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IRS Stupidity
IRS IR-2020-61 ^ | 1 April, 2020 | NonValueAdded

Posted on 04/01/2020 2:14:16 PM PDT by NonValueAdded

This has got to be the stupidest thing I've heard yet out of our gubermint. First paragraph, last sentence:

"However, some seniors and others who typically do not file returns will need to submit a simple tax return to receive the stimulus payment."

SERIOUSLY??? We're all locking down, seniors are the most vulnerable, and the IRS is going to send them out to file a tax return they otherwise are not required to file??? What nimrod came up with that idea?


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: anotherstupidvanity; caresact; dsj02; its; seniors
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To: sheana

There are people without internet.


41 posted on 04/01/2020 2:43:30 PM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: NonValueAdded
Got you! Now we need more IRS agents to review the additional tax returns that we need. It's the law.

For those who don't live in DC, this is how the place works, not 10% but like 97%.

42 posted on 04/01/2020 2:44:46 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Responsibility2nd

why would you post something like that on a public forum?


43 posted on 04/01/2020 2:46:10 PM PDT by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: SkyDancer

Filing a claim with zero income???? This mess makes my head spin!! Can you imagine how many checks will kick back because people closed out their bank accounts or the checks that are mailed have to be returned or better yet, how many of those mailed checks will be forged and cashed?


44 posted on 04/01/2020 2:51:35 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: Red Badger

>> “If you are 65 or older, and your gross income is less than $13,850 then you don’t have to file.................”

And generally you do not have to include SS checks as income.


45 posted on 04/01/2020 2:51:39 PM PDT by 386wt (Something's odd about this census.)
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To: NonValueAdded

Does your tax software allow you to file a zero adjusted gross income return? ATX kicks them out.


46 posted on 04/01/2020 2:55:35 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: Red Badger

No their not unless the fraud goes back 25 or 30 years. There is a SS Master Death Index and when anyone dies that name is added to list and everything is cut off, SS, Credit Cards, etc.. If you died at the end of the month and got your automatic deposit, within a few days that is clawed back out of your account, it happened when my father passed.


47 posted on 04/01/2020 2:55:52 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: sheana

"Why would they have to go out? You can file the ez form online for free."


Not completely sure about this, but I don't believe they use the 1040-EZ forms anymore.   If I'm not mistaken, you have to use a regular 1040, or use the 1040-SR for seniors.   (Here's a couple links related to the seniors form.)

     "1040-SR - U.S. Tax Return for Seniors"

     "About Form 1040-SR, U.S. Tax Return for Seniors"

48 posted on 04/01/2020 2:56:01 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Trump.Deplorable

If someone is living of SS why would they get a check? That’s nothing more than a bonus. Same for retired people (and I’m retired) why would I get a $1200 check actually $2400 since the wife and I are both retired? We don’t work, we live off our retirements?


49 posted on 04/01/2020 2:56:17 PM PDT by maddog55
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To: Real Cynic No More

No. A leach is a welfare bum sponging off your taxes. One who takes and does not give back to the economy.

We need more people like my son in law who pays his own way and does not ask the gubmint for free cheese.


50 posted on 04/01/2020 2:58:21 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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To: hsmomx3

It’s actually always been advisable to file taxes even when you have zero income. Keeps your papertrail going which keeps you in government systems and provides a small amount of protection against ID theft. And many aid programs want to see a copy of your taxes. And you never know, with as many odd tax situations as we have, just because you have no income doesn’t mean the IRS won’t write you a check. You can pay nothing and be owed anyway.


51 posted on 04/01/2020 2:59:00 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: maddog55

Rham Emanuel left the playbook behind in the WH.
Trump is quarterback now.


52 posted on 04/01/2020 2:59:12 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: cherry

What is a loose job?


53 posted on 04/01/2020 3:00:27 PM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: maddog55

The point of this is NOT to make up for lost income. It’s to prime the well and get people spending money.


54 posted on 04/01/2020 3:01:59 PM PDT by discostu (I know that's a bummer baby, but it's got precious little to do with me)
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To: nickcarraway

“What else do you think the IRS, sitting at home in Mordor, is going recommend?”

After Dorkbama the Muslim eunuch quota boy pushed his felonious minions into the IRS, it was deemed too slimy for even Mordor.


55 posted on 04/01/2020 3:04:30 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: NonValueAdded
2 things I learned as a younger person:
1) Never underestimate the tendency of govt bureaucracy to make things more harder for the citizens.
2) Never argue with an idiot. They will beat you badly as they have unlimited expertise & skill in bad mouthing you with fictitious facts.

With these 2 situations here (The $1200 stimulus check + the Virus threat) expect to see not only stumbling & bumbling but also sabotage from bad actors.

56 posted on 04/01/2020 3:07:24 PM PDT by prophetic (Trump is today's DANIEL. Shut the mouth of lions Lord, let his enemies be the Cat Food instead.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

He’s using government services without paying taxes. The rest of us are picking up the slack. He’s a leach.


57 posted on 04/01/2020 3:09:36 PM PDT by Real Cynic No More (Make America Great. Prosecute Dems who break the law!)
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To: 386wt

Really? Then why does the lady doing my tax return ALWAYS list it and include the SS copy in the file?


58 posted on 04/01/2020 3:11:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: NonValueAdded

This senior does his taxes from the comfort of his home so I think your hype is a tad overdone


59 posted on 04/01/2020 3:16:23 PM PDT by ammomajor (If 'helicopter Ben' says gold isn't money, I want more of it.)
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To: Real Cynic No More

Once again you are very wrong. He pays sales taxes on everything he buys. He pays a gasoline tax every time he fills up. His landlord pays property taxes with the rent that he pays.

His income is so small that even if he were to have taxes withheld, he would get them all back as a refund.


60 posted on 04/01/2020 3:19:16 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (Click my screen name for an analysis on how HIllary wins next November.)
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