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Warp Drive Is Theoretically Possible
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Posted on 09/27/2019 10:52:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

Warp drive is one of the many futuristic ideas proposed in Star Trek, allowing for faster-than-light travel across the galaxy. Einstein's Theory of Relativity prevents anything from moving faster than light.

In 1994, a theoretical physicist proposed a workaround: creating a bubble within space-time that would twist distances, allowing anything within the bubble to travel long distances. Many think it makes theoretical sense, but is practically unworkable.

An undergrad at the University of Alabama wants to restart the conversation, and he's focused on how much energy such a bubble would need.

Star Trek's science fiction has been intermingled with real-life science for decades. The franchise has inspired technologies that people use and study every day, and now a mechanical engineering student at the University of Alabama in Huntsville wants to bring forth another one: warp drive.

Warp drive is fundamental to the world of Star Trek, as it's the crucial component to superluminal starships. Without these super-fast ships that run on warp drive, we can't become a space-faring species. Thus, warp drive is tremendously important to humanity's evolution.

But Einstein's Theory of Relativity kind of throws a wrench into the whole thing, since nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.

"As objects travel faster and faster, they get heavier and heavier—the heavier they get, the harder it is to achieve acceleration, so you never get to the speed of light," Roger Rassool, a physicist at the University of Melbourne, Australia, once told the BBC. Only things with no mass, like photons, can travel at those tremendous speeds. That certainly rules out massive ships like the Enterprise.

In 1994, the theoretical physicist Miguel Alcubierre developed a theoretical workaround, which has come to be known as the Alcubierre drive. "By a purely local expansion of spacetime behind the spaceship and an opposite contraction in front of it," Alcubierre wrote in his paper's abstract, "motion faster than the speed of light as seen by observers outside the disturbed region is possible."

Essentially, an Alcubierre drive would expend a tremendous amount of energy to contract and twist space-time in front of it and create a bubble. Inside that bubble would be a inertial reference frame where explorers would feel no proper acceleration. The rules of physics would still apply within the bubble, but the ship would be localized outside of space.

The engineering student, Joseph Agnew, wants to explore the idea. "Mathematically, if you fulfill all the energy requirements, they can’t prove that it doesn’t work," he recently said at a standing-room only talk on the subject.

"Suppose you have a craft that’s in the bubble," he continues, quoted in a university press release on the talk. "What you would do is, you’d compress space-time ahead of the craft and expand space-time behind it."

The energy required to create an Alcubierre bubble would be immense. Some scientists believe it would require more energy than available within the universe, although others maintain the energy levels would be physically attainable. Agnew believes it can go down further.

"People used to say, ‘You’re dealing in something that would be great, but it takes the mass of the entire universe to do it,’" Agnew said. "Now, we’re down to where it is still an immense amount of energy and exotic matter is still a problem, but if we had that energy, we could do it."

After five to eight years of theoretical work, Agnew said, "it’s been reduced by many, many orders of magnitude."

To remove the fictional element of the bubbles, Agnew would want to start small. "Some people have approached it on a spacecraft-size scale, like what will it take to do this at that really large range, and some have approached it from a ‘Can we create this effect in a lab and then scale it up?’ perspective," he said. Even the smallest bubble would be a tremendous scientific breakthrough.

Of course, there's more to travel than just being able to generate enough energy to create a road. There's also the not-insignificant matter of surviving the trip.

"On one side, an observer located at the center of a superluminal warp-drive bubble would generically experience a thermal flux of Hawking particles," reads the abstract to a study from 2009 that discusses theorized Hawking radiation, a theoretical type of radiation released by black holes.

"On the other side, such Hawking flux will be generically extremely high if the exotic matter supporting the warp drive has its origin in a quantum field satisfying some form of Quantum Inequalities." The Hawking radiation would theoretically kill anyone who attempted to enter such a bubble.

So there's a long road ahead. But that's not deterring Agnew. He's curious about exploring the field further, on one condition: funding.

"The interest in doing something in this field is going to be there if someone has the money," he said. "This is just one of several areas I am interested in. If the opportunity is there to do it, I’ll pursue it."


