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Something Is Not Quite Right In the Universe, Ultraprecise New Measurement Reveals
Space.com ^ | February 9, 2019 | Mara Johnson-Groh, Live Science Contributor

Posted on 02/09/2019 9:49:05 AM PST by ETL

Something isn't quite right in the universe. At least based on everything physicists know so far. Stars, galaxies, black holes and all the other celestial objects are hurtling away from each other ever faster over time.

Past measurements in our local neighborhood of the universe find that the universe is exploding outward faster than it was in the beginning. That shouldn't be the case, based on scientists' best descriptor of the universe.

If their measurements of a value known as the Hubble Constant are correct, it means that the current model is missing crucial new physics, such as unaccounted-for fundamental particles, or something strange going on with the mysterious substance known as dark energy.[5 Elusive Particles Beyond the Higgs | Quantum Physics]

Now, in a new study, published Jan. 22 in the journal Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomical Society, scientists have measured the Hubble Constant in an entirely new way, confirming that, indeed, the universe is expanding faster now than it was in its early days.

To explain how the universe went from a tiny, hot, dense speck of soupy plasma to the vast expanse we see today, scientists have proposed what's known as the Lambda Cold Dark Matter (LCDM) model. The model puts constraints on the properties of dark matter, a kind of matter that exerts gravitational pull but emits no light, and dark energy, which seems to oppose gravity. LCDM can successfully reproduce the structure of galaxies and the cosmic microwave background — the universe's first light — as well as the amount of hydrogen and helium in the universe. But it can't explain why the universe is expanding faster now than it did early on. [Big Bang to Civilization: 10 Amazing Origin Events]

That means that either the LCDM model is wrong or the measurements of expansion rate are.

The new method aims to finally settle the expansion-rate debate,Simon Birrer, a researcher at the University of California, Los Angeles, and lead author on the new study, told Live Science.So far, the new, independent measurements confirm the discrepancy, suggesting new physics may be needed.

To nail down Hubble's Constant, scientists had previously used several different methods. Some used supernovas in the local universe (the nearby part of the universe), and others have relied on Cepheids, or types of stars that pulsate and regularly flicker in brightness. Still others have studied the cosmic background radiation.

The new research used a technique that involves light from quasars — extremely bright galaxies powered by massive black holes — in an effort to break the tie.

"No matter how careful an experiment is, there can always be some effect that is built into the kinds of tools that they're using to make that measurement. So when a group comes along like this and uses a completely different set of tools… and gets the same answer, then you can pretty quickly conclude that that answer is not a result of some serious effect in the techniques," said Adam Riess, a Nobel laureate and researcher at the Space Telescope Science Institute and at Johns Hopkins University. "I think that our confidence is growing that there's something really interesting going on," Riess, who was not involved in the study, told Live Science.

Here's how the technique worked: When light from a quasar passes an intervening galaxy, gravity from the galaxy causes that light to "gravitationally bend" before hitting Earth. The galaxy acted like a lens to distort the quasar's light into multiple copies — most commonly two or four depending on the alignment of the quasars in relation to the galaxy. Each of those copies traveled a slightly different path around the galaxy.

Quasars don't usually shine steadily like many stars. On account of material falling into their central black holes, they change in brightness on scales of hours to millions of years. Thus, when a quasar's image is lensed into multiple copies with unequal light paths, any change in the brightness of the quasar will result in a subtle flickering between the copies, as light from certain copies takes a touch longer to reach Earth.

From this discrepancy, scientists could precisely determine how far we are from both the quasar and the intermediary galaxy. To calculate the Hubble Constant, astronomers then compared that distance to the object's redshift, or the shift in wavelengths of light toward the red end of the spectrum (which shows how much the object's light has stretched as the universe expands).

Studying light from systems that create four images, or copies, of a quasar has been done in the past. But, in the new paper, Birrer and his collaborators successfully demonstrated that it is possible to measure the Hubble Constant from systems that create just a double image of the quasar. This dramatically increases the number of systems that can be studied, which ultimately will allow the Hubble Constant to be measured more precisely.

"Images of quasars that appear four times are very rare — there are maybe only 50 to 100 across the whole sky, and not all are bright enough to be measured," Birrer told Live Science. "Doubly- lensed systems, however, are more frequent by about a factor of five."

The new results from a doubly-lensed system, combined with three other previously measured quadruple-lensed systems, put the value for the Hubble Constant at 72.5 kilometers per second per megaparsec; that's in agreement with other local universe measurements, but still around 8 percent higher than measurements from the distant universe (the older, or early, universe). As the new technique is applied to more systems, researchers will be able to home in on the exact difference between distant (or early) universe and local (more recent) universe measurements.

"The key is to go from a point where we're saying, yeah, these things don't agree, to having a very precise measure of the level to which they don't agree, because ultimately that will be the clue that allows theory to say what is going on," Riess told Live Science.

Accurately measuring the Hubble Constant helps scientists understand more than just how fast the universe is flying apart. The value is imperative in determining the age of the universe and the physical size of distant galaxies. It also gives astronomers clues as to the amount of dark matter, and dark energy, out there.

As for explaining what possibly exotic physics might explain their mismatch in expansion-rate measurements, that's way down the line.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; haltonarp; hubblesconstant; quantumphysics; quasars; science; steadystate; stringtheory; universe
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To: ETL

Just as I expected, but no one would listen...


61 posted on 02/09/2019 1:06:56 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: ETL
If the massive objects that comprise the astronomical universe are accelerating, that means energy is being input into them, since an object can't accelerate without the force being applied.

