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First measurements of 'interstellar comet' [C/2019 Q4 (Borisov)]
BBC ^ | 17 September 2019 | Paul Rincon

Posted on 09/18/2019 1:15:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin

The team used the Osiris instrument at the 10.4m Gran Telescopio Canarias in La Palma, Spain, to obtain visible spectra - measurements of sunlight reflected by Borisov.

By studying these spectra, scientists can draw conclusions about its chemical composition, including how it might differ from comets that were "born" around the Sun.

"The spectrum is the red side of the comet's total spectrum, so the only thing we can see in the spectrum is the slope," said Miquel Serra Ricart, from the Instituto de Astrofísica de Canarias (IAC) in Tenerife.

In coming days, the team will obtain measurements of the "blue" part of the comet's spectrum. These are expected to be more informative as regards its composition. They could reveal whether it contains organic (carbon-based) molecules, such as cyanide (CN) - seen in Solar System comets.

So while the data so far suggests that Borisov resembles objects found close to home, the scientists could yet see interesting deviations when they analyse upcoming data.

Dr Simon Porter from the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, Texas, told Science in Action: "'Oumuamua never showed any cometary activity; there was no outgassing as far as we could detect - and a lot of people looked. This one is outgassing like crazy and it's bright."

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: 2iborisov; astronomy; borisov; c2019q4; c2019q4borisov; carbon; catastrophism; comet; comet2iborisov; comets; cyanide; firstmeasurements; hyperbolic; interstellar; interstellarcomet; nitrogen; oumuamua; science; starshiptroopers; xplanets

1 posted on 09/18/2019 1:15:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: SunkenCiv

gnip


2 posted on 09/18/2019 1:15:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Oumuamua and its twin (little noted - only one report) were scouts, Borisov is the system killer. S. Hawking was right. Too late now.


3 posted on 09/18/2019 3:35:39 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BenLurkin

Outgassing or drive plume???


4 posted on 09/18/2019 3:40:46 PM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: BenLurkin

Zathras knows the first shot missed....
Actually in geologic history, their have been period bombardment.
It is possible this might be part of a normal cycle.

It wasn’t the Centari who did it this time.


5 posted on 09/18/2019 4:47:21 PM PDT by Zathras
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To: BenLurkin

NASA / JPL-Caltech


6 posted on 09/18/2019 5:30:20 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Thank you! Very cool.


7 posted on 09/18/2019 5:45:13 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin; 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AnalogReigns; AndrewC; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.



8 posted on 09/18/2019 6:42:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: BenLurkin

Do we know yet if this one is going to be visible from Earth?


9 posted on 09/18/2019 6:54:51 PM PDT by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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To: BenLurkin
Thanks for the interesting post!

Several years ago, I was in a discussion with someone who claimed humans would never travel outside our solar system.

One means of doing so, I suggested, would be to hitch a ride on (colonize) some interstellar object. Their reply at the time was "there's no such thing, and bla, ..."

These recent discoveries have increased the possibility my original idea may actually have merit. Certainly it proves the other guy/gal, in my past discussion, was wrong! ;)

An other possibility, because these objects demand to be investigated, would be to plant evidence of our existence on them. Perhaps even a radio beacon powered by a radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG), using maybe Americium-241 with a half-life of almost 500 years, and designed to power up the transmitter periodically for several thousand years.

Meanwhile, I hope these newly discovered visitors aren't a prelude to ever increasing numbers, eventually putting our tranquil passage through this a quiet corner of space in jeopardy!

10 posted on 09/18/2019 7:20:17 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Zathras

I thought it was the Vorlons who had the planet-killer.


11 posted on 09/18/2019 7:22:37 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: DNME

I think only really good telescopes will see it.


12 posted on 09/18/2019 8:08:57 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin; DNME
Another article about it: :)

Trajectory:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/9962068/mystery-object-approaching-us-from-interstellar-space-could-be-alien-spacecraft-top-scientist-admits/

13 posted on 09/19/2019 9:59:50 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

What?!?!?

No Cloaking Device?


14 posted on 09/19/2019 10:01:59 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: N. Theknow


15 posted on 09/19/2019 10:10:57 AM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous

Kind of near the asteroid belt, yes?


16 posted on 09/19/2019 10:14:16 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Yes, it will be passing thru it...


17 posted on 09/19/2019 6:18:53 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: amorphous; SunkenCiv

Even a small object like this might push or drag asteroids.out of the belt, I think.


18 posted on 09/19/2019 6:36:15 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin
Certainly some small objects could completely disrupt orbits of asteroids in the belt and even the planets. Neutron stars have a radius on the order of 10 kilometres (6.2 mi) and a mass of about 1.4 solar masses. It's estimated there are 100 million neutron stars in the galaxy. Then there are the other theorized forms of matter with strong gravitation fields, such as quark stars, and black holes.

If they've got a good read on the trajectory of C/2019 Q4, then I don't think it will have the mass to cause any issue at all, unless it strikes some other object as it passes through the asteroid belt, because the curvature of the trajectory indicates its mass doesn't appear to be that great.

My concern is the fact that we've recently witnessed two such interstellar objects transiting our solar system in a very short time frame, objects never recorded before now. Unless improvements in observation are the reason, something may have changed in our corner of space. It may be getting more crowed.

I think if we find a third one, this new phenomenon is going to get everyone's attention.

19 posted on 09/20/2019 9:23:56 AM PDT by amorphous
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