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Meat-heavy low-carb diets can 'shorten lifespan': study
Daily Mail ^ | August 16, 2018 | AFP

Posted on 08/18/2018 11:03:44 AM PDT by fireman15

Middle-aged people who get roughly half their daily calories from carbohydrates live several years longer on average than those with meat-heavy low-carb diets, researchers reported Friday. The findings, published in The Lancet medical journal, challenge a trend in Europe and North America toward so-called Paleo diets that shun carbohydrates in favour of animal protein and fat. Proponents of these "Stone Age" diets argue that the rapid shift 10,000 years ago -- with the advent of agriculture -- to grains, dairy and legumes has not allowed the human body enough time to adapt to these high-carb foods. For the study, receiving less than 40 percent of total energy intake from carbohydrates qualified as a low-carb regimen, though many such diets reduce the share to 20 percent or less. At the other extreme, a 70 percent or higher share of carbohydrates -- such as pasta, rice, cakes, sugary drinks -- can also reduce longevity, but by far less, the scientists found. "Low-carb diets that replace carbohydrates with protein or fat are gaining widespread popularity as a health and weight loss strategy," said lead author Sara Seidelmann, a researcher at Brigham and Women's Hospital in Boston. "However, our data suggests that animal-based low carbohydrate diets might be associated with shorter overall lifespan and should be discouraged." Replacing meat with plant-based fats (such as avocados and nuts) and proteins (such as soy products and lentils) reduces the risk of mortality, Seidelmann and her team found. The optimal balance of food groups for longevity remains hotly debated. Many studies have concluded that eating carbohydrates in moderation -- 45 to 55 percent of total calorie intake -- is best, but others report improved short-term, cardio-metabolic health with high-protein, high-fat diets.

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TOPICS: Education; Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: atkins; carbs; diet; longevity; lowcarbdiet; meat; protein; replaceallmeat; saraseidelmann; soy; soyispoison; vegan; veganpropaganda; vegetarians; vegetariansonfr
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To: CJ Wolf

“Depends on the amount of beer you drink. It you stay under 8 beers a day yes. Cheese is also allowed eggs, bacon, steak and moose.”

:) under 8 beers? Outstanding, maybe I will start the diet tonight with a nice rib eye.


101 posted on 08/18/2018 12:40:42 PM PDT by cazmandeuce
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To: Yaelle

Romaine isnt bad...it’s like candy to me..


102 posted on 08/18/2018 12:45:16 PM PDT by goodnesswins (White Privilege EQUALS Self Control & working 50-80 hrs/wk for 40 years!)
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To: JayGalt

Thank you. The idea of a skin cream for a Vitamin deficiency would make sense for someone whose diet is working for weight management.


103 posted on 08/18/2018 12:45:37 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: TheStickman

What’s a medical professorial? Is that anything like a doctor? And out of curiosity, do you recommend smoking more cigarettes as a cure for lung cancer?


104 posted on 08/18/2018 12:46:42 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: TheStickman

I was in pain. A medical professional told me I had broken bone in my foot. Went to a specialist he said it wasn’t broken but an extra bone. Told me it would need surgery. Had it scheduled and then the pain went away. Couple months later in a different spot the pain came back. Went to another doctor who said I had gout. Which I did. Just saying not all drs. Are right. I now drink a liter of high alkaline water every two days. Seems to keep it away.


105 posted on 08/18/2018 12:47:30 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free wwg1wga! Woe is media...)
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To: Yardstick
Naturally lettuce is worthless...

That was my thought. I have Tabouli, canned spinach, or boiled cabbage instead. If I'm in a situation where there are going to be salad greens, I go for the darker ones.

106 posted on 08/18/2018 12:48:32 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Would you believe I had tabouli, carrots, broccoli, onions and carrots, and she insisted on her lettuce? If she ever asks for suggestions, I'll have some good ones that have a "second opinion".

I don't know if she'll ever get it right. She's just so reluctant to revise a diet that stabilizes her weight.

107 posted on 08/18/2018 12:52:03 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: goodnesswins

Yeah....I’m real careful about beef fat unless it’s grass fed.