TOPICS: Astronomy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: faultypremise; scifi; startrek; stringtheory; warpdrive
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To: JimRed

You wont, you are outside of the universes space/time...


61 posted on 09/27/2019 12:54:28 PM PDT by phs3 (MAGA - Winning a little more every day!!!)
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To: Viking2002

That is only on the base models. If you spring for the GT package, then you don’t have that problem. As a bonus, you get leather seats.


62 posted on 09/27/2019 12:55:58 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Red Badger

Since Ray Bradbury copy writed/wrote (Sp?) the idea, shouldn’t his estate get at least .00001$ per warp mile traveled?


63 posted on 09/27/2019 1:02:50 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Army Air Corps
Yeah, I hear the package includes subspace Sirius/XM radio, too, with a five light-year subscription.

About ten years ago, I used to bust Roberto Orci's balls in a chat room and kept telling him that I wanted racing flames painted down the sides of one of the shuttlecraft in the new Star Trek movie. He finally said he'd bring it up with the FX folks.

I never did get my racing flames.

64 posted on 09/27/2019 1:06:38 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Manly Warrior

copyrighted..................


65 posted on 09/27/2019 1:11:06 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Viking2002

Flames would be cool. Pinstripes would also work.


66 posted on 09/27/2019 1:17:18 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Calvin Locke
There's a Mexican physicist............... What are the odds of that?
67 posted on 09/27/2019 1:20:03 PM PDT by umgud
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To: null and void
Suppose the aether swirls like the eddies around an oar

This isn't an aether/oar question.

68 posted on 09/27/2019 1:23:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Red Badger

We can’t even put a man on Mars yet, and realistically, we don’t even have a really good reason to try.

Maybe we should take things one step at a time.


69 posted on 09/27/2019 2:28:12 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

There’s no good reason to go to Mars.

Robots work just fine.

But that should not stop us from going to the stars................


70 posted on 09/27/2019 2:31:17 PM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: Mr. K

Lmao Art Bell ...? he is dead to me


71 posted on 09/27/2019 2:33:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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A universe run by Barney The Purple Dinosaur is also ‘theoretically’ (termed ‘hypothetically’ maybe more accurately...) possible.

‘Infinite Multiple Universes’ based on that M-World “universe splits into multiple new additional ones every time two quarks collide” hypothesis (the one that breaks about every other physical law simply to explain the Wave vs Particle Light paradox), which even pulp fiction writers were long ago tired of ...


72 posted on 09/27/2019 2:34:45 PM PDT by elbook
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To: JimRed

“So at warp 5 you’re going five times the speed of light?”

Well, in Star Trek the warp scale was more exponential than geometric.


73 posted on 09/27/2019 2:35:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: magellan

Oh please we have only got 11 or so years left


74 posted on 09/27/2019 2:39:15 PM PDT by al baby (Hi Mom Hi Dad)
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To: null and void
"If you look at an eddies in the 2 dimensional water model"


75 posted on 09/27/2019 2:40:19 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Red Badger

“But that should not stop us from going to the stars................”

That’s not stopping us from going to the stars. Pretty much the entire design of the universe is stopping us.

But beyond that little fact, there is also the fact that everywhere we look in the universe just seems a whole hellofa lot less interesting, appealing, and habitable than the place we are already stuck on.


76 posted on 09/27/2019 2:43:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: bigbob

You play sto?


77 posted on 09/27/2019 2:46:29 PM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: Army Air Corps

LOL Pinstripes come with the GT package and alloy rims.


78 posted on 09/27/2019 2:54:04 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Red Badger

Thanks! And it ought to be Gene Roddenberry, not Ray Bradbury- I get those pesky SciFi dudes confused....


79 posted on 09/27/2019 3:48:58 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Red Badger

What the theoretical scientists fail to realize is that, in order to bend space-time to create their ‘worm-hole’, space and time become separated, and nothing can exist within space alone if time is destroyed and space disappears.

I know that first-hand. In a mind-bending theory which imagined, time and space are impossible to separate and still create that which the theorists above propose.


80 posted on 09/27/2019 3:53:26 PM PDT by adorno
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