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The mystery of crater