Posted on 06/29/2019 6:34:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
If you are born in Guam or Puerto Rico, you are automatically granted citizenship. If you are born in American Samoa, that isn't the case. Despite American Samoa's status as a U.S. territory, the people who are born there aren't technically U.S. citizens. They're called U.S. nationals, a status that means they pay American taxes but cannot vote, run for office, or serve on a jury. They also have special passports that declare them nationals, but not U.S. citizens.
do you have to be a N BC to be in the army. i know samoans who served and are not citizens but US Nationals here in Oceanside. Mexican serve also
Put a fork in it
This is a fool’s errand
the search for truth and the meaning of the constitution is never foolish What is foolish and unamerican into give ion to the scoundrels
Mike Gabbard her father was born on Samoa.. How can he run for office in Hawaii?
I don’t believe Kamala Harris is eligible either.
Me neither! She is an anchor baby!
you didn’t read the info about being born in Samoa. i suggest you are in no position to assign research till you do anomie homework yourself.
LOL I should listen to you rather than an article posted on national geographic about Samoa with court cases cited. . Wow.
BRAVO! If more people like you speak up, we may have the possibilty of getting this Article III matter adjudicated by the SCOTUS for the 1st time ever. If we don’t speak up it most cvertainly never will. As things stand now, the odds are long against it being accomplished.
Were her mother’s parents citizens of the United States or legal immigrants etc?
Gabbard was born on January 15, 1948 in Fagatogo, American Samoa, the fourth of seven children of Aknesis Agnes (Yandall) and Benjamin Harrison Gabbard, Jr. He is of Samoan and European descent. He was a U.S. citizen from birth because of his father’s U.S. citizenship
on wiki with no citation
Don’t know the law in 1948 regarding samoa.
You don’t have to be a US citizen to serve in the US Armed Forces. Just a valid Green Card, pass the physical, mental tests, pass the background check, and take the oath of allegiance.
Going back, to her great grandfather..
Benjamin Harrison Gabbard, Sr (1889-1932).
Benjamin came to American Samoa as a naval seaman in the late 19 teens and met and married Caroline Bartley of Western Samoa. He died in 1932 and is buried in the Satala Cemetery in American Samoa. Born in Boonesville, Jackson County, KY
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/67421070/benjamin-harrison-gabbard
How Electors are appointed is exclusively a State matter.
You are correct that States which allow voting as the method for appointment of Electors could put a screening process for eligibility to the office in place - or they could not.
refer you to Clay Blair’s excellent study of the Korean War, “The Forgotten War”, page 146. I quote LTC Mike Michaelis, who had just been given command of the US Army’s 27th Wolfhound Regiment, and was ordered to immediately deploy from Japan to Korea in July of 1950. “We’d just had our first child-a daughter. The only thing I had time to do was rush to the American Consulate with my wife and get our daughter certified so that SHE WOULDN’T BE A JAPANESE CITIZEN. I put twenty-five dollars, a razor, and tooth brush in my pocket and took off.” His daughter was born in the US Army hospital on Honshu.
Japan had regained it’s sovereignty at that time, and it’s citizenship laws were in effect. Japanese citizenship law held that ANYONE born on Japanese soil was a Japanese citizen. However, the US and Japan had concluded Status of Forces Agreements concerning the children born to US military personnel on Japanese soil. US military bases were LEASED from the Japanese government to the US for use as bases. They were still considered to be Japanese soil. If they were US soil, then the child of a pregnant Japanese worker delivering on a US base would be a 14th amendment citizen, just as if she had delivered in the US Embassy, which is US soil. With the SOFA agreement in place at that time, the Japanese citizenship of their daughter was waived, and the child would be exclusively a US citizen, (not natural born, but by US immigration and naturalization statutes extant at the time,(in the manner of Ted Cruz)
Both Michaelis AND his wife were natural born US citizens, serving their country overseas. Despite this, the location of their daughter’s birth makes her not even a 14th amendment citizen, but a statute citizen via the existing US Immigration and Naturalization laws.
I don’t like this reality, I don’t think that it is fair, but I did not write Article II. Children born overseas to parents serving overseas are NOT NBC’s.
It's all academic since she will never become President or Vice President.
“I don’t believe Kamala Harris is eligible either.”
A LOT here DO, and haughtily tell us, LITERALLY, “NBC is an outdated concept”.
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3749544/posts?page=30
Our domestic enemies here, especially the “consistent conservatives”, have their own preferred ineligible candidates they’d like to see in the White House.
From the LA times April 6 2018
They are called American Samoans. But many residents of the U.S. territory — an archipelago in the South Pacific Ocean — don’t feel American. That’s because people born in American Samoa are not U.S. citizens UNLESS ONE OF THEIR PARENTS IS A CITIZEN.
Alailima was born in American Samoa but is a U.S. citizen because his mother was a U.S. citizen. The 2010 U.S. census reported 109,637 American Samoans in the United States, or 184,440 when people with partial American Samoan ancestry were included.
American Samoans are not allowed to vote in federal, state or local elections and can’t run for elected office, serve on a jury or apply for certain government jobs that require the candidates to be U.S. citizens.
People of American Samoan heritage in the public eye include Tulsi Gabbard, who has represented Hawaii’s 2nd Congressional District since 2013; Siala-Mou Siliga, also known as Mighty Mo — a heavyweight boxer, kickboxer and mixed martial arts expert; and actor Al Harrington, best known for his role as Det. Ben Kokua on the original “Hawaii Five-O” on CBS.
Initially, no U.S. territorial island residents received citizenship, Erman said. A series of Supreme Court opinions in the early 1900s, known as the “Insular Cases,” established different rules for “incorporated territories” such as Arizona and New Mexico, which were considered to be en route to becoming U.S. states, and for “unincorporated territories,” which were not. There are now five inhabited unincorporated territories — Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, the Northern Mariana Islands and American Samoa.
The unincorporated territories were never expected to have a shot at statehood or citizenship, until Congress decided to add them on a case-by-case basis over the years, Erman said.
Lawsuit
The State Department’s policy and practice of refusing to recognize birthright citizenship of people born in American Samoa “violates the Fourteenth Amendment,” according to the lawsuit. This article of the U.S. Constitution states that all people born in the U.S. “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,” are citizens.
It looks to me we’re down to she wasn’t born in the US but a jurisdiction thereof.
Hee mother was a U.S. citizen and so she is natural born. Well, except for Birthers.
I support the children of active duty military overseas being NBC, but that would require an amendment IMO that’s why the resolution on McCain was unconstitutional. They knew he didn’t for the constitutional requirement
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