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Black hole shock: Our universe could be INSIDE a black hole – shock claim
UK Express ^ | Sept. 5, 2019 | Sean Martin

Posted on 09/05/2019 11:38:45 AM PDT by Innovative

BLACK holes could be a portal to another universe and our cosmos could have been born from one, a scientist has sensationally claimed.

While the accepted theory on the universe began is the big bang, there are other equally baffling theories. One such is that our universe was born from a black hole opening in another parallel universe and that each black hole in our cosmos could be a gateway to another universe. At the beginning of time, 13.8 billion years ago, there was a dense and super-hot energetic point where the laws of physics did not apply – what is known as a singularity.

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To: Innovative

My Brother watches this kind of non sense and even he laughs when everything they think cannot be explained in moments of rational thought reverts to the catch all Science duct tape of Dark Matter and Black Holes which if you follow them do not behave as they posit they will

Hi class comedy, much ado about nothing in my book

One of my faves is the solar sail the size of Texas to sail around the Universe as if that were possible. And also what if you get to another planet and it is already populated, who says they are gonna hold a parade and welcome you in...

Funny Stuff, Science Fantasy


81 posted on 09/05/2019 2:24:40 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Innovative

The Big Bang implies that all the mass of the universe was at one point at the beginning. And certainly if that were the case then it would have to be a black hole. The theory is that nothing can get out of a black hole so it follows that if the universe once was a black hole then it still is.


82 posted on 09/05/2019 2:56:53 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Innovative
So... They are postulating that the universe originated in DC???

Hmmm... Might explain a lot of things...

83 posted on 09/05/2019 3:39:32 PM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: fso301
"present physical laws only have meaning within our own universe, the theories invariably require some aspect of our universe to have been present before the singularity."

THE singularity? A singularity is a mathematical concept, not a physical reality. Some physical things may be treated mathematically as a singularity even if they are not actually infinitely small. Whether a black hole hundreds of light years away is infinitely small, or not is irrelevant. The math works. The odds are pretty good that you can't really pack all the mass making up a black hole into a spot that has no volume.

84 posted on 09/05/2019 3:57:23 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: Innovative

The ‘theory’ that the universe is all a giant fluffy cat is actually more scientifically sound.


85 posted on 09/05/2019 4:05:08 PM PDT by elbook
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To: Dave Wright

Sounds reasoned Dave.

If something was powerful enough to capture light, it stood to reason it would have a massive gravitational pull on anything caught within it’s grip.

I’ve never understood if we would be crushed or something else, but I didn’t see it as a benign to humans spacial object.

It seemed to me it would have to be lethal, but I don’t know if there is an effect that nullifies the effects so that we wouldn’t be harmed.

It’s simply been a curiosity to me.


86 posted on 09/05/2019 4:45:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (This space for rent.)
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To: Innovative

I postulated this theory right here on FreeRepublic a couple of weeks ago.


87 posted on 09/05/2019 4:58:57 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim ( The following statement is false. The previous statement is true.)
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To: PapaBear3625

What caused the Big Bang? What was behind the cause? What than was the origins of the cause and what did it develop from? what was behind the development of the development? Gee this is some far out crap!


88 posted on 09/05/2019 6:14:25 PM PDT by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Whoops, thanks fmdj.

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3776757/posts?page=53#53


89 posted on 09/05/2019 6:39:45 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: norwaypinesavage
THE singularity? A singularity is a mathematical concept, not a physical reality. Some physical things may be treated mathematically as a singularity even if they are not actually infinitely small. Whether a black hole hundreds of light years away is infinitely small, or not is irrelevant. The math works. The odds are pretty good that you can't really pack all the mass making up a black hole into a spot that has no volume.

Regardless of size, if all present physical laws came into being with the Big Bang, any attempt to describe conditions prior to the Big Bang using constructs from our present universe are invalid.

90 posted on 09/05/2019 6:40:11 PM PDT by fso301
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To: billyboy15

This brings to mind that startling paper/article posted a while back by the physics department at the University of California, Riverside:


       "Is the Big Bang a black hole?"


