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Obesity, heart disease, and diabetes may be communicable
medicalexpress ^ | 01/17/2020

Posted on 01/19/2020 7:16:35 AM PST by devane617

The authors base their hypothesis on connections between three distinct lines of evidence. First, they demonstrate that people with a wide range of conditions, from obesity and inflammatory bowel disease to type 2 diabetes and cardiovascular disease, have altered microbiomes. Next, they show that altered microbiomes, when taken from diseased people and put into animal models, cause disease. Finally, they provide evidence that the microbiome is naturally transmissible, for example: Spouses who share a house have more similar microbiomes than twins who live separately.


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To: devane617

Heart disease communicable?
That’s silly.
Hear, try my cheddar spaghetti...


21 posted on 01/19/2020 7:52:12 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: fireman15

Agree:

>>Your gut microbiome is incredibly complex and one of the least understood yet most important aspects of human health. <<

What most posters don’t seem to get is the article is saying is that a persons microbiome is transferable to a healthy spouse or another non-blood related person. I finder that possible but chilling at the same time. Will people with Rheumatic diseases be isolated? How about heart disease or diabetes.


22 posted on 01/19/2020 7:58:07 AM PST by devane617 (Kyrie Eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

What is a “microbiome”? Can it cause democrat?


23 posted on 01/19/2020 7:58:25 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: fireman15
See H pylori: Treatment for the patient only or the whole family? for information on how H. Pylori is transmitted within families.
24 posted on 01/19/2020 7:58:32 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: babygene

Boy I’m 51 and there were (disgusting) times in my life into my FORTIES where I would eat a whole box of oreos at bedtime. Maybe 3 or more times a week for years while I was home recovering from an injury.

The rest of my diet at that time wasn’t any better.

My diet Before the injury wasn’t so great!

My weight went to horrific levels and when I got better I still ate terribly for another 5 years.

For 5 years now, at 51, i’ve been eating what I CALL a healthy diet. That’s a laugh :) But it’s not nearly like it was.

Yet my fasting tests never showed anything close to diabetes.

You read some health websites and it sounds like eating 4 Twinkies at one sitting one time can cause diabetes.

Perhaps it is genes.

Anyhow, i’m done taking chances or testing God’s patience.

It’s just odd that I didn’t get it.


25 posted on 01/19/2020 7:59:25 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: BipolarBob
I've read quite a bit of chatter on Metformin.
26 posted on 01/19/2020 8:00:14 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: fireman15

“Your gut microbiome is incredibly complex and one of the least understood...”

I sure don’t understand my gut!


27 posted on 01/19/2020 8:01:34 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bonemaker
"Can it cause a micribione?" Maybe. Because liberalism seems to be a contagious disease. 😆
28 posted on 01/19/2020 8:01:54 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: fruser1

“They need to set the bs “if it harms others” argument that they use to justify tobacco regulation and taxes.”

Double BS for sure. I recently read some quasi medical quack assert that going outside to smoke was still harmful to those indoors!


29 posted on 01/19/2020 8:05:39 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

metformin is a fine drug but you can be diabetes free. The key is intermittent fasting. The Diabetes Code explains it all. He has clinics where people walk out med free and diabetes free.


30 posted on 01/19/2020 8:07:13 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

I’ve read that folks who survive stomach surgery to reduce weight also no longer have the diabetes disease...


31 posted on 01/19/2020 8:16:19 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: devane617

I recall reading, a few years ago, that the bugs in you gut can excrete chemicals that cause you to crave the foods that the bug wants and lives on.


32 posted on 01/19/2020 8:18:18 AM PST by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: devane617
Will people with Rheumatic diseases be isolated? How about heart disease or diabetes.

Massive numbers of people from other parts of the world are migrating both legally and illegally into the country every year with almost no health screening at all. So I doubt that any attempts will be made to isolate people with diseases that are currently considered to be not contagious for a long time.

One time I was attending to a person with poor English skills who kept coughing in my face while he was trying to communicate something to me. I finally realized that he was pulling me close and saying “tee .... bee”. After that experience I was tested several times for tuberculosis and had less difficulty remembering to wear my protective gear.

33 posted on 01/19/2020 8:19:54 AM PST by fireman15
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Remember there are two types of diabetes.

I am a Type 1, but I still have people tell me if I lose weight or do some diet they’d heard about it will “go away”.

It’s such a pain planning everything you eat and having to compute insulin boluses.


34 posted on 01/19/2020 8:20:29 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (The prisons do not fill themselves. Get moving, Barr!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“This is the stupidest thing I have ever read”

That’s really saying something..given the many stupid things posted on FR.


35 posted on 01/19/2020 8:22:43 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Bonemaker

“What is a “microbiome”? Can it cause democrat?”

Finally, a good question. The answer is:
Only if it reaches the brain.


36 posted on 01/19/2020 8:25:32 AM PST by Leep (Everyday is Trump Day!)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

I know a person who had a laparoscopic adjustable gastric band installed. It is not considered to be a dangerous surgery and typically requires no hospitalization. After she lost a couple hundred pounds she had no more difficulty with type 2 diabetes.

I used to believe that the surgery was completely unneccesary, but after witnessing the results from people who struggled with obesity for decades... I an now an advocate.


37 posted on 01/19/2020 8:27:24 AM PST by fireman15
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To: devane617

I bet taking antibiotics changes peoples’ microbiomes.


38 posted on 01/19/2020 8:35:54 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democrats only believe in democracy when they win the election.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
True but they also have loose unsightly skin flaps and a compromised immune system for the rest of their lives plus digestive issues. And somewhere down the line you'll have your gall bladder removed (more digestive issues). Plus at least one that I know personally on top of all of that now has some food allergies they never had before. It's invasive and expensive whereas intermittent fasting costs nothing. And no side effects.
39 posted on 01/19/2020 8:37:02 AM PST by BipolarBob
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To: TalBlack

I can believe THAT! My gut wants Sugar...and it’s a daily battle.


40 posted on 01/19/2020 8:37:37 AM PST by goodnesswins (Want to know your family genealogy? Run for political office...")
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