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Cesar Sayoc: Questions and what comes next?
Vanity | 10/26/18 | yesthatjallen

Posted on 10/26/2018 8:50:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

It's late and it's been a long day.

When I first heard about the mail bombs I wanted to believe it was a Democrat agent provocateur but the more I thought about it I came to believe it would he a Trump supporter.

But I have questions.

If Cesar Sayoc is a Trump true believer, why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The conclusion I come to is he has emotional/psychological issues, a low IQ, or a mix of both.

Anyone with average intelligence, who wasn't crazy, and who supported Trump, would not have done this because they would know this would hurt Trump and Republicans in the midterms.

So why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The only other reasons I can come up with are he's an innocent pasty who was set up or he's a crisis actor playing his part in a very elaborate 'Deep State' hoax.

Regardless, what comes next?

How do Republicans and Trump get past this? What is our next move? How do we answer people who will use Cesar Sayoc against us?

What questions, theories, and observations do you have about what transpired today?

(Apologies for the vanity. I hope I expressed my ideas clearly enough to have a discussion).


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To: yesthatjallen

Odd coincidence this Hebert guy ran into him.

“An Air Force veteran, Hebert worked as a contractor for the State Department doing diplomatic protection overseas for people such as former Vice President Joe Biden and Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.”
http://archive.is/ugL9P


61 posted on 10/26/2018 10:18:39 PM PDT by northside
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To: tophat9000
We are talking Florida by the way ...the sunshine state...

Yes, I live in Florida. It's Florida, not Venus. I see car decals and wraps all the time. Hell, I saw a McCain/Palin bumper sticker not long ago that still had color to it!

Printing technology has come a long ways. My wife has bumper stickers on her car that have been there since 2014. She parks outside and they look as new today as they did over four years ago.

62 posted on 10/26/2018 10:18:58 PM PDT by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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To: Henchster

and then the FBI plants the dna. yes


63 posted on 10/26/2018 10:19:19 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: yesthatjallen

Look, I treat this as a nut. If the guy was a democrat I would still think he is a nut. There is nothing to get past. Nothing to wring our hands about. He latched onto Trump to give himself meaning in his little pathetic life. Trump does not give my life meaning. Obama did not give my life meaning.

I have told this to tens of thousands of people that have stopped by my booth this year. I have had candidates that I have voted for win and loose. In the end I still have to wake up, put on my pants and carry on with my life because ultimately a President really doesn’t affect my life fo the most part. Yes, there are things we can all poin to, but really—a president or political party really doesn’t define me, or my life.

The dude is a nutter. Look at his van...Should have had pics of President Trump passing out candy to kids or something. He’s a nutter. Did I say, the buy is a nutter?

Alright...we got nuts on our side. Big whoop. There are nuts on the other side...everyone has nuts! Glad he didn’t hurt anyone and he’s in a place where he won’t do any more bad.

That doesn’t mean CNN isn’t fake news. It doesn’t validate them. There is no one to blame. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton and Mad Maxine are not to blame. Donald Trump, Ivanka Trump, and little Baron Trump are not to blame. Adolf Hilter is not to blame. The nutter is to blame. He put together the artwork. He put them in the envelopes and did whatever.

Is there a big conspiracy here? Is this nut actually some sort of false flag? Was he under cover these past two years to emerge as the MAGA Bomber! The guy was a nut.

If we need to worry about the future of the House and Senate because, well just because of some nut....then it was all on very shaky ground to begin with. I don’t think so. Just make certain to vote.

You know what most of the public thinks? Nothing. No real bombs. Lots of hyperventalating and they got the nut. No one was cowering in the corner. Some were wondering where their bomb was...I mean if you weren’t on the list, then you ain’t sh$$... If I was a democrat I would stomp my floppy foot and demand a bomb be sent to me too! I mean Elizabeth Warren didn’t even get one....well maybe 1/1024th of one perhaps. Kamala Harris didn’t get one. Did Cory Booker get one? I would hand my head in shame if I didn’t make the cut.

They guy was a nut.


64 posted on 10/26/2018 10:19:40 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: doorgunner69

That’s a quote from the post I responded to, gunner.

I was pointing out that even a single pro-Trump bumper sticker gets vehicles keyed; that van is plastered with pictures, and the windows aren’t shattered.


65 posted on 10/26/2018 10:22:55 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Drew68

was a bad prank and the unstable man behind it will go to prison.

