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How Strong Is The U.S. Economy?
Global Macro Monitor ^ | 05/14/2019

Posted on 05/14/2019 1:51:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Not as strong as many, including President Trump believes.

Econ_Forecast

 

GDP growth and even the jobs data, including the unemployment rate, though fairly sunny, look deceptively strong and need a deeper look, which we have provided for you over the past few weeks. See here.

How Will The Economy Hold Up As Trade War Escalates?

More important, is the U.S. economy so strong it can withstand an escalation in the trade war with China?

We seriously doubt it and fully expect Trump will be forced to cave on some of his completely unrealistic demands. We have been consistent from day one: China will never give up its sovereignty by changing the structure of its economy.

Seriously, folks, do you really think the Middle Kingdom, with all its history and past glory, after climbing back to global superpower status, is now going to cave and give up some of its sovereignty because Trump demands it?

President Xi already seems to be preparing his population for the worst case scenario, warning of “challenging times ahead” possibly in the event Trump goes ahead with the tariff hikes. Maybe we are reading too much into it and maybe not. – GMM, Feb 12th

So much for the “Art of Deal.” Greed kills.

Trump and his hardliners don’t seem or care to understand Chinese culture and the concept of shi miàn zi (面子),” or losing face. Xi can’t back down now and if Trump takes the next step in the trade war, China will be forced to match tit-for-tat, lest the country’s leadership looks weak and loses face.

We still believe there will be a “deal”, though one with little gain that has already caused lots of pain. Potemkin and toothless, just as NAFTA 2.0 and KORUS, but will be sold as the “greatest deal ever made.”

GDP Growth Distorted In Q1

We unpacked the 3.2 percent Q1 GDP post and found it much weaker than the headline number conveyed.

The number was much weaker than it appeared.

Private domestic demand (also known as real final sales to private domestic purchasers) –personal consumption + nonresidential and residential fixed investment – which is the traditional driver of robust and sustained economic growth contributed less than 35 percent to Friday’s headline growth number. This was the lowest proportional level since Q4 2009.

The bulk of GDP growth came from the combination of a big inventory build, net exports, and government spending (see table below).

…we ran the numbers and found that 5 of the 15 quarters after such similar aberrational 3 percent plus growth as was the case in Q1 2019, where private domestic demand’s contribution was so small, experienced negative growth. Only 3 of the 15 quarters did economic growth accelerate.

The average growth deceleration of this sample was 435 bps quarter on quarter. — GMM, April 28th

The Atlanta Fed’s Q2 GDP Now forecast, which was spot on early in Q1 that growth was much stronger than what the market socialists, who were calling for an emergency Fed rate cut to bail out the stock market, were forecasting and panicking over.

The GDP Now latest forecast has Q2 coming in around 1-1.5 percent but we believe this was posted before the latest escalation in the trade war.

GDP_Now

 

The increased stock market volatility, coupled with the huge spike in economic uncertainty caused by the ratcheting up of tensions, will almost certainly depress consumer and capital spending even more and likely shave several bps off Q2 growth. We wouldn’t be surprised to see the Blue Chip consensus forecast, which is now over 2.5 percent for Q2, cut in half in the next month, and the probability of the actual number coming in less than 1 percent, is increasing by the day.

Not such a strong economy, in our book.

Maybe the Chinese negotiators get it and the Trump team has yet to receive the memo.

Labor Market: Employment and Unemployment Rate

The labor or jobs market is still humming along in the nonfarm sector, almost exactly as it has been since October 2010, when the labor market fully recovered. The monthly increase in nonfarm payrolls in 2019 is averaging 205k, just a smidgen above 201k monthly average since the positive streak began in October 2010.

Strong and decent growth, neither showing a sustained acceleration or deceleration. The strongest jobs market ever? You decide.

Employment_NFPs

Wages

Nonfarm real average hourly earnings have picked up in the past year, growing much faster than the monthly year-on-year average of 0.5 percent since the jobs market recovered in October 2010. Even still, as the chart illustrates, nothing that spectacular.

Real Wages_NFPs

Trouble In the Farm Belt

We noted in our recent post, Nonfarm Payrolls & Employment Data Diverging, the employment data, gathered by a different survey, which includes the farm sector, self employed, the informal labor market, and doesn’t double count jobs, is weakening in 2019.

 

Employment_3

 

It is not certain the if divergence is noise or reflects a significant weakening in other sectors not picked up in the payrolls survey and hitting the economy much harder than the market believes. We encourage you to read the post.

Unemployment Rate (UR)

In the same post, we went deeper into the unemployment rate that hit a 50-year low in April. We found that the employment-population ratio was only 60.6 percent compared to the April 2000 high of 64.7 percent when the UR was at 3.8 percent.

We tried to explain the differential through demographics but still found that the percentage of the employed working-age population is lower than it was before the last recession. Our conclusion was the UR is distorted by the vagaries of measuring and participation in the labor force, and unemployment itself.

Working Age Population Not In The Labor Force

We also discovered the working-age population (16-64 years) not in the labor force remains higher than it was before the recession, making it impossible to get a true comparative measure of unemployment across time. We suspect the UR would be several basis points (bps) higher if this measure was accounted for. To say the “unemployment rate is at a 50-year low” needs some qualification and normalization, to say the least.

WA POP_NILF

Moreover, the number of employed seniors (65 years >) has grown by over 70 percent before the recession started with almost 20 percent of the cohort group now employed compared to just around 10 percent in the 1990s. Some of which is due to the pure demographics of an aging population but much of which is we suspect is probably the result of a lack of adequate retirement savings by many baby boomers, which is not exactly a sign of strength, in our opinion. It also likely distorts the unemployment rate as a comparative economic indicator over time.

