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Posted on 04/10/2019 10:11:03 AM PDT by romanesq
During the 2018 Midterms in the United States, strange signs started appearing at political rallies. Held up by non-descript attendees, the signs read simply, “We are Q.” For those Trekkers out there, you might be confused: no, these rallygoers were not making an oblique reference to the infamous Star Trek: The Next Generation character portrayed by John de Lancie. The group appeared from the fringes of internet chat rooms, such as on the website of 4Chan, a peculiar mixture of cyberpunks and various online misfits.
“Q” is derived from an anonymous poster on the internet forum, a source claiming to have a top secret clearance with the U.S. intelligence community. This person (or group of people) spun an intricate conspiracy theory that many Far Right activists on gonzo internet forums picked up and began disseminating to wider audiences online and in their communities.
The conspiracy goes like this: the real purpose of the Robert Mueller special counsel investigation was not to investigate Donald Trump, but instead to investigate Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and people like former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman, John Podesta. The QAnon conspiracy theory is far-reaching, with new pieces added with regularity, in the form of what Q supporters refer to as “breadcrumbs.” One such addition to the conspiracy theory last year was that the Mueller probe was also looking into the now-deceased Senator John McCain (R-AZ) for his illegal activities.
What is the ultimate end of the QAnon conspiracy; what does Mueller hope to achieve, according to them?
That part, like most conspiracy theories, is conveniently not knowable. The Mueller investigation, having ended in a whimper rather than the bang the Trump-hating Fake News was hoping for, should have been the end of the QAnon conspiracy theory. QAnon conspiracy theorists have simultaneously argued that the ultimate target of the Mueller investigation is either the “Deep State” of nefarious anti-American, globalist actors, or the aim is to pursue high-profile pedophiles in the United States government and in other powerful circles related to the government.
QAnon’s Pernicious Connections to “Pizzagate”
Now for the most pernicious aspect of the QAnon conspiracy theory. In 2016, conspiracists on 4Chan and other similar fringe messaging boards claimed that the emails stolen from Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s (and subsequently made public by WikiLeaks) contained secret messages referring to a powerful ring of pedophiles who were using a local Washington, D.C. pizzeria as a base of operations to conduct their crimes. None of these claims were true. But, what ended up happening was that the highly irresponsible conspiracy theory triggered a mentally unstable man, who in turn took a gun to a D.C. pizzeria with intent to use it.
The source material for these theories is the vile, uber-fringe 4Chan and 8Chan. 4Chan was launched in 2003 as a place to share images and discuss Japanese anime. In fact, it was modeled on the Japanese anime internet boards, such as Futaba Channel. Over time, though, the already eclectic group of online personalities that 4Chan attracted devolved into something darker. It became a haven for crazed conspiracy theorists from both sides of the political divide. 4Chan also became popular among the white nationalist community, and also became a place for hackers and other criminals–including child pornographers. If there was a Hell on the internet, 4Chan was Hell.
Meanwhile, a similar website, created by gonzo software developer, Frederick Brennan, 8Chan was launched in 2013 as a response to what Brennan believed was the rise in authoritarianism, censorship, and surveillance on 4Chan. Despite the fact that 8Chan has become the 3,857th most viewed website in the world, with an average of 35,000 unique visitors per day and 400,000 original posts per day, it too has become mired in controversy. 8Chan, which has been billed as the more libertarian (though, perhaps libertine would be better) 4Chan, has apparently become a hub of international child pornography postings. This became such a problem that, in 2015, 8Chan was blacklisted by Google search. It is a profound understatement to claim that anything positive or good comes from these boards. Yet, it is precisely from sites like these that the “Pizzagate” and now the QAnon conspiracy theories emanate.
Alternative media figures, such as Mike Cernovich, have also furthered the “Pizzagate” and QAnon conspiracy theories. Some of these individuals have massive social media followings. With big internet names furthering the conspiracies, it was only a matter of time before disaster struck. In 2016, when the pizzeria shooting happened, several media outlets attempted to lay the blame at the feet of people like Cernovich. This only gave the Fake News Industrial Complex more fuel in their ongoing war against President Trump and the Right.
