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Cesar Sayoc: Questions and what comes next?
Vanity | 10/26/18 | yesthatjallen

Posted on 10/26/2018 8:50:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

It's late and it's been a long day.

When I first heard about the mail bombs I wanted to believe it was a Democrat agent provocateur but the more I thought about it I came to believe it would he a Trump supporter.

But I have questions.

If Cesar Sayoc is a Trump true believer, why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The conclusion I come to is he has emotional/psychological issues, a low IQ, or a mix of both.

Anyone with average intelligence, who wasn't crazy, and who supported Trump, would not have done this because they would know this would hurt Trump and Republicans in the midterms.

So why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The only other reasons I can come up with are he's an innocent pasty who was set up or he's a crisis actor playing his part in a very elaborate 'Deep State' hoax.

Regardless, what comes next?

How do Republicans and Trump get past this? What is our next move? How do we answer people who will use Cesar Sayoc against us?

What questions, theories, and observations do you have about what transpired today?

(Apologies for the vanity. I hope I expressed my ideas clearly enough to have a discussion).


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To: yesthatjallen

I bet this guy has never been to a tea party rally.


101 posted on 10/27/2018 3:01:43 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Ann Archy
Isn’t the MSM constantly looking for former Trump voters to turn on him?

Here he is.

102 posted on 10/27/2018 3:10:24 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Keyhopper
No he could not live in a van in Aventura .
He would have been towed and fined there .
Its NY Retiree Condo canyon territory
No where to hide .
My questions are .
Where did the suspect make theses hoax bombs with the larry the cable guy Isis stickers .

So a supposed Trump supporter sent fake bombs to Cnn and others to help Trump two weeks before the election ?
We ate supposed to believe this left wing media
narrative ?

And he was not on the run after all this ?
He wanted to get caught .
Wonder why ?

103 posted on 10/27/2018 3:14:05 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves)
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The van is repainted.
The windows are not “stickered”, it looks like that cling film applied to city buses for advertisements, and which doesn’t impair visibility.


104 posted on 10/27/2018 3:36:36 AM PDT by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: ncalburt

They said he lived with his mom in Aventura. He could’ve made them in his van, maybe. Really bad place to assemble anything. I mean, come on, this whole story stinks.


105 posted on 10/27/2018 3:42:20 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: yesthatjallen

It’s funny we connect and rejoice James Hodgkinson’s heinous act to Bernie Sanders and being a democrat,yet seem desperate to disassociate this guy from Trump and Republican politics. These guys are two peas in a pod motivated likely by the same or similar reasons for what they did.


106 posted on 10/27/2018 3:56:23 AM PDT by joesbucks
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To: yesthatjallen

It is the Independent voters that will be the key to the Nov. election.

With this situation I believe that there will be many Independents rethinking voting for Republicans, exactly what the Dems hoped for.

This guy couldn’t have been more perfect for the Dems right now then if they had planned the whole thing.

I believe that this story might have just cost the Repubs the House by just a few seats.


107 posted on 10/27/2018 4:24:47 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: plain talk
There are wackos on the left and right. Just because someone roots for the right team doesn’t mean they are necessarily OK.

And if it was a lefty (and I’m still not convinced he’s not) it would have been buried, or, if devices were mailed to Trunp’s family, or other prominent Rs, the media STILL would have blamed it on Trump. It just comes with the territory and most see it for what it is.

108 posted on 10/27/2018 4:31:09 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: CapnJack

10 days out with as much early voting that has already happened? Not likely. And Indies are not going to base their vote on a local (House) candidate based on this story. The media will make what they will out of it, but once the “rest of the story”, just like Kavanaugh, etc., trickles out, it will be apparent for what it is.


109 posted on 10/27/2018 4:34:39 AM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man, a subject.")
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To: yesthatjallen

I have several questions....but, the prime ones need to answered immediately by DOJ/FBI/LEO authorities...with just the facts.

If this unbalanced Looney-Tune dude, who was supposed to be down on cash and thought to be living in his van as a homeless creature, where did he get the money and means to manufacture and assembled all of the explosive devices, he sent out, and, where did he the cash and means to have an expensive “custom” van doctored with custom made decals, installed by a professional decorator. And...where did he get all the mailing addresses & correct locations of his would be victims...and why did all those victims, surface instantly, all ranting with the same story line. And...why were his chosen victims so calm, carefree and cool, unruffled, when they were almost murdered. This all seems strange. I hope we get some real facts from the DOJ/FBI/LEOs investigating this case.

