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The people with hidden immunity against Covid-19
BBC ^ | 7/19/2020 | Zaria Gorvett

Posted on 11/29/2020 5:56:29 PM PST by Kartographer

In short, though antibodies have proved invaluable for tracking the spread of the pandemic, they might not have the leading role in immunity that we once thought. If we are going to acquire long-term protection, it looks increasingly like it might have to come from somewhere else.

But while the world has been preoccupied with antibodies, researchers have started to realise that there might be another form of immunity – one which, in some cases, has been lurking undetected in the body for years. An enigmatic type of white blood cell is gaining prominence. And though it hasn’t previously featured heavily in the public consciousness, it may well prove to be crucial in our fight against Covid-19. This could be the T cell’s big moment.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: covid
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1 posted on 11/29/2020 5:56:29 PM PST by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer

They are NEVER going to give up their pandemic hoax lockdowns.

They have us where they want us, under their thumbs, and they will never let us up unless we kill them.


2 posted on 11/29/2020 5:58:25 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (You are in far more danger from an authoritarian government than you are from a seasonal virus.)
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To: Kartographer

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00436-4

Not just antibodies: B cells and T cells mediate immunity to COVID-19


3 posted on 11/29/2020 6:06:06 PM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I totally agree. Since when? When they tell us that catching the disease and surviving it gives us no future immunity. Since when, does medicine take our blood from people who lived through the disease, and make a treatment for people who are sick, then tell us we have no immunity? Since when, is it only possible to get immunity from a needle, but not the disease.

This is just like the HIV=AIDS BS. It is the medical community playing Merlin the magician, and use rubes work hard to make enough money to pay them billions or trillions.


4 posted on 11/29/2020 6:07:58 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer, )
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To: All

Wild Turkey 101 will kill that virus dead. They talk about these “cocktails” they make, forget that. Just drink it straight or one cube only.


5 posted on 11/29/2020 6:11:27 PM PST by BipolarBob ("Mother, can I trust the government")
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To: RummyChick

this article has no bearing on COVID but does show how ferritin can affect those certain cells.

https://jprsolutions.info/files/final-file-5ec958f16ddfa0.73615335.pdf

The Lung Dr who got this early on and had to be hospitalized had insane Ferritin levels. The article about him was either on Slate or Salon.


6 posted on 11/29/2020 6:12:36 PM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: Kartographer

I am convinced my son has some immunity. He has worked in covid wards since March as a contractor setting up isolation rooms. The first three months he did not wear any PPE. He has been exposed 3 times in close contact with covid positive and symptomatic people. He does not wear masks anywhere, he travels, he is in crowds, his hygiene (hand washing etc) well, he’s not the greatest at all that.

Anyway, I’m convinced he is immune.


7 posted on 11/29/2020 6:14:02 PM PST by LilFarmer
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To: Kartographer

Well, this is something any good first year medical student could have said. It continually perplexes me that news outlets breathlessly report what is common knowledge in the medical field. Amazingly enough, CoVID induces the exact same immunological response that most other viruses induce.

Shocking....


8 posted on 11/29/2020 6:16:10 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: RummyChick

Ferritin is a nonspecific acute phase reactant. It is a reasonable marker of inflammation and can help us understand the prognosis but thats about the end of it from a clinical standpoint.


9 posted on 11/29/2020 6:17:12 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: RummyChick

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/05/what-it-feels-like-to-survive-covid-19s-dreaded-cytokine-storm/

“In the current context, we believe we have a biomarker of this condition, a serum level of a non-specific but is an acute phase reactant called serum ferritin. It looks like it may be to be one of the more reliable biomarkers of cytokine dysregulation. A serum ferritin is normally below 400 in our lab, mine was 18,000!”


10 posted on 11/29/2020 6:17:17 PM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: BipolarBob

Not bad advice
After reading articles like this, I find myself in need of a good stiff drink


11 posted on 11/29/2020 6:18:09 PM PST by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: Kartographer

You don’t need long term immunity. Once it has passed through the population, you will get boosters from repeated endemic exposures.


12 posted on 11/29/2020 6:18:31 PM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Reverse Wickard v Filburn (1942) - and - ISLAM DELENDA EST)
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To: Kartographer

I hope I am one of them. I flew to Florida and back in March. I go out every day, sans mask, and interact with people. To shop anywhere in Gov. Polesmoker’s paradise in Colorado, I am force to wear one. So far, so good, and I am in the “death zone”, age wise.


13 posted on 11/29/2020 6:21:31 PM PST by dynachrome (People who get what they want are often surprised when they also get what they deserve. ~ james wood)
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To: gas_dr

Well I said it tongue in cheek but 2020 has not been a good year for a lot of folks. The government has only increased the pain.


14 posted on 11/29/2020 6:22:17 PM PST by BipolarBob ("Mother, can I trust the government")
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To: Kartographer

Just saw a Newsmax article that says us old farts with a TB vaccination might have immunity from that. Do today’s urchins still receive that shot? Everybody got it in my day.

https://www.newsmax.com/health/headline/tuberculosis-vaccine-coronavirus-cedars-sinai/2020/11/24/id/998530/


15 posted on 11/29/2020 6:25:24 PM PST by matthew fuller (No more Fox News- AKA SOROS/FOX As The World Turns.....)
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To: Kartographer

I probably have natural immunity. Besides washing my hands once in a while I’m doing nothing.

I meet new people just about every day for my job. Much of my work is outdoors so I don’t mask.

Been in about 15 states since this began and in many crowds, up to 50,000.


16 posted on 11/29/2020 6:29:51 PM PST by cyclotic (The most dangerous people are the ones that feel the most helpless)
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To: matthew fuller

Another theory is MMR vaccine. Don’t know where that theory stands today.


17 posted on 11/29/2020 6:31:18 PM PST by RummyChick (I blame Kushner.)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Not sure there is any proof of that, but I believe it to be the case also. Seems like we would all want to get a very small viral load to keep our bodies producing a certain level of antibodies.


18 posted on 11/29/2020 6:38:53 PM PST by DennisR (Look around. God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

P4L


19 posted on 11/29/2020 6:55:45 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Kartographer
This could be the T cell’s big moment.

Some of us have been saying this for months. Now BBC discovers it?

20 posted on 11/29/2020 6:58:55 PM PST by FreeReign
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