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Denisovans, A Mysterious Form Of Ancient Humans, Are Traced to Tibet
NPR ^ | May 1, 2019 | Christopher Joyce

Posted on 05/01/2019 2:17:52 PM PDT by Innovative

The jawbone of a little-known form of ancient human has been discovered in western China. Scientists say these people lived as long as 150,000 years ago, and they were part of a group called Denisovans.

The Denisovans are a mystery. Up until now, their only remains — a few bone fragments and teeth — came from a cave called Denisova in Siberia.

In 2010, scientists concluded from those fragments and their DNA that Denisovans were slightly different from us — Homo sapiens — and slightly different from Neanderthals, but that they lived contemporaneously. In short, they were a third kind of human.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; anthropology; asia; centralasia; denisovans; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; morphology; tibet
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1 posted on 05/01/2019 2:17:52 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting article

GGG ping.


2 posted on 05/01/2019 2:18:37 PM PDT by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Neat stuff.


3 posted on 05/01/2019 2:27:13 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Innovative

So that’s where the Abominable Snowman tales come from!................


4 posted on 05/01/2019 2:30:11 PM PDT by Red Badger (We are headed for a Civil War. It won't be nice like the last one....................)
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I read a couple days ago that DNA analysis has indicated that there were three distinct populations of Denesovians. The Pacific Islanders are one, East Asians are two and Siberians and American Indians are the third.

All Denesovians but from different populations.

The Pacific Islanders are the oldest, East Asians next then Siberians and American Indians last at about 15,000 years.(Yup, they're saying Denesovians may have been around as recent as 15k years ago)

5 posted on 05/01/2019 2:30:39 PM PDT by blam
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To: Innovative

Did Ivan T. Sanderson know about this?


6 posted on 05/01/2019 2:33:58 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Innovative

Interesting photo from NATGEO showing where we all fit in, if someone can post it:

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2015/11/151116-denisovan-human-anthropology-ancient-dna/#/denisovan-family-tree-990x700.jpg


7 posted on 05/01/2019 2:34:43 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin ("And she and Billie Jeff was throwing somethin' off the Tallahatchie Bridge...")
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To: Red Badger
"So that’s where the Abominable Snowman tales come from!................"

Why do you feel compelled to degrade a serious subject with juvenile humor?

8 posted on 05/01/2019 2:48:32 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Buffalo Head

IBTGB
In before the god botherers.


9 posted on 05/01/2019 2:53:03 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: Innovative

There were three branches: Shem, Ham, Japheth. Someone has finally found the last one of them. < /s >


10 posted on 05/01/2019 2:55:05 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: blam

23andMe tells people how much Neanderthal ancestry they have. How soon will they be able to measure Denisovan ancestry? (That is assuming that “anatomically modern” Homo sapiens and Denisovans got together and made babies.)


11 posted on 05/01/2019 2:56:59 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: imardmd1
Japheth is the same as the Greek Iapetos (one of the Titans). One of Japheth's sons (Genesis 10.2) is Javan which means the Greeks (Ionians).

One of the moons of Saturn is named Iapetus.

In the Septuagint, "Japheth" is spelled Iota-alpha-phi-epsilon-theta and "Javan" is spelled Iota-omega-upsilon-alpha-nu.

12 posted on 05/01/2019 3:09:12 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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"23andMe tells people how much Neanderthal ancestry they have. How soon will they be able to measure Denisovan ancestry?"

It's being done now. Pacific Islanders have the highest percentage of Denisovian DNA today.

They recently found a skeleton 'fragment' that indicated that person had a Neanderthal mother and a Densiovian father.

Startling Discovery: Ancient Mixed-Race Girl Had Neanderthal And Denisovan Parents

"[The sample was from] a hybrid daughter of a Neanderthal mother and a Denisovan father. She was nicknamed Denny. “If you had asked me beforehand, I would have said we will never find this, it is like finding a needle in a haystack,” Pääbo told Nature."

13 posted on 05/01/2019 3:21:36 PM PDT by blam
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To: Innovative

Fascinating article; Thanks for the post


14 posted on 05/01/2019 3:46:03 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Innovative; Red Badger
Thanks Innovative, and Red Badger for the related link in FReepmail.

15 posted on 05/01/2019 8:33:09 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Verginius Rufus
I used Ancestry dot com for my DNA, and they weren't doing that for customers in 2017 -- but they had a link to an archaic DNA project, and my Neandertal DNA was accompanied by Denisovan DNA, which really, really surprised me.

16 posted on 05/01/2019 8:36:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

Got it. Thanks!


17 posted on 05/01/2019 10:12:56 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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18 posted on 05/01/2019 10:58:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Meet Denny, the ancient mixed-heritage mystery girl

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One suggestion is that the cave represents a border outpost for both species, one that was situated at the very eastern edge of the range of the Neanderthals, who were primarily a European species, and at the very western tip of the homelands of the Denisovans, who were an eastern species. Occasionally members from both groups would have reached the cave at the same time – with amorous consequences.

It is an idea borne out by detailed studies of Denny’s Neanderthal mother. Her genes show a particularly close affinity with Neanderthals who lived in Croatia, suggesting that the immediate predecessors of Denny’s mother may have been part of a group who slowly migrated east from Europe towards Denisova – where she encountered Denny’s father at the outer edges of each other’s homelands.

19 posted on 05/02/2019 4:34:37 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (AOC: The brain of a tea bisquit)
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To: COBOL2Java

Sometimes it’s not Mr. Right, it’s just Mr. Rightnow...


20 posted on 05/02/2019 5:09:19 AM PDT by null and void (The press is always lying. When they aren't actively lying, they are actively concealing the truth.)
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