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Why we need a clinical trial of hydroxycholoroquine, azithromycin, and zinc ASAP: The stats coming out of existing studies are too compelling to ignore
American Thinker ^ | 05/17/2020 | Rob Williamson

Posted on 05/17/2020 6:36:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A preliminary study done by New York's Grossman School of Medicine reports on the use of HCQ+AZT+Zinc versus HCQ+AZT alone in four New York Hospitals has issued its report. Here's the key finding of the abstract.

Zinc sulfate increased the frequency of patients being discharged home, and decreased the need for ventilation, admission to the ICU, and mortality or transfer to hospice for patients who were never admitted to the ICU.  After adjusting for the time at which zinc sulfate was added to our protocol, an increased frequency of being discharged home (OR 1.53, 95% CI 1.12-2.09) reduction in mortality or transfer to hospice remained significant (OR 0.449, 95% CI 0.271-0.744).  Conclusion: This study provides the first in vivo evidence that zinc sulfate in combination with hydroxychloroquine may play a role in therapeutic management for COVID-19.

The "main finding of this study is that after adjusting for the timing of zinc therapy, we found that the addition of zinc sulfate to hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin was found to associate with a decrease in mortality or transition to hospice among patients who did not require ICU level of care, but this association was not significant in patients who were treated in the ICU."

Here are the statistics:

Why do we need a clinical trial of HCQ+AZT+Zinc?

It may cut ICU visits by 40%
It may halve the need for ventilation.
And it may cut the death rate by almost 50%.


(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: covid19; dsj03; hydroxycholoroquine; zinc
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1 posted on 05/17/2020 6:36:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What is far more important is to rescind the restrictions on prescribing hydroxychloroquine dictated by Democratic governors. This regimen works best when prescribed early in the disease. It should be prescribed with the onset of fevers and cough. Waiting until a “positive” test is in hand or when the patient develops an actual radiographically proven pneumonitis results in a poor prognosis. The Democratic governors are preventing primary care physicians from doing their life saving jobs. These vile politicians have blood on their hands.


2 posted on 05/17/2020 6:44:04 AM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about the model Fauci used was bogus as is the lockdown.


3 posted on 05/17/2020 6:44:43 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: SeekAndFind

We need an honest trial. The current HCQ trials look like they were designed to intentionally discredit HCQ effectiveness.


4 posted on 05/17/2020 6:47:01 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: SeekAndFind
Why does Fauci think he's the last word.....cuz he lied his a** off when he laid out the "Fake" study on the President's desk.

And folks....you better take a good look at your governors and think about the mess they created in the next election.

And it's time you legislate restrictions on their solutions. The PEOPLE must have a role. The Governor cannot become a dictator and that is what has happened.

Trump has now proven that.

5 posted on 05/17/2020 6:51:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do we need a clinical trial of HCQ, we know it works, we knew it worked last Covid outbreak, we know it will work next Covid outbreak.

Zinc has always worked on colds, do we need another, another and again another multi.illion dollar delay tactic to keep the Nazis in power a little longer?

They are not done destroying the economy yet...


6 posted on 05/17/2020 6:59:54 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why hasn’t there been a full trial already? We’re not talking about cancer with a multiple month long treatment? We’re not talking about arthritis with a lifetime of treatment? The current treatment with hydroxycholoroquine, azithromycin, and zinc is under a week and you have a large pool of patients. Maybe some testing to see if five days or ten days is optimal, but it’s not that hard to do a five day test on a thousand patients even with a control group.


7 posted on 05/17/2020 7:03:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parachutes are only anecdotally effective due to the lack of significant double blind testing.)
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To: allendale

What we need is class action suits against Governors who decided to play Doctor without a license. As the death rate percentage is higher in all States with “doctor” Democrats, just deduct the difference and multiply the sum by wrongful death charges.

Should be good for thousand year imprisonment sentences.


8 posted on 05/17/2020 7:04:09 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: KarlInOhio

RE: Why hasn’t there been a full trial already?

There have been numerous clinical trials with Hydroxycholorquine. NONE included Zinc. All of them administered it at the latter stages of the patient’s illness.


9 posted on 05/17/2020 7:06:07 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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There are many. It works really well for mild to medium cases. Once in ICU, it doesn’t appear to help and may hurt. Hence the mixed results amof negative studies and popularity as a drug.

This is a really informative video on the topic

https://youtu.be/WZq-K1wpur8


10 posted on 05/17/2020 7:06:45 AM PDT by bhl
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To: kosciusko51

“We need an honest trial. The current HCQ trials look like they were designed to intentionally discredit HCQ effectiveness.”

Some may be. There’s a study going on in a NY hospital supposedly testing the method used by the Jewish doctor (Z..?). We’ll see how that one turns out, and whether it’s an honest effort.

Regardless, I think enough real science is being done to get to the truth...eventually. I think it will come out that the Dems are responsible for a lot of deaths, we’ll see!


11 posted on 05/17/2020 7:07:24 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Make America Greater Than Ever!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why does there need to be a trial when there is the real thing.?

Why does reality need practice?

Lawyers, unscrupulous ambulance chasing lawyers. There should be an executive order suspending and disallowing Covid 19 litigation


12 posted on 05/17/2020 7:11:39 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Progressives are existential American enemies)
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I have read, HCQ+AZT+Zinc acts as both a cure AND a vaccine.

