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Navy: No release of UFO information to the general public expected
WaPo ^ | Paul Sonne

Posted on 05/02/2019 4:32:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

The U.S. Navy has drafted a procedure to investigate and catalogue reports of unidentified flying objects coming in from its pilots. But the service doesn’t expect to make the information public, citing privileged and classified reporting that is typically included in such files.

Joe Gradisher, a spokesman for the office of the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Information Warfare, said in a statement that the Navy expects to keep the information it gathers private for a number of reasons.

“Military aviation safety organizations always retain reporting of hazards to aviation as privileged information in order to preserve the free and honest prioritization and discussion of safety among aircrew,” Gradisher said. “Furthermore, any report generated as a result of these investigations will, by necessity, include classified information on military operations.”

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Even though the Navy indicated it has no plans in the imminent future to release the data, unclassified portions of the information or broad overviews of the findings could come out, according to Luis Elizondo, an intelligence officer who ran AATIP before leaving the Pentagon.

“If it remains strictly within classified channels, then the ‘right person’ may not actually get the information. The right person doesn’t necessarily mean a military leader. It can be a lawmaker. It can be a whole host of different individuals,” Elizondo said.

For example, in the future, the Navy theoretically could release broad statistics about the number of sightings and the results of the follow-up investigations without disclosing any classified information. Even if the information isn’t made available to the public, it could be reported to Congress.

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TOPICS: Astronomy; Military/Veterans; Science; Society; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; aliens; astronomy; aviation; extraterrestrials; fringe; harryreid; iteam; joegradisher; luiselizondo; navy; ohsomysteriouso; science; ufo; ufos; usn; usnavy
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1 posted on 05/02/2019 4:32:00 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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2 posted on 05/02/2019 4:35:12 AM PDT by Doogle (( USAF.68-73....8th TFW Ubon Thailand....never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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A long, long time ago a retired USAF officer who had a lot of flying hours told me ‘There are phenomenon we do not understand.’ I think that is the best rendering on UFO’s and many other events sensible, credible people report. This drives the scientific community literally crazy as it upends many of their basic assumptions about the universe,matter, and the functioning of systems. That fuels the rage many scientists react to these reports.
3 posted on 05/02/2019 4:37:00 AM PDT by robowombat (Orthodox)
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To: RoosterRedux
Despite what the Navy is saying, it will be made public.

Reasons:


4 posted on 05/02/2019 4:37:11 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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5 posted on 05/02/2019 4:38:44 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Appparently the Saudi Navy is releasing their data.

Alahwahoo Whackbar!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q70MrmN8DkU


6 posted on 05/02/2019 4:41:38 AM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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7 posted on 05/02/2019 4:42:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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This stuff has completely escaped the scrutiny of the scientific community because it has been labeled "off limits" by the military...whether there is any "there, there" from a scientific perspective or not.

I would gather that is about to change.

Furthermore, I would think this would now give the commercial airline industry (and air traffic control) an opening to keep records of such sightings so they may be forwarded to the Navy (or other authority) for consolidation with official military reports.

I have spoken with pilots through the years (military and commercial) and most of them have seen unidentified things of interest. There are probably plenty of Freeper pilots and family members of such who have stories to tell.

8 posted on 05/02/2019 4:49:02 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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‘The problem is that we have a problem. The problem isn’t that we don’t know we have a problem. We’ve know it for years. The problem isn’t that we don’t know the solutions. We’ve known those for years. The problem is that we just haven’t done anything about it’ -Frank Jackson

Actually that quote really doesn’t fit here, because we really aren’t necessarily suffering from ineptitude, ignorance, and corruption in this case. I don’t think they actually know solutions.

They say recently that they are trying to take the stigma away from offering reports, but they now say that they are not releasing anything. So the problem we have is a one way street. Who wants to participate in that?


9 posted on 05/02/2019 4:57:31 AM PDT by z3n
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To: RoosterRedux
The U.S. Navy has drafted a procedure to investigate and catalogue reports of unidentified flying objects coming in from its pilots.

The Air Force did that a while ago.


10 posted on 05/02/2019 4:57:51 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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I’m a little hung up on the idea that back in, let’s say, the 1950s, people with little Kodaks often snapped pictures of mysterious things in the sky.

Today? With smartphones in everyone’s pocket? With absolutely anything and everything in the world being captured on video? I don’t see much in the way of UFO footage. I wonder why?


11 posted on 05/02/2019 4:57:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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"We are just here to get a little target practice. Don't mind us."

12 posted on 05/02/2019 5:04:15 AM PDT by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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The Navy has photographic evidence but the fact that civilians don't is strange.

For civilians, it seems that what is being seen with the eye is not visible to a camera (i.e., it is either imagined, hallucinated, or just not material/solid, etc.). It is possible that what is being seen with the eye doesn't want to be photographed and has the capacity/ability to prevent it.

13 posted on 05/02/2019 5:37:12 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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Despite what the Navy is saying, it will be made public.


Something maybe made public, but not necessarily the data actually collected, and not before it is really old.

Its the Black World, and what happens there stays there.


14 posted on 05/02/2019 5:39:38 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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And anyway, they’re all weather balloons.


15 posted on 05/02/2019 5:43:48 AM PDT by Savage Beast (The Mueller Report: Donald Trump is the most uncorrupted President in US history!)
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Right. It is the outer periphery of evidence that will makes it way to the public.

That said, I'm not sure how much of this new program is black. If the Navy wants to study this phenomenon, it will most likely incorporate the commercial aviation industry and air traffic control into their program and it is hard to classify that information.

16 posted on 05/02/2019 5:47:10 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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If UFOs represented a genuine threat to national security, and release of this information would create panic throughout the country, the Democrats would have leaked this information by now.


17 posted on 05/02/2019 5:54:05 AM PDT by GreenHornet
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Hahah. Quite true. Which is probably why very little has ever been shared with Congress...til now.

That said, it was Sen Harry Reid who was the prime mover/benefactor of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program at the Pentagon.

18 posted on 05/02/2019 6:01:54 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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‘dems would have leaked it by now’
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lol great point.
Then again, as rooster says, you’ve got your whole ‘plausible deniability’ thing to steal a phrase from Independence Day, and the fact that even if you wanted to know, you probably couldn’t. Who is congress even going to subpoena? They’re too busy setting up carnival political inquisitions.

There are two reasons it wouldn’t have leaked by now, barring the obvious answer that there is nothing to leak. Either it’s too extreme and too damaging to release, or in our own best interests to keep it secret.


19 posted on 05/02/2019 6:08:46 AM PDT by z3n
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Ksenia Solo...…..yum!


20 posted on 05/02/2019 6:33:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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