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Flubros and Flubras! Day 49 (a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 7 May 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 05/07/2020 4:29:05 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

Two things today:

Public policy contradicts the science - Wuhan flu will stop when herd immunity occurs. Both deaths and economic damage are minimized when herd immunity occurs as a result of largely asymptomatic people getting exposed to the virus as quickly as possible. Anything done by policy makers to actively prevent the spread of Wuhan Flu to the healthy (eg school closures and business lockdowns) actually winds up increasing the number of deaths and hurting the economy. The target should be to try and get the approximately 60% with antibodies needed for herd immunity to be largely from the healthy population. Ben Shapiro has been good about this recently - I guess Israeli scientists call it the controlled avalanche approach.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/opinion/coronavirus-reopening-controlled-avalanche-strategy-ben-shapiro.amp

We Flubros published our version of the same science here (we were first to publish)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3830890/posts

Public policy is both killing people and destroying the economy.

Boosting immune system against CV - Young healthy people are not affected by CV. This will be known as the nursing home disease with maybe half of all deaths nursing home residents. Nursing home patients are often stuck inside all day which makes them vitamin D deficient. Low vitamin D is apparently an excellent predictor of probability of dying from CV. So vitamin D supplementation and/or sunlight will help make sure you are asymptomatic if you get exposed. Extra zinc might also help as it kills the virus. Not sure of the science but maybe since Hydroxychloroquine plus zinc helps them zinc alone must surely help too. Any other Flubro insights on how to stay healthy when exposed to Wuhan?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: coronavirus; vanity
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To: jospehm20

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


21 posted on 05/07/2020 5:39:08 AM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: jospehm20

The only thing I would point out is that Flu deaths are ALL estimated using an analysis of death certificates AFTER the season has ended. Influenza deaths are not “reportable” (except for pediatrics.)

The ONLY accurate measure will be a historical review of overall death rates on a year to year basis.

In the end, the issue with the virus isn’t the death rate. It’s the infection rate, length of stay in the hospital, and the disruption of “the system.” This has always been the case.

Counting deaths to determine the impact of the virus is a waste of time. The impact is economic. It always has been.


22 posted on 05/07/2020 5:47:19 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

The economic impact of the Wuhan Flu is mostly self inflicted.


23 posted on 05/07/2020 5:49:29 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SavannahWonderer

A friend of ours was walking by her house last week and was hit by a car. It nearly killed her.


24 posted on 05/07/2020 5:51:05 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: jospehm20

” Dr. Birx said that anybody who dies with the Wuhan virus will be counted as a Covid 19 death. The actual number that have died of Wuhan flu is likely less than usually die of normal flu annually.”
In an average year there are 57,000 deaths in NYC FROM ALL CAUSES IN AN ENTIRE YEAR. 57,000 / 12 = 4,750 deaths in an average month. There were 17,043 Covid deaths in the last 30 days in NYC. If we blamed ALL the normal deaths on Covid, that would be 4,750, but what about the other 12,293 deaths? What caused them, genius?
Nationally, normal flu kills about 30,000 over a 100 day flu season. That’s 300 per day. But about 2,000 people are dying of Covid in the US every day. At some point you have to admit Kozak is right - your head is in your keester.

4-4 387 2254
4-5 218 2472
4-6 266 2738
4-7 806 3544
4-8 716 4260
4-9 518 4778
4-10 651 5429
4-11 313 5742
4-12 440 6182
4-13 1167 7349
4-14 556 7905
4-15 2462 10367
4-16 1110 11477
4-17 1235 12712
4-18 528 13240
4-19 443 13683
4-20 744 14427
4-21 565 14992
4-22 419 15411
4-23 437 15,848
4-24 422 16,270
4-25 403 16,673
4-28 542 17,215
4-29 374 17,589
4-30 277 17,866
5-1 365 18,231
5-2 51 18,282
5-3 424 18,706
5-4 401 19,107
5-5 190 19,297

New York City - not the State of New York, just the City of New York - has about 57,000 deaths per year which is 158 per day.
https://data.cityofnewyork.us/Health/New-York-City-Leading-Causes-of-Death/jb7j-dtam

Another rough estimate for number of deaths in NYC every year,
from Quora - 1 death every 9 minutes, 158 per day, 57,000 per year

https://www.quora.com/How-many-people-die-in-New-York-every-day

https://www1.nyc.gov/assets/doh/downloads/pdf/imm/covid-19-daily-data-summary-deaths.pdf


25 posted on 05/07/2020 5:55:30 AM PDT by brookwood (Obama said you could keep your plan - Sanders says higher taxes will improve the weather)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C. S. Lewis


26 posted on 05/07/2020 5:59:11 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: brookwood

And, this is the reason we must keep Iowa and Nebraska closed completely.
NYC is too big to fail.


27 posted on 05/07/2020 5:59:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is serendipitous)
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To: Flick Lives

Thanks!


28 posted on 05/07/2020 6:00:44 AM PDT by moovova
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To: jospehm20

No shit, really?


29 posted on 05/07/2020 6:05:47 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Kozak

Well, Good Morning ! I see you’re continuing to make an arse of yourself


30 posted on 05/07/2020 6:17:49 AM PDT by nevermorelenore ( If My people will pray ....)
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To: Sirius Lee
I used to spend all the time I could outdoors in the sun. Got skin cancer. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. 🤪
31 posted on 05/07/2020 6:18:44 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Geronimo; Kozak

The guy flew in the F-4. He’s OK in my book.


32 posted on 05/07/2020 6:22:56 AM PDT by Laslo Fripp (The Sybil of Free Republic)
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To: Kozak

2017-2018 flu season had 79k dead. Covid is”only” 75k in 2 months. It’s just the flu bro


33 posted on 05/07/2020 6:23:29 AM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Laslo Fripp

Didn’t John McCain as well?


34 posted on 05/07/2020 6:23:51 AM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: Hot Tabasco

No way..!! If you were walking down Woodward last night, you wouldn’t be posting today!


35 posted on 05/07/2020 6:26:20 AM PDT by dakine
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To: Laslo Fripp

Yup. My grandfather got lung cancer and was gone inside of two months, 25 years AFTER he had quit smoking cold-turkey.


36 posted on 05/07/2020 6:26:39 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: brookwood

Nationally the Hong Kong FLU back in the 60s killed more people, even with the padded padded Wuhan flu numbers. I wonder why the numbers for NY are so much worse than the rest of the country? Where I live there is not much impact from the Wuhan flu. It is a lot like a normal flu season except for the forced closures. I suspect that most of the country is like that.


37 posted on 05/07/2020 6:28:05 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: jospehm20

The padded numbers are a criminal matter IMHO.
Every possible death is being used to rip-off the Federal Government for reimbursements.


38 posted on 05/07/2020 6:33:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: dakine

The guy was a member of a sting task force initiated by Gov. Whitmer....


39 posted on 05/07/2020 6:33:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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To: Vermont Lt

Yep. Scott’s honor.


40 posted on 05/07/2020 6:40:35 AM PDT by jospehm20
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