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Only eat oysters in months with an 'r'? Rule of thumb is at least 4,000 years old
Eurekalert! ^ | November 20, 2019 | Florida Museum of Natural History

Posted on 11/27/2019 8:57:31 AM PST by SunkenCiv

Snails known as impressed odostomes, Boonea impressa, are common parasites of oysters, latching onto a shell and inserting a stylus to slurp the soft insides. Because the snail has a predictable 12-month life cycle, its length at death offers a reliable estimate of when the oyster host died, allowing Florida Museum of Natural History researchers Nicole Cannarozzi and Michal Kowalewski to use it as a tiny seasonal clock for when people collected and ate oysters in the past.

Stowaways on discarded oyster shells, the snails offer new insights into an old question about the shell rings that dot the coasts of Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and Mississippi.

"People have been debating the purpose of these shell rings for a very long time," said Cannarozzi, the study's lead author and Florida Museum environmental archaeology collection manager. "Were they everyday food waste heaps? Temporary communal feasting sites? Or perhaps a combination? Understanding the seasonality of the rings sheds new light on their function."

Cannarozzi and Kowalewski, Thompson Chair of Invertebrate Paleontology, analyzed oysters and snails from a 230-foot-wide, 4,300-year-old shell ring on St. Catherines Island and compared them with live oysters and snails. They found that island inhabitants were primarily harvesting oysters during late fall, winter and spring, which also suggested the presence of people on the island tapered off during the summer.

The seasonality of the shell ring may be one of the earliest records of sustainable harvesting, Cannarozzi said. Oysters in the Southeast spawn from May to October, and avoiding oyster collection in the summer may help replenish their numbers.

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TOPICS: History; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; blueoystercult; dietandcuisine; georgia; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; oyster; oysters; pearls
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To: V_TWIN

Yeppers!
Lynn’s Fine Oysters in Eastpoint and Boss Oyster in Apalachicola.
Boss Oyster was totaled by the hurricane and doesn’t look like it will re-open.
But Lynn’s is still in business.


21 posted on 11/27/2019 10:16:00 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: MisterArtery

We had a similar experience at the bar. The grilled ones are fantastic. I think we had 3 dozen.

L


22 posted on 11/27/2019 10:21:20 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: Jonty30

Waters are warmer in May, June, July, and August.


23 posted on 11/27/2019 10:25:09 AM PST by political1 (Love your neighbors)
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To: MisterArtery

i sued to shuck oysters for customers at a fairly high end restaurant— clams too- cut myself real bad one evening- bled everywhere- Lucky i didn’t get infection as sea stuff can cause them if you get it in a cut- soem pretty nasty stuff from what i hear- but i did get pretty good at it after awhile- we used to eat the oysters and clams o n halfshell at the end of the might because we couldn’t store the un-bought ones overnight- Never got a bad one-


24 posted on 11/27/2019 10:28:35 AM PST by Bob434
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To: Red Badger
Summertime, and the livin' is easy.
Water's warm, and bacteria's high...

George: You know, Ira, that just doesn't quite sound right.

25 posted on 11/27/2019 10:32:19 AM PST by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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To: Red Badger

“How would these native peoples even know when they spawn or how?”

There were a lot of things Native Americans which didn’t understand, one was some tribes did not venture underwater for anything, because what they couldn’t see baffled them with superstition and a type of fear of the unknown. But some tribes made their living off of sea creatures and fishes of all types.

Also some Native Americans were befuddled by staircases and had trouble negotiating them without resorting to crawling up stairs on all fours.

And I don’t think I’m disparaging Native Americans in general as in the natural they were superbly outfitted with generations of experience and knowledge gained for being closely associated with the natural landscape.


26 posted on 11/27/2019 10:34:28 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Clutch Martin

While all that may be true, I still say they ate them in the summer they got sick, so they waited until fall, no problems..................


27 posted on 11/27/2019 10:36:27 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: SunkenCiv
I hail from Baton Rouge, so yeah, they’re awesome down there, but my father says there’s a shortage right now. Love me some oyster dressing at Thanksgiving! Anyhow, my all time favorite oysters where experienced at Calves in Brisbane. Oysters Kilpatrick. Charbroiled with bacon and Worchesterschire sauce, their version, which is a bit sweeter. Their bacon is a bit on the Canadian side too. Can eat dozens. DOZENS!