This should now be old news.>>> unless the FBI antitrumpers planted the prints and dna. just sayin.


66 posted on 10/26/2018 10:23:42 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (spooks won on day 76)
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To: yesthatjallen

Seeczar Psyop


67 posted on 10/26/2018 10:26:29 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Henchster

The guy is a dead ringer for my house cleaner
Nicest guy ever
Glad he doesn’t watch news


68 posted on 10/26/2018 10:28:32 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: NFHale
p38

He lives in that van. If someone gets too close he roid rages.

And there are dings and dents on the van. And how do we know that he hasn't had to constantly replace stickers he was no longer happy with?

69 posted on 10/26/2018 10:28:55 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
Charles Guiteau, who assassinated Garfield in 1881, was a loon who believed his successor Chester Arthur would reward him for the deed.

I read that book. Great book!

Destiny of the Republic: A Tale of Madness, Medicine and the Murder of a President

Never knew before how awesome of a man President James Garfield was and what a loss to the country was his assassination.

70 posted on 10/26/2018 10:30:14 PM PDT by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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To: kvanbrunt2

My money is on him never appearing in court. And for good reason as far as the interests of the state and the custom fitting storied up media.


71 posted on 10/26/2018 10:33:28 PM PDT by blackdog
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To: Snickering Hound

“...asn’t had to constantly replace stickers...”

Windows, more likely.


72 posted on 10/26/2018 10:33:47 PM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: Drew68

They always say he would have been a great president when they get shot.

Just why would Reconstruction have been better if Lincoln said that the play sounds stupid and he’s staying home.

Or if Kennedy decided that Dallas is too damn hot for a convertible and get him a car with air conditioning that Vietnam wouldn’t have been as screwed up.


73 posted on 10/26/2018 10:35:23 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost; cableguymn
Chas...you need to read your own post which goes as follows:

And his van literally screams “I am a rightwing nutjob.” It is brand spanking new. How could a poor, bankrupt guy allegedly living in his mother’s basement or in the van itself afford such a vehicle? The pro-Trump stickers are not stickers at all, but professionally-created, poster-sized collages designed to perfectly fit in each one of the van’s windows. And all the van’s windows are covered in them except the front driver’s side window and the windshield.

your point you wrote emphasizes how could he afford the van.....then when cableguymn tells you it’s a cheap van...you reply incredulous as follows

You obviously haven’t read either article referenced and linked neither one mentions, discusses nor gives any importance to the “van”.

Your posts are inconsistent with one another ...it was you who made the point CGMN addressed as did yet another poster

74 posted on 10/26/2018 10:36:30 PM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......when the shooting starts it wonÂ’t matter what you were)
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To: Drew68

That sums it up pretty well. I actually never thought it was a super clever Democrat ploy although I did think it was a false flag. I just figured it was an excitable antifa kid or something. When it started looking like a RW nut this morning I wasn’t really surprised. It was just a different flavor of nut. I was expecting a lefty mainly because the timing is perfect for the left and bad for our side. But then this guy isn’t exactly a logical thinker, so that kind of goes out the window. The good news is he’s such an oddball that this episode will get filed as a fluke in most people’s minds and won’t affect things much. That and the fact that no one was hurt and the bombs were fakes. It will be forgotten by the election I think.


75 posted on 10/26/2018 10:41:52 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: yesthatjallen

The guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd


76 posted on 10/26/2018 10:42:45 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: LouieFisk

Going to church doesn’t make you a Christian just like standing in the garage don’t make you a Cadillac.


77 posted on 10/26/2018 10:46:10 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

About those window applycas on his van. They are expensive professionally made and applied.

So if he’s a broke, living with parents loner where did
the money come from?

There’s a lot of questions about this incident that need to be answered quickly and correctly.


78 posted on 10/26/2018 10:46:14 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Drew68

“My wife has bumper stickers on her car that have been there since 2014”

There is no way this guy parked and lived in this van in the middle of Broward, FL. That van would have been spray painted, keyed, windows blown out and destroyed in minutes and he would have been lucky to be alive. I lived in that area...it’s full of left wing nut jobs.


79 posted on 10/26/2018 10:52:43 PM PDT by MaxistheBest (...)
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To: MaxistheBest

Actually the guy lived in Aventura a small city in NE Miami Dade county.
It is 2 square miles and has 50 cops on their force. I can’t believe this guy wasn’t getting pulled over daily for the right front window being blocked.


80 posted on 10/26/2018 11:12:08 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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