 03/15/2021 12:19:01 AM PDT by Prole ( )
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The same situation occurs after taking the measles vaccination. The vaccine creates antibodies that attacks the measles virus after it enters the body. However, this attack is not faster than the measles virus that enters the cell and takes over the machinery of the ribosomes to produce new measles viruses. During that time, the troops are coming but not before the virus is able to shed out through the respiratory system. Because the measles virus does not reproduce at any high level, the viral load that is shed is so low, that people are not likely to be infected. This window of opportunity for the measles virus is made very short because of the antibodies created by the measles vaccine.

COVID-19 takes over the machinery of the ribosomes and reproduces a tremendous load of new viruses very quickly. A vaccinated person may shed enough viruses to infect others before the antibody troops round them up.

Yes, the mRNA vaccine is a vaccine.


46 posted on 03/15/2021 12:21:08 AM PDT by jonrick46 ( Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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Don’t tell that to the Israelis. They have the largest real world study and the highest percentage vaccinated in the world they are just about at herd immunity levels and there cases are in mass decline. 95+% of hospital cases are now unvaccinated people. 94% effective against asymptomatic infection means 94% of people cannot pass it on if they are not infected at all and they found a higher rate against symptomatic infection. For the Israelis the Pfizer vaccine is going to end the pandemic for them and soon. They already have opened normal life back up for holders of a two dose card. Sorry antivax loons the Pfizer vax is working and it’s as effective in the real world as the vaccine that wiped smallpox off the face of the planet. Smallpox vax was also 95% at best. Again Israel has real world not lab numbers with the UK and SA variants present in Israel God bless the Israeli people and their land.

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/03/11/pfizer-covid-vaccine-blocks-94percent-of-asymptomatic-infections-and-97percent-of-symptomatic-cases-in-israeli-study.html


54 posted on 03/15/2021 1:19:40 AM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici" )
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