IMHO, there is much more to this gig then we, the public, the American people are being told!!! Looks like a “Democrat, Left-Wing Setup & Financed gig” to me!!!


110 posted on 10/27/2018 4:42:19 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (Defeat both the Republican (e) & Democrat (e) political parties....Forever!!!)
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To: Drew68

Look again. Paaa door dented. Reported he lived in it.


111 posted on 10/27/2018 5:14:32 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: NFHale

NR has an article this morning saying -

>> van covered with memes from “fringe” websites - it’s been said before but needs to be said again, conservatives need to tone it down - social posts were fringe memes and rants <<

Meanwhile, the EU just banned memes - big tech is taking down “fringe” websites and social accounts and we have leftists, RINOs and neverTrumpers telling us to sit down and shut up. Some conservatives are going to sit down and shut up reflexively because they don’t want to be associated with a crazy right wing “fringe” serial bomber.

It’s all so damn convenient.

It’s hard to not have thoughts of conspiracy these days. After all, we just learned that the MSM, intelligence agencies, big tech and the DNC/dems have been secretly working together to prevent Trump’s election and then oust him once he got elected. And it doesn’t seem to be fixed. There’s still a special council even though it’s been proven that it never should have been appointed. We still have leaks to the MSM that can only come from the FBI and Trump admin. Hell, CNN of all people were the ones who broke this story. How is it that CNN, the lowest rated cable news channel is the first to know?

It’s all so damn convenient.


112 posted on 10/27/2018 5:49:50 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: Snickering Hound

No offense, but, REALLY??

I agree that the right can have a real nut or two somewhere,
but EVERYTHING about this is as phony as obama.

The ‘bombs’, the mailer-uncancelled under postaged,(there is NO WAY those ever went thru the postal system) CNN taking PICTURES of a so-called bomb to propagandize that day, the van and perfect sticker job - untouched by the Florida sun.. Supposedly homeless, yet still has resources to get all those addresses, make the stickers, make the phony bombs, knowing hes going to prison for the rest of his life...

Youre at least NOT gonna use a real bomb to get rid of the folks you supposedly hate?

I bet if somebody REALLY looks into this guy they’ll find the law had something on him and gave him a chance to do this shenanigan with a fake promise of leniency before long instead of getting put away for whatever they have on him for real. Just a thought...

But the whole thing is way fake.


113 posted on 10/27/2018 6:18:52 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Keyhopper

It does stink .
Aventura police woulld have been all over that van .
I used to visit there for work and the cops are very strict and a speed trap .


114 posted on 10/27/2018 6:48:39 AM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves)
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Partisan Media Shills LIE, because they are A) regurgitating DNC talking points, and B) they are LIARS.

115 posted on 10/27/2018 7:34:56 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: ncalburt

I used to work for N Miami beach water dept.
A friend of mine works for the city of Aventura.
You’re right that thing would be a cop magnet.


116 posted on 10/27/2018 7:51:42 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Keyhopper

Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian just like standing in the garage don’t make you a Cadillac.


are you trying to tell me what I can’t self identify as in my own garage!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?

;)


117 posted on 10/27/2018 8:59:36 AM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: cableguymn

Just a failed attempt at humor.
Teehee


118 posted on 10/27/2018 9:27:17 AM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: Drew68

Im juse saying it does not look like the average nuts case car of a bunch of accumulated stickers we’ve all seen those

this is a little bit more polished they’re obviously printed sheets

It does not need to be a conspiracy theory...

There a people on the fringe that float around left to right and back again

Hell we had freeper of the 90’s that went code pink antiwarleft after 911


119 posted on 10/27/2018 12:55:57 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Tophat9000)
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To: rodguy911

For me the first step is to check the source of this report — Shad Olson.

Seems to be a conservative firebrand. Seems reliable. Managed to survive the Facebook purge best I can tell — that takes some doing.

I’ll put some raw data up to ‘all’.


120 posted on 10/28/2018 12:56:44 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (News and poltiicians who ignore James O'Keefe are fake and evil.)
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