The very same group of internet Alt-Right activists and online forums that furthered the “Pizzagate” conspiracy have also spread the QAnon conspiracy theory.
Here are some of the other bizarre, totally inaccurate predictions that QAnon has made:
01/21/18 – A flood was alleged to be coming. A flood consisting of various forms of media that I imagine were supposed to implicate somebody in something nefarious. Sadly, this flood never came.
01/21/18 – Q makes some very certain claims about the Nunes Memo, which of course do not come remotely true when the memo is released a couple weeks later.
01/22/18 – Q posts a confirmed fake Podesta email, then promptly deletes it. But not before his followers have time to notice. 02/09/18 – Next week [Next week] was declared ‘suicide weekend‘. Nothing came to pass.
02/21/18 – Q predicts that the founder of Twitter is removing accounts because he and his Deep State friends are in deep trouble. Nothing came to pass.
03/15/18 – Q declares ‘March Madness’ and that ‘the public will soon know’. Nothing came to pass.
04/02/18 – April was supposed to be a “BIG month“, full of happenings including but not limited to arrests, the release of the IG report, the wall, “military start”, and unsealed indictments. Nothing came to pass.
Where Does QAnon Go From Here?
Things have gotten even stranger for the QAnon conspiracists now that Special Counsel Robert Mueller has submitted his final report. While the report has not yet been made public, Attorney General William Barr has seen it, and he has issued a summary of the report.
AG Barr explains that Mueller has not proven any collusion or coordination between President Donald Trump, his top 2016 campaign staffers, and Russian intelligence. The focus of the investigation was Donald Trump and his 2016 presidential campaign. Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Podesta, or even John McCain were not targets of the Mueller probe in any way as Q promised.
The fact that the QAnon conspiracy theory is tied in with the “Pizzagate” fiasco is bad enough. The more damaging part is that these cult-like actors link themselves to the Trump movement, despite the fact that no member of the Trump movement has anything to do with these insane theories. They are the outgrowth of a pathetic group who exist online, in the dark corners of the worldwide web. That they have attached their delusions to the Trump movement is unfortunate.
But, they do not represent and are not affiliated with President Trump, his supporters, or those who work for the president.
Recently, some Q supporters have insisted that certain pictures of President Trump and key advisers in the White House “prove” that they are, in fact, members of the Q conspiracy because their positioning makes it appear as though they are displaying subliminal messages about Q. These internet personalities claim to be supporting the President. Yet, consistently, their actions have shown that they are not allies of the President. They damage and besmirch the Trump movement with their irresponsible actions.
In that their actions, both directly and indirectly, aid those who would do damage to the Make America Great Again Agenda and see it fail. Whoever Q or QAnon may be, they are most decidedly not close to the President, they are not Conservatives, and with every post they make, they subvert the MAGA Agenda.
You’re such an expert Why don’t you show us the drop where it says that Mueller is working with Trump?
I won’t hold my breath cause it doesn’t exist
Where did you get the idea that he was?
Oh that's right. From the bajillion media articles attempting to "debunk" Q. Guess what. If you had gone straight to the source, you would know the lie that you now believe is a lie.
Maybe that's too much work. Better to just take the media's word for it, right?
Sheesh, you people.
Q has left the question open on Muller. White hat? Black Hat? Grey hat? I personally think the guy is dirty no matter what else.
One of the things that some people have a hard time understanding is that Q is not their to pacify us. Sometimes Q is actually trying to mislead the bad guys. Sometimes “Disinformation” is necessary. After a while then one starts to get a sense of what may fall in that category.
One of the greatest Trump is with Q proofs came about a year ago in the white house “Easter egg Roll” speech by Trump. You can search for it on google. Someone on Q’s forum was asking Trump to say “Tip Top” right before the SOTU address. There was no time to do that so Trump did it in the Easter speech.
