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Cesar Sayoc: Questions and what comes next?
Vanity | 10/26/18 | yesthatjallen

Posted on 10/26/2018 8:50:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen

It's late and it's been a long day.

When I first heard about the mail bombs I wanted to believe it was a Democrat agent provocateur but the more I thought about it I came to believe it would he a Trump supporter.

But I have questions.

If Cesar Sayoc is a Trump true believer, why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The conclusion I come to is he has emotional/psychological issues, a low IQ, or a mix of both.

Anyone with average intelligence, who wasn't crazy, and who supported Trump, would not have done this because they would know this would hurt Trump and Republicans in the midterms.

So why did he do it and why did he do it now?

The only other reasons I can come up with are he's an innocent pasty who was set up or he's a crisis actor playing his part in a very elaborate 'Deep State' hoax.

Regardless, what comes next?

How do Republicans and Trump get past this? What is our next move? How do we answer people who will use Cesar Sayoc against us?

What questions, theories, and observations do you have about what transpired today?

(Apologies for the vanity. I hope I expressed my ideas clearly enough to have a discussion).


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1 posted on 10/26/2018 8:50:32 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

He was a juicer. Anabolic steroids rot the brain.


2 posted on 10/26/2018 8:52:21 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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This is the image the leftist media wants you see:

The hat, the van stickers, the "registered Republican" bit. It all seems a little too perfect.

But just because he has been to rallies and wears the gear, doesn't necessarily make him a true supporter.

In the movie "In the Line of Fire" this guy sent lots of money to the President in hopes of getting close for a kill shot:

And who can forget this real-life whack-job who in "Taxi Driver" pretended to support Senator Palantine:

I'm not saying for sure the guy put up a false front, just don't be surprised if and when this story takes a sharp LEFT turn.

3 posted on 10/26/2018 8:52:49 PM PDT by Henchster (Free Republic - the BEST site on the web!)
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To: yesthatjallen

My suggestion is forget it.


4 posted on 10/26/2018 8:54:22 PM PDT by Brilliant
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After what we’ve seen from the Democrats and NeverTrumpers the last three years since Donald Trump announced for the presidency I look at everything now with a huge amount of skepticism. Something is real fishy about Mr. Sayoc. I’ll wait for the crack researchers on our side of the aisle to expose who this man really is. He’s a felon with a long, long rap sheet who shouldn’t of been able to register to vote at all in 2016. Call me a cynic, but this guy’s real story has yet to be told truthfully.


5 posted on 10/26/2018 8:57:53 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: yesthatjallen

Some snarky bastard is going to buy big purple dildos, strap cheap Micky Mouse watches on them, and then mail them the sad, old whores on The View.


6 posted on 10/26/2018 9:00:07 PM PDT by WMarshal (America First)
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To: yesthatjallen

Everything that’s come out about this guy thus far says lefty.

With that said, I do know a couple that are die hard Trumpsters that believe in free handouts, abortion, homosexuality and do not believe in marriage. And many, many very good Americans that live clean conservative lifestyles and do not have traditional rat values vote rat.


7 posted on 10/26/2018 9:01:41 PM PDT by redfreedom
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“But just because he has been to rallies and wears the gear, doesn’t necessarily make him a true supporter.”

Yup. Think “Arthur Bremer”.


8 posted on 10/26/2018 9:01:41 PM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: yesthatjallen

He definitely isn’t very smart. How could a supposed Trump supporter have just provided an October surprise against his own party?


9 posted on 10/26/2018 9:03:07 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: yesthatjallen

Even as a registered Republican, he was a felon, right?

So how could he even vote?