Upshot

If you have been following the GMM for any length of time, you know we love being a contrarian voice. taking on and challenging the conventional wisdom of the markets. We only touched on a few of the headline indicators and if we had time would go deeper into debt, capital spending and many of the other macro indicators. You don’t pay us enough, however.

Nevertheless, if and when the dark thunderstorm clouds arrive, you can’t say you were not warned.

Go deeper and sharpen your pencils, folks.

Stay tuned.

 



TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: boycotts; economy; incometaxes; sanctions; tariffs; taxcutsandjobsact; taxreform; tcja; trade
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To: SeekAndFind

The numbers have been fudged for decades. Trump is using the same methods as Barry and shows just how much better things are now.


21 posted on 05/14/2019 2:08:58 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: arthurus

Did you make that up? That’s pretty good and accurate.


22 posted on 05/14/2019 2:08:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

You will be wrong again,like you prognosticators always are.


23 posted on 05/14/2019 2:14:31 PM PDT by spincaster (ust)
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To: central_va

Yes, Gunny Hartman.


24 posted on 05/14/2019 2:14:40 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Economics: The science of explaining tomorrow why the predictions you made yesterday didn’t come true today.


25 posted on 05/14/2019 2:15:41 PM PDT by dartuser
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To: SeekAndFind

Making BOTH sides abide for the rules=GREED.

GREEDYGREEDYGREEDYGREEDY ORANGEMANBADBADBAD!!


26 posted on 05/14/2019 2:16:24 PM PDT by Flintlock ("FIRST the Saturday people, THEN the Sunday people"--gee whatever do they mean by that?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The MSM business is trash talking down the economy because they can’t stand a nationalist President. They are proving that they are truly Free Traitors™.


27 posted on 05/14/2019 2:16:57 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did you read this before posting?

It’s Incredibly biased against Trump not on economic theory but on a personal level, which makes it worth sh.t

Nobody should waste their time.

There’s REAL financial sites out there.

Or look at your paycheck


28 posted on 05/14/2019 2:25:03 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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To: SeekAndFind

China can pound sand.


29 posted on 05/14/2019 2:26:44 PM PDT by The Duke (President Trump = America's Last, Best Chance)
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To: marktwain
As I wrote elsewhere, America comprises about 4% of the global population. And yet, for all of her (real and imagined) problems, punches well above her weight in terms of economic output.

Furthermore, US equity markets comprise about 40% of the global capitalization. Indeed, many of her states' economies rival those of other nations:

It's also worth noting that the US' citizenry - again, about 4% of the world's total - holds 40%+ of the total firearms globally.

I'll take my chances with Trump.

30 posted on 05/14/2019 2:26:45 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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To: SeekAndFind

The sun is shining and they say it is raining!


31 posted on 05/14/2019 2:26:47 PM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

Plum skeery.

We’d better kowtow to China tout suite.


32 posted on 05/14/2019 2:31:19 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: dangus

Try buying a house in the DFW area


33 posted on 05/14/2019 2:33:26 PM PDT by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Breaking!!! Government shut down will cripple the economy!
Uh.., yeah, sure. Anything you say.


34 posted on 05/14/2019 2:34:20 PM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: dp0622

Yes, what you said. For example, from the “article”:

“Moreover, the number of employed seniors (65 years >) has grown by over 70 percent before the recession started with almost 20 percent of the cohort group now employed compared to just around 10 percent in the 1990s. Some of which is due to the pure demographics of an aging population but much of which is we suspect is probably the result of a lack of adequate retirement savings by many baby boomers, which is not exactly a sign of strength, in our opinion.”

Clearly this is an opinion, and may be that seniors are employed more now, due to an uptick in pay rates and/or decrease in income taxes, makes it more attractive to work beyond age 65. Maybe or maybe not, but no less of an explanation than offered in the article. And it could be that, many baby boomers were NOT able to save enough for retirement, especially the last 8 years, due to low wages, higher taxes, and prohibitively expensive mandatory health insurance.


35 posted on 05/14/2019 2:38:00 PM PDT by NEMDF
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To: NEMDF

Global Macro Monitor | Monitoring the Global Economy
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There is no “Art of the Deal” - see his waffling on immigration - and no method to the administration ‘s madness to negotiating anything, for that matter, but only driven by impulse and myopia. — Global Macro Monitor, June 24, 2018


36 posted on 05/14/2019 2:51:30 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I often hear about the Chinese always taking the long view. Is that why they, at various times in their history, closed themselves off off the outside world, thereby falling a century behind in technology? Why they sacked their best and brightest during the cultural revolution? Why they adopted a one child policy that is leading them toward disastrous demographics? Built ghost cities that will never be occupied?

How will those decisions work out long term?


37 posted on 05/14/2019 2:55:53 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: All

Rush had a section of his show today on the US economy and GDP versus China economy and GDP...

It was very informative and showed the US far ahead of China....


38 posted on 05/14/2019 3:11:14 PM PDT by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: 1Old Pro; SeekAndFind

Those who believe China can withstand the US ostracizing them are doomed to finally learn a lesson they won’t forget for a long time.

Only one factor will matter to the end result here: whether Trump wins or loses in 2020.


39 posted on 05/14/2019 3:16:45 PM PDT by AFPhys ((Liberalism is what Smart looks like to Stupid people - ® - Mia of KC. Rush - 1:50-8/21/15))
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To: SeekAndFind

These clowns ever get one right? Or are they of the Jim Grant type - correct once every 15 years?


40 posted on 05/14/2019 3:18:26 PM PDT by LRoggy (Peter's Son's Business)
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