Dude, me too.
Let's build a fort.
Oh baloney bagster. There’s been so many predictions that were proven WRONG, most of us lost count a LONG time ago.
“Trust Sessions” if you like but “the House is not safe.”
Dr. Gorka lists by numbers just a bunch of additional lies gone wrong. Remember when they tried to say Dr. Gorka was Q? Instead, he’s come back and blasted it as FAKE.
People have been so taken they think a direct advisor working for President in the White House is wrong and these anonymous QAnon grifters (who aren’t so anonymous btw) are the ones we should trust no matter how wrong they are).
I’m still a bit open as to whether that letter of the alphabet is legit, a Deep State psyop or some sort of LARP.
But this piece by Gorka (or his flunky assistant) is embarrassingly bad.
Personally I think we should take a moment to thank the shills and trolls
They don’t understand the Streisand effect
And actually help the movement grow.
I see new people everyday on the other thread and here I see the same five trolls
And their same stupid memes
So sad
I’m not going back to that preying insect / Pamphlet Anon cesspool. I’ve read plenty and know there’s plenty fake.
Hey, Magacoaltion.com welcomes any and all people to go on and debate Q. I encourage you to do so. So far, not a single taker.
So go for it FRiend. We’ll wait.
Your particular MAGA site has a vested interest in spoiler profits.
Some of the most popular decoders of Q speak dropped MAGA whimp some time ago. MAGAwhimp has been on temper tantrum ever since.
It’s a great site and a good fit, though, for those who prefer stenography and don’t like activism, tests, research, or problem solving challenges.
Get after it, on MAGAwhimp.org, or whatever it was. It’s funny there, and, it’s lonely.
Well, according to you, Gorka, the MSM and leftists everywhere, Q is a nut case right wing conspiracy that should totally embarrass Trump and all his “true” supporters. If that’s the case WHY HASN’T ANYONE IN THE MSM QUESTIONED TRUMP ABOUT IT? The press would love the opportunity to embarrass Trump. So why haven’t they? When you can answer that, I’ll consider this tripe you posted. Until then, nope.
It’s obvious that those here that live to criticize Q had absolutely no idea what it’s about. It’s also obvious by comments that they haven’t ever been to the 8ch or have an understanding of free, uncontrolled speech, something FR should look into. I’d welcome free speech being allowed on a conservative site instead of this PC crap that now exists.
lol
Magacoalition.com is a tiny pro-Trump PAC but they have invited all those Q promoters and NONE of them will debate the QAnon hoax.
Not. A. One.
So you can’t find it?
I’m challenging you right now and you can’t even answer a simple question.
Oh, I've already decided. I chose the red pill.
There’s no money to speak of and what you’re promoting is a dead end.
No? a 60k contribution from the MAGA Coalition to The Threat Knowledge Group isn't money?
Whatever you say, boss. Say, if Gorka is such a MAGA head, how come he got fired? Riddle me THAT.
You seem pretty sure of yourself.
“It’s also obvious by comments that they haven’t ever been to the 8ch”
Your assumption and those repeated by others is simply wrong. I’ve read plenty of it.
In fact when I saw the reference to the attempted terrorist bombing on the NYC Port Authority and the QAnon people claiming to know about it in advance is when I knew it was crap.
If they were real, they wouldn’t allow a terrorist to show up and explode a bomb at the NYC Port Authority.
Do you want to go into the foaming over the imaginary thousands of indictments by Santa and his elves waiting to be executed taking all these thousands of people to GITMO?
Really?
I do not. Worst researcher ever, I thought you knew.
I leave that to the smart people. It's just funny that these people will grasp at any straw when attempting to debunk Q, without questioning the motives of their "source".
I would use the word "moron" but that would be wude.
And yet you still can’t find where it says Mueller is working with Trump
Fascinating
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