Always amazed me they don’t have them everywhere in Louisiana yet.

28 posted on 11/27/2019 10:47:12 AM PST by Dogbert41 (Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!)
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To: SunkenCiv

The same Rule applies to Mallomars.

You can skirt it by freezing some for the “off” Months.


29 posted on 11/27/2019 10:52:32 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Kill a Commie for your Mommy.)
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To: Red Badger

Im sure that something like that was the reason. There are other old sayings like that for a number of things and they have different reasons behind each. Two others that come to mind just related to the “never in a month without an R” are harvesting venison and horseradish.


30 posted on 11/27/2019 11:13:05 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Everyone knows the old maxim about oysters increasing your sexual powers. Like most myths it is a canard. Whenever I ate a dozen or more, they only worked about 8 times on average.


31 posted on 11/27/2019 11:35:32 AM PST by wildbill (Don't piss me off. The older I get, the less "Life in Prison" means to me)
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To: V_TWIN

I’ll have to try them next time.. I am a Wellfleet fan myself.


32 posted on 11/27/2019 11:37:02 AM PST by Shady (One More Time: CO2 is PLANT FOOD! Without it we die. Any questions?)
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To: SunkenCiv
We rented an apartment in Paris over the holidays years ago. When we returned from Christmas Eve services at the American Cathedral we found a huge line at the fishmongers buying oysters. They had crates stacked.

Turns out oysters are traditional Christmas fare there. The chocolate yule logs were amazing, too.

33 posted on 11/27/2019 11:46:24 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: gnarledmaw

“Two others that come to mind just related to the “never in a month without an R” are harvesting venison and horseradish.”

Rabbits and squirrels as well due to tularemia.
Nasty illness commonly known as rabbit fever or deer fly fever. Commonly attacks the skin, eyes, lymph nodes and lungs.
Even with prompt treatment the illness can last several months.


34 posted on 11/27/2019 11:46:34 AM PST by oldvirginian (Punishment, to be effective, must be both cruel and unusual. Otherwise it is not feared.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Months with an “R” didn’t exist 4,000 years ago.


35 posted on 11/27/2019 12:08:39 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: SunkenCiv

Vibrio vulnificus is the bacteria that is more active in coastal waters during warm weather, it’s what’s usually the cause of getting sick from oysters, it’s also the flesh eating bacteria that’ll really mess you up if it gets into an open wound.

Like many other things, ancient people might not have known the reason they got sick from eating oysters in the summer but they could observe it happening and were plenty smart enough to avoid it. The old saying of “if it hurts when you do that then don’t do that” applies. Many things we consider to be wives tales had their root in practical reality like Jewish kosher rules. Ancient Jews might not have known why they got sick when they ate pork but they could see it happening so they decided pork was bad. We know now that pigs raised outdoors are usually full of parasites and you can make it safe by cooking it thoroughly. Internal thermometers weren’t really a thing then so all they knew was when people ate pork they got sick.

If there’s an old rule like the “only eat oysters in months with R” there’s usually a reason behind it. That might or might not still be applicable based upon modern practices but it’s never a good idea to dismiss them out of hand, there’s usually a reason behind them. Ancient people weren’t stupid, they just didn’t have access to the information we do now.


36 posted on 11/27/2019 12:35:20 PM PST by GaryCrow
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To: dainbramaged

Kumamoto are great, have you ever had shigoku oysters?


37 posted on 11/27/2019 12:41:30 PM PST by 31R1O
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To: 31R1O

I’ve been meaning to buy some shigokus, haven’t tried them yet. Taylor Shellfish Farms is a big producer locally, their facility is about 12 miles from us - pass me a lemon wedge, please.


38 posted on 11/27/2019 12:50:22 PM PST by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, rescue a pit bull.)
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To: bk1000

I read somewhere that it was more of a sexual cycle thing. After the oysters had expended all their energy making new oysters, there just wasn’t a lot of meat on the bones, so to speak. :)

Don’t know if that’s the reason, though. I’ve read a lot of stuff that isn’t so.


39 posted on 11/27/2019 1:02:16 PM PST by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: chesley

Only months with an R in the name.

Well that eliminates
May June July August


40 posted on 11/27/2019 1:07:01 PM PST by deport
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