But at only $1 a pop, not as profitable as $1,000 pills.

Follow the money...as always.


13 posted on 05/17/2020 7:13:16 AM PDT by newfreep
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https://www.infezmed.it/media/journal/Vol_28_2_2020_9.pdf
https://www.telegraphindia.com/world/zinc-hope-in-corona-fight/cid/1771935 (Results - HCQ/Z-pak/zinc good)
https://www.reviewjournal.com/life/health/las-vegas-hospital-blazes-own-path-with-malaria-drug-to-treat-covid-19-2005095/
https://www.financialexpress.com/lifestyle/health/russia-to-treat-virus-cases-with-anti-malaria-drug-hydroxychloroquine/1931775/
https://www.scnow.com/news/health/hydroxychloroquine-trial-set-to-launch-at-musc-health/article_0ce32f0e-2fe1-56ba-956d-7158dc20c582.html
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-04/uoc—cta043020.php
https://surfguardcr.com/local-news/costa-rica/costa-rica-prescribing-hydroxychloroquine-for-covid-19-patients
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ilfattoquotidiano.it%2F2020%2F04%2F28%2Fcoronavirus-da-nord-a-sud-1039-pazienti-trattati-a-casa-con-idrossiclorochina-il-punto-sulla-sperimentazione-crollo-dei-ricoveri%2F5783544%2F
https://www.redstate.com/elizabeth-vaughn/2020/04/23/french-doctor-didier-raoult-cites-flaws-scientific-misconduct-in-recent-va-study-on-hydroxychloroquine/
https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trials-effective-in-silencing-american-media
https://www.india.com/news/india/coronavirus-mumbais-dharavi-to-become-indias-stage-for-hydroxychloroquine-experiment-4005790/
14 posted on 05/17/2020 7:23:42 AM PDT by Pollard (whatever)
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To: allendale
Waiting until a “positive” test is in hand or when the patient develops an actual radiographically proven pneumonitis results in a poor prognosis.

So presenting symptoms before death is good enough for the dead patient to be included in the statistics for COVID-19 (regardless of actual cause of death), but presenting symptoms to a doctor, who holds a valid license to practice medicine, is not good enough for said doctor to prescribe treatment of the patient with hydroxychloroquine early enough to be effective against COVID-19.

Love the hypocrisy.

15 posted on 05/17/2020 7:33:06 AM PDT by asinclair (Political hot air is a renewable energy resource)
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To: dljordan

My 90-year-old Mom is living proof that the vast majority of people who catch the Wuhan Flu beat it.

She is a hospice patient with lung failure in a nursing home and tested positive on May, 7th after presenting a slight fever. It’s been three days now since she has had a fever, and hasn’t had any other symptoms. I’m hoping she has beaten this like she has defied other grave illnesses all her life.

Her nursing home currently has 39 active patients, with three deaths so far. All the spread began with a resident that returned from a hospital stay for an unrelated illness and he has been declared recovered.

This disease is VERY contagious. It has managed to spread within this facility regardless of the sanitation, isolation, and rigorous testing they have done.


16 posted on 05/17/2020 7:33:34 AM PDT by phoneman08 (qwiyrqweopigradfdzcm,.dadfjl,dz)
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To: SeekAndFind

There are currently 1,518 clinical trials going on for Covid-19. Many of them are exploring different drugs, biologics, or treatment modalities to treat Covid. Out of those studies, 62 are looking at chloroquine and/or hydroxychloroquine. so the title of the article is somewhat off; the author should have done his homework and checked out the site www.clinicaltrials.gov.

Oh, among the studies, I found this gem:

“ChloroQUine As antiviRal treAtmeNT In coroNavirus infEction 2020”

(Look at the capital letters.)


17 posted on 05/17/2020 7:37:58 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org)
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To: Pollard

I posted this on the thread about another NYT article slamming the French Doc last night and touting one over the other -

The coverage of the HCQ treatment during this pandemic is one of the most irrational things that I have seen. Are all of the doctors who have seen incredible success with it lying? What would be their motive? What would they have to gain? There are thousands of success stories with the HCQ treatment. Entire nations are now using it.... are their doctors idiots or do they know less than journalists?

It is dumbfounding to me how this story has been covered. A treatment for the disease with a high success rate (nothing is perfect) would be the best news possible. I guess that is the answer....

On top of that, we have a full court press by a large pharmaceutical company for their new drug. I hope and pray it works! That would be good news, but the promotion of one seems to involve the denigrating of the other.

I have a background in biology/chemistry. I don’t claim any expertise and don’t use my degree in my current occupation, but I can think critically and evaluate information on my own. I have told my family if they get sick with this to demand the HCQ treatment immediately. Document the response. If they are refused ask for a second opinion immediately. Seek a third if necessary.

I hope ALL of these drugs work as a treatment.


18 posted on 05/17/2020 7:57:20 AM PDT by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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19 posted on 05/17/2020 8:02:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Enquiring minds want to know.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Reminds me of terpin hydrate. It was spectacular for clearing my lungs when I got bronchitis (especially without the codeine). one day of coughing up everthing and then it was gone. But someone in the FDA decided that it had never been tested and it was so cheap tbat it wasn’t worth the money for any drug company to do the tests so it was removed from the market.


20 posted on 05/17/2020 8:08:54 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Parachutes are only anecdotally effective due to the lack of significant double blind testing.)
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