What is that force? Where does it come from? Is that the mysterious "dark energy" we keep hearing about?

62 posted on 02/09/2019 1:11:50 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Big Red Badger

“Cows have Toenails???”

Um.... I guess they’re made out of keratin ... I mean we used to have to trim horses hooves and that’s kind of like a toenail, one big one... or maybe it’s a space cow.
Yeah that’s it - a Big Space Cow toenail!


63 posted on 02/09/2019 1:13:02 PM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: ETL

Is Everything We Know About the Universe Wrong?”.

Very likely, yes.


64 posted on 02/09/2019 1:19:24 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Clutch Martin
... or maybe it’s a space cow.


65 posted on 02/09/2019 1:20:09 PM PST by BlueLancer (Orchides Forum Trahite - Cordes Et Mentes Veniant)
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To: ETL

“Is Everything We Know About the Universe Wrong?”

A quick search turns up over six articles with the same exact title all on different sites.

This seems to be the best one with the video (59 min) and a story line:
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/is-everything-we-know-about-the-universe-wrong/


66 posted on 02/09/2019 1:25:39 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: All

Cosmologists all agree that the Big Bang theory has major flaws. In fact, as is, it cannot work. This is the reason that Inflation theory was invented - to “correct” the problems with the B.B.

However, I.T. itself is riddled with problems, and disliked by many in the field......

More on this tomorrow. Gotta run.


67 posted on 02/09/2019 1:32:04 PM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: neverevergiveup

Yes, and I should have been clearer.

Some fields of science the human race has somewhat “tamed”. If America can put a man on the moon and the Japanese can put a sun sail spaceship on an asteroid and return a rock to Earth, then the inter-planetary travel problem of physics is pretty solid.

And I assume human psychology is a science that is steadily getting there, but it’s still quite in the wilderness, as I think Jordan Peterson would admit.

But sciences like climatatology, archeology, and astronomy are quite different because the number of variables required to accurately predict is so huge and.or the reliability/accuracy of instruments and measurements may not be adequate to predict at the granularity we want.

Trust in science is based on a proven ability to predict things. Climate science hasn’t yet earned that trust. In fact, it may never in our lifetimes because of the butterfly effect. When it flaps its wings, it may start a chain of events that leads to a tropical storm forming.

OK, I’ve enjoyed ranting on this : - ) I kick a out of writing stuff that helps me straighten out my own muddled brain. And other FReepers get to critique and make sure I don’t stray too far from the unreasonable or sane.


68 posted on 02/09/2019 1:45:52 PM PST by poconopundit
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To: poconopundit
I agree with you entirely that some scientific fields are more grounded in experimental data and validation than others. Climatology is based on a lot of supposition. The accuracy of ice core data cannot be directly tested, unless one can go back in time. The accuracy of future predictions will only be tested when the future predicted arrives. So far, the climatology predictions have not proven very accurate. I also agree that there are a huge number of variables involved as climate determinants, many we probably don't even know about - let alone understand. As such, no computer model that currently exists is likely to be very accurate.
69 posted on 02/09/2019 1:57:50 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Rinnwald

Re #50 Funny....


70 posted on 02/09/2019 2:09:03 PM PST by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: IronJack

If the massive objects that comprise the astronomical universe are accelerating,


Who said they were?


71 posted on 02/09/2019 2:20:06 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: ETL

Are fundamental particles proliferating like political genders?


72 posted on 02/09/2019 2:27:06 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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To: ETL

The increase in expansion acceleration isn’t due to “dark energy” which doesn’t actually exist, but rather is from the expansion of SpaceTime.


73 posted on 02/09/2019 2:31:04 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: Southack

What drives the expansion?


74 posted on 02/09/2019 2:54:27 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: LouieFisk

Thank you Louie, I may just do that. You are right about it being more powerful because Jastrow was an unbeliever. Chilling words he spoke when he said he would not find out (on creation) “in this life” ...


75 posted on 02/09/2019 3:07:17 PM PST by georgiegirl (Count me Deplorable)
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To: GRRRRR

“Well, if we ARE expanding at an increasing rate, then maybe all the jillion’s of suns that are converting matter into energy are pushing on the accelerator?”—by GRRRRR

Randell Mills had published a theory early 90’s which competed with the quantum theories, pertaining to physics. Based on Mill’s theoretical take of the universe, he predicted an accelerated expansion of the universe before publication of astronomical observations which contradicted Hubble’s constant rate of expansion. Mass-to-energy conversion was shown in his equations as the driving mechanism directly connected to an acceleration factor of expansion.


76 posted on 02/09/2019 4:47:50 PM PST by Ozark Tom
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To: ETL

As for explaining what possibly exotic physics might explain their mismatch in expansion-rate measurements, that’s way down the line.


Finally, some science...…………….


77 posted on 02/09/2019 4:53:59 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: sparklite2

The first sentence of the article.


78 posted on 02/09/2019 8:05:19 PM PST by IronJack
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To: Ozark Tom
Dang! I knew it!! 🤪🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸
79 posted on 02/09/2019 8:09:33 PM PST by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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To: IronJack

The objects are not accelerating because energy is being directed at them. The space they sit in is expanding. Relative to its nearby surroundings an object isn’t moving any more than usually does. Galaxies can be bound to each other by gravity in their local group. The objects are passengers riding on space, which is expanding. I hope this makes sense.


80 posted on 02/09/2019 9:00:01 PM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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