108 posted on 08/18/2018 12:53:52 PM PDT by grania (President Trump, stop believing the Masters of War!)
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To: cazmandeuce

Good luck. The best time to lose weight is sleeping. Weigh your self at night be for bedtime and again in morning. How many pounds did you lose? Then, eat like you normally do and check again at night. Compare to the day before. If you are higher then the day before eat less or have one less beer. If you are lower then see what sleep does again to lose weight. It takes a while of pattern recognition. But you can lose big time weight by understanding your body.


109 posted on 08/18/2018 12:54:09 PM PDT by CJ Wolf (Free wwg1wga! Woe is media...)
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To: Yaelle
The more vivid my dreams, the more I know I am eating right.
110 posted on 08/18/2018 12:57:47 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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To: CJ Wolf

haha. You crack me up.

Thanks for the laughs today :)

Great last point, though, about understanding your body!


111 posted on 08/18/2018 12:59:38 PM PDT by cazmandeuce
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To: SoCal Pubbie

LOL!!!

You sure are entertaining.

Bye now :)


112 posted on 08/18/2018 1:00:40 PM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: Yaelle

Well, I’m thinking there’s a distinction between soluble and insoluble fiber. Insoluble fiber is cellulose and passes through our digestive tract undigested. It adds mass but not energy. Soluble fiber is digested by the gut biome and is used as energy by the friendly bacteria. Those friendly bacteria are sort of the heroes of nutrition and don’t get the credit they deserve, at least for now, it would seem. But nutrition science seems to be pointing in the direction of appreciating those friendly little guys.


113 posted on 08/18/2018 1:01:28 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: CJ Wolf

Sorry you had that experience.

Doctor’s “practice” medicine. Some doctors need more practice than others I’ve learned.

Glad you have a working solution.


114 posted on 08/18/2018 1:02:04 PM PDT by TheStickman (#MAGA all day every day!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Actually, and yes there are articles and studies, they are realizing they may not know the age of skeletal remains because they only have modern markers to use as a judge. A healthy mostly meat-eating human might not show the same signs of aging at the same age as the modern carb/sugar consuming human.


115 posted on 08/18/2018 1:03:00 PM PDT by visualops (WooHoo Trump Train! Get on board or get out of the way!)
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To: HartleyMBaldwin

Same here (and I knew you were being a little facetious). If I tried the same diet over a summer as I did when I was sixteen (having ballooned in weight after being sidelined from high school football and wrestling with one knee hyper-extended and the other dislocated to one side like a busted chicken leg) I’d probably be lucky to lose fifteen pounds. Exercise moderation in all things but try to enjoy the ride. Having noticed how perpetually angry most health nuts and vegans seem, I think I’ll take any of their advice a file it under “Probable Trash”.


116 posted on 08/18/2018 1:03:31 PM PDT by katana (We're all part of a long episode of "The Terrific Mr. Trump")
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To: a fool in paradise

Much like the Deep State/Swamp (in fact, likely a lot of the same people), there are trillions of dollars at stake.


117 posted on 08/18/2018 1:04:07 PM PDT by visualops (WooHoo Trump Train! Get on board or get out of the way!)
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To: BipolarBob

Yep...when i stick with my primal diet (kinda slacking lately) i never take in more than 40 in a day and most days about 20

When i stick with it i feel great and can stay lean and solid easy


118 posted on 08/18/2018 1:05:52 PM PDT by Manuel OKelley
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To: HartleyMBaldwin
"Makes sense. What was the average life expectancy 10,000 years ago, when everyone ate a Paleo diet?:

I always laughed to myself when people bragged about the Caveman diet, or Paleo diet...

they were CAVEMEN!.....

and similarly people talk about how well our great grandparents ate....

in the early 1900's the average life span was about 46yrs old...

119 posted on 08/18/2018 1:06:24 PM PDT by cherry (official troll)
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To: TheStickman

I would say so.

I like to eat vegetables, but it’s not a main course.


120 posted on 08/18/2018 1:06:37 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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