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The Volkswagen ID.4 Is A Disappointing Electric Car (For Now)
Engineering Explained ^ | 3 Mar 2021 | Engineering Explained

Posted on 03/06/2021 8:12:26 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Volkswagen says the ID.4 is their most important vehicle launch since the Beetle. That's big shoes to fill! This long-range all electric vehicle is competing in a highly sought after market, and America's latest crave: the crossover. The ID.4 features 250 miles of range with a 82 kWh battery pack (77 kWh useable), 201 HP and 229 lb-ft of torque, and RWD. The permanent magnet synchronous motor spins up to 16,000 RPM!

It all sounds very exciting, but unfortunately the ID.4 feels like it has come a bit short on the promise of bring "electric cars to the millions, not the millionaires." Even with the $7,500 tax credit, the starting price of nearly $40,000 is still a tad high. Especially considering the AWD variants will easily push to $50k with options. But the bigger disappointments come from the current charging system: Electrify America. You'd think charging and navigating a VW on VW's own funded and created network would be seamless, but for now, it's anything but. Check out the video for all the details.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Travel
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A 17 minute video review.

This guy is the consummate gear head and also owns a Tesla.

For what little it may be worth, I recommend this guy to my gear head friends.

And yes, I'm looking forward to owning an EV with FSD (Full Self Driving)...Like a GV80 EV with FSD.

1 posted on 03/06/2021 8:12:26 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I’d own an EV provided that: it’ll go 450 miles on a charge with the heater or A/C on full blast and can be fully charged at any gas station in ten minutes or less (or the same time it would take to fill an 18 gallon gas tank).


2 posted on 03/06/2021 8:17:35 AM PST by SkyDancer (Remember Ashli Babbitt!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Wow...insanity in action.

VW is notorious for it's horrific electrical system problems. I've had friends I warned off turn in their cars within a year after things like ignition failure, window motors getting stuck and worse.

Way to burn your money.

3 posted on 03/06/2021 8:20:40 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: SkyDancer

BINGO! And I’ll be impressed when a jumbo jetliner can lift off the ground and fly half way around the world on solar/air power. Until then, Meh.


4 posted on 03/06/2021 8:21:44 AM PST by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate tfo mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: SkyDancer

Yep, I was thinking of driving from New Hampshire to Tennessee this weekend (long drive I know) and my planning consisted of hopping in the car and driving. With multiple stops of multi-hour recharges it just couldn’t be done in a reasonable time.


5 posted on 03/06/2021 8:22:19 AM PST by glorgau
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To: DUMBGRUNT

6 posted on 03/06/2021 8:24:24 AM PST by Pollard (Bunch of curmudgeons)
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To: SkyDancer

What you suggest is well-nigh unto impossible. And before that even becomes technologically possible, the Demo-Commies will have banished gasoline cars....except for themselves, of course.


7 posted on 03/06/2021 8:26:00 AM PST by hoagy62 (DTCM&OTTH)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I might get a hybrid some day, but I can’t seen a PlugInElectric in my future.


8 posted on 03/06/2021 8:27:08 AM PST by PAR35
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A glimpse of the forced future. Horribly environmentally destructive expensive electric cars. When we are forced to drive this trash where is every parking lot and home going to get the power and infrastructure to pull the amps to charge these batteries? The minerals required? Africa will be one giant open pit mine owned by China staffed by slaves.


9 posted on 03/06/2021 8:27:50 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: SkyDancer
I'm waiting for an EV by Lucas electric....for the laughs.


10 posted on 03/06/2021 8:29:29 AM PST by xp38
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To: hoagy62
the Demo-Commies will have banished gasoline cars

Switch to wood at that point.

https://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html

11 posted on 03/06/2021 8:29:41 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Caipirabob

VW is notorious for it’s horrific electrical system problems.


Wait until Lucas Electrics tries to build an electric car.


12 posted on 03/06/2021 8:30:47 AM PST by hanamizu
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To: Daffynition
Volkswagen says the ID.4 is their most important vehicle launch since the Beetle. That's big shoes to fill!

Up high. Too low...

... too slow.

Will it reach the Extraterrestrial Hwy in Rachel Nevada? There's already a time capsule waiting at the Little A'Le'Inn:

It's lookin' a bit rough.

13 posted on 03/06/2021 8:32:58 AM PST by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

You do realize there is no manmade Global Warming.


14 posted on 03/06/2021 8:33:11 AM PST by bray (Pray for fake President Biden)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

A white steering wheel?

That will look great after a year. /s


15 posted on 03/06/2021 8:38:37 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Joe Biden: The best president Chinese money can buy.)
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To: Caipirabob

VW is notorious for it’s horrific electrical system problems.

I know a guy that’s a mechanic at a VW dealer.
When asked about a flurry of problems in the news, he said “VW is a great company and they do that to keep the mechanics busy”


16 posted on 03/06/2021 8:42:26 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message.)
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To: glorgau

That’s no problem, just slap a genset and some spare gas tanks on the roof.


17 posted on 03/06/2021 8:48:50 AM PST by Senormechanico
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To: SkyDancer

I wouldn’t own one, at gunpoint. My 2019 Jeep Grand Cherokee HEMI V8 is too much fun, and I don’t care about the electric junkers.


18 posted on 03/06/2021 8:49:04 AM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: AbolishCSEU

“BINGO! And I’ll be impressed when a jumbo jetliner can lift off the ground and fly half way around the world on solar/air power. “

They have that now as long as the plane is well grounded


19 posted on 03/06/2021 8:49:28 AM PST by dsrtsage (Complexity is merely simplicity lacking imagination)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

In case you missed it in the video, the very network of charging stations VW created (Electrify America), it doesn’t work very well with this actual ID.4 VW, and it works better without any flaws on other electrics like Tesla and the Ford Mustang MachE. I had to laugh as the guy must have hammered this point at least 7 times lol.


20 posted on 03/06/2021 8:54:27 AM PST by Blue Highway
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