10 posted on 10/26/2018 9:03:55 PM PDT by struggle
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Excerpts from good analyzations of Sayoc, with links at bottom

Elsewhere on the internet, just seconds after Cesar Altieri Sayoc’s apprehension, his public listing identified him as a Democrat. (Below) Moments later, the listing was updated by someone, changing his listing from Democrat, to “Republican.” While it’s been noted that MyLife is a publicly edited page, I captured his Democrat party affiliation within seconds of the announcement of his apprehension and then watched in amazement as his party affiliation changed from Democrat to Republican before my very eyes, capturing screenshots as quickly as I could to document the changes. (Photos)

Photos and in-depth analysis of Maga Bomber at link: http://www.shadolsonshow.com/2018/10/26/cesar-sayoc-maga-bomber-facebook-betrays-democrat-trump-infiltrator-anti-gop-posts/?fbclid=IwAR2LrhhWYerHs8RdiTutPX_2W3g84jmz5JOKwjte7WdrbqfD-W4lWdM5QSM

It was a foregone conclusion early on that whoever did this would be caught. He left just too much evidence. And his van literally screams “I am a rightwing nutjob.” It is brand spanking new. How could a poor, bankrupt guy allegedly living in his mother’s basement or in the van itself afford such a vehicle? The pro-Trump stickers are not stickers at all, but professionally-created, poster-sized collages designed to perfectly fit in each one of the van’s windows. And all the van’s windows are covered in them except the front driver’s side window and the windshield.

The reaction from Democrats was another tell. They were ready the minute the story hit – some even before it hit. John Brennan predicted that more bombs were coming because he hadn’t gotten one. The next day he did. When CNN received its bomb, instead of running for cover and calling authorities, they took photos of it. Alexander Soros was even able to get an OpEd printed in the New York Times the same day the Clinton/Obama bombs were found. How did he manage that without prior knowledge?

Link: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2018/10/red-alert-meet-laughably-fraudulent.html#more


11 posted on 10/26/2018 9:04:51 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: struggle

he couldn’t.. He should have been bumped from the rolls..

FL does NOT give voting rights back without the person making the request..

(ironically, changing that is on their ballot this year, so if you are in FL, you know what to do)


12 posted on 10/26/2018 9:07:27 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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He was photographed wearing a MAGA cap. Absent other FACTS then it does appear he was a Trump supporter. But who knows if that matters much for a messed up crazy person.

The bombs did not go off and he got caught with FINGERPRINTS. This is someone who had been fingerprinted by the police. He wasn’t smart enough to use gloves ... or maybe he was just a nutjob that got caught.

There are wackos on the left and right. Just because someone roots for the right team doesn’t mean they are necessarily OK.


13 posted on 10/26/2018 9:08:05 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: yesthatjallen

Say, “He should have gotten advice from Bill Ayers on how to make a working bomb.”


14 posted on 10/26/2018 9:08:36 PM PDT by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

Only one thing..

That is a dodge van. Dodge discontinued that body in the very early 2000s after a run all the way from the mid 70s (with minor modernizations along the way)..

so on a good day, with low miles, that’s a 4-5K van.


15 posted on 10/26/2018 9:09:41 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: cableguymn

You obviously haven’t read either article referenced and linked neither one mentions, discusses nor gives any importance to the “van”.


16 posted on 10/26/2018 9:14:25 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: CharlesMartelsGhost

The van is not new. May be pre-2004 according to some researchers.


17 posted on 10/26/2018 9:14:52 PM PDT by Trump_the_Evil_Left (FReeper formerly known as Enchante (registered Sept. 5, 2001), back from the wild....)
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To: yesthatjallen

What comes next?

Cesar goes to federal prison for the rest of his life.


18 posted on 10/26/2018 9:18:43 PM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Brilliant
My suggestion is forget it.

I would have to reluctantly agree with that suggestion.

Leftists have always ignored criminal behavior of their own marginal followers and pressed on with their campaigns. They do that because it works. We should do the same.

I doubt very much that Cesar Sayoc really is a Trump supporter. That does not change the basic response that is needed. Republicans and others condemn his actions. The guy has been arrested, will be tried "as soon as possible", will be convicted, and will to jail for a long time.

Next topic please.

And by the way, this is over in less than two weeks now. These "October Surprise" things have a very limited shelf life and not nearly as much impact as they once did.

19 posted on 10/26/2018 9:19:53 PM PDT by flamberge (It seemed like a good idea at the time)
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Regardless, what comes next?

Nothing.

Unlike real ricin and real bullets that Democrat assailants use, these bombs were fake. Nobody was ever in any danger. Nobody got hurt. It was a bad prank and the unstable man behind it will go to prison.

This should now be old news.

20 posted on 10/26/2018 9:19:57 PM PDT by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 https://twitter.com/TheRealDrew68)
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