Posted on 04/05/2020 10:57:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
In Sweden, an interesting experiment is playing out, which may soon reveal that Britain is way off when it comes to modelling the number of coronavirus patients who will end up in intensive care.
The country has bucked the near-global lockdown trend, choosing to allow schools, businesses and sports venues to remain open and relying on the good sense of its citizens to control the virus through social distancing and maintaining good hygiene
But the country has chosen this path largely because its prediction of how its health service will cope is vastly different from the trajectory that British modellers have forecast.
The vast ramping up of intensive care beds in the UK in recent weeks was driven by modelling from Imperial College, which suggested up to 30 per cent of people who are hospitalised for coronavirus will need intensive care....
(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...
In a world first, the Swedish government has announced that it is going to officially distinguish between deaths “by“ and deaths “with“ the coronavirus, which should lead to a reduction in reported deaths. Meanwhile, for some reason, international pressure on Sweden to abandon its liberal strategy is steadily increasing.
Firewall and no summary by OP.
This is how the world ought to work. In a while, people will say THIS country did a smart thing, THAT country made a huge mistake.
“The country has bucked the near-global lockdown trend, choosing to allow schools, businesses and sports venues to remain open and relying on the good sense of its citizens to control the virus through social distancing and maintaining good hygiene.”
Sounds like they’ve come down with a bad case of common sense. I don’t we’ll hear much more about this unless it can be spun as a failure, or they can figure out how the Swedish experience can’t be replicated elsewhere.
The “herd immunity” works good with vaccines where no lives are at stake. However when you have live fire, and have to sacrifice your Dad or Grandmother for the sake of “herd immunity”, the theory is not so appealing.
I wonder if also one has to consider that countries like Sweden or Taiwan or South Korea have social mores that promote more cohesion and respect among one another. The trouble in North America is that too many people want it both ways (as part of their free lunch mentality) and that likely runs afoul of attitudes in those sorts of countries.
RE: Firewall and no summary by OP.
Here is another site that is not blocked by paywall that talks about the Swedish “Herd immunity” approach.
Go out and socialize. What are you missing out on?
No one is really going to stop you. The police are not checking folks at my street.
Give you and your like minded buddies handshakes and hugs.
Really, aside from being a social pariah, no one is stopping you.
Hoping to kill off the Muslims they left in the country
Our son thinks he has already had it since he had what he then described as a bad cold when he came back from New Orleans. He’s fine now. He never took his temp because, he’s a guy and at that time was living alone.
Our daughter has run a low grade temp now for a few days. She’s sheltering at her apartment. Sleeping a lot and living on soup. She’s always had a strong immune system.
In California, they’re arresting people for going into the ocean and riding a surfboard. And crushing businesses for daring to stay open. Elsewhere, they’re arresting pastors.
So, yes, they’re stopping people.
If someone with diabetes, high blood pressure and COPD, and has to ride around on a scooter to go anywhere, is shot and dies, did they die “by” gunshot, or “with” gunshot?
You may have a point there. Aren’t they in danger of losing their country and culture to “migrants” or was that everybody but Poland?
Swedes have been trying to kill off their population for 20 years.
Allowing Muslims,a nd third world immigrants in has seen rapes, murders, crime skyrocket, and yet they still ignore the facts.
The Wu Flu (not Corona Virus) is the least of Sweden’s problems.
The Mo-flu is far more dangerous.
And much more violent.
Leave it to a country other than the United States and without a Constitution enumerating a Bill of Rights to recognize freedom as a core value.
JoMa
RE: Go out and socialize. What are you missing out on?
Not everyone of course.
The elderly and those with serious pre-existing conditions regardless of age will be told to self isolate.
Aeaop’a fable of the fox and the fleas.
No silly, he dies of Covid 19
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