If you take the time to check out that link, you'll see that the last section in that article is entitled "Even so, could the Big Bang be a black or white hole?".   (Quite frankly, I wouldn't touch that question with a ten-foot pole!)

91 posted on 09/05/2019 6:42:08 PM PDT by Songcraft
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To: Innovative

Being inside a black hole is Milo Yanoppoloulis’ most earnest fantasy.


92 posted on 09/05/2019 6:54:16 PM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (When your business model depends on slave labor, you're always going to need more slaves.)
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To: Innovative

Can one detect Black holes if one is in a Black Hole? What would that scenario mean about the scale of things - can intelligence exist at smaller than atom scale?


93 posted on 09/06/2019 3:56:40 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: fso301
"all present physical laws came into being with the Big Bang"

That's a new one I hadn't heard before. We've been asked to believe in "Inflation", a time after the big bang where the laws of physics didn't apply. Now you're telling me that before the big bang the laws of physics didn't even exist. That's quite a religion you have there.

94 posted on 09/06/2019 4:54:16 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: norwaypinesavage
Now you're telling me that before the big bang the laws of physics didn't even exist.

Laws of physics as they exist in our universe. When one goes backwards to the singularity, all the laws of physics break down. Time, gravity, laws of thermodynamics, periodic table of elements, etc all came into existence after the Big Bang.

Therefore, events before the Big Bang cannot be defined, because there's no way one can measure within our universe what happened prior to the big bang.

That's quite a religion you have there.

No, it would be a religion if I believed it. I only accept what physicists theorize about it with full awareness that they are only theorizing.

95 posted on 09/06/2019 5:36:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301
You keep writing "the singularity", as if there is only one. My original point was that a singularity is a mathematical concept, not a physical reality. There is no evidence that singularities can even exist in the physical world. Many things can be treated as singularities, and the mathematics describing their characteristics describes them just fine even though they really don't exist as such. Accepting the big bang as a singularity makes a whole lot of assumptions that are just that - assumptions.

The big bang theory is just that - a theory. It may even be mostly correct. The fact, though, that there are properties of the theory that don't meet observations doesn't necessarily mean that the physics are wrong. It may mean that the theory is incomplete.

96 posted on 09/06/2019 6:55:14 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: norwaypinesavage
My original point was that a singularity is a mathematical concept, not a physical reality.

As a lay person, I understand that. I also understand that the singularity referred to as the Big Bang is a mathematical concept from which our physical reality arose. But the mathematical concept was the result of attempts to explain observation data suggesting a single point of origin for the expanding universe.

There is no evidence that singularities can even exist in the physical world.

Yet, there is observable evidence that our physical world arose from a singularity... a singularity which occurred in a state we are unable to adequately describe.

Accepting the big bang as a singularity makes a whole lot of assumptions that are just that - assumptions.

True but what better explanations are there for known observations such as red shifts and background microwave radiation?

97 posted on 09/06/2019 7:28:14 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301
"Yet, there is observable evidence that our physical world arose from a singularity... a singularity which occurred in a state we are unable to adequately describe."

Since "we are unable to adequately describe" your singularity, how can you call it "observable evidence"? You are making my point. The mathematical "singularity" does not adequately describe observable reality - unless you also say that "the laws of physics don't apply".

98 posted on 09/06/2019 7:49:44 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Calm down and enjoy the ride, great things are happening for our country)
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To: dp0622

Why?
What part of the idea is not feasible at all?


Leprechauns ate my breakfast this morning.

That is feasible, but you would laugh at that. Why? Just because you have an idea does not make it feasible.


99 posted on 09/06/2019 1:51:47 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

These guys would put that idea out there and no think of THAT?

Listen I don’t know about any of this so if you know any physics or astronomy or whatever you know more than so i’ll take your word on it :)

Ciao


100 posted on 09/06/2019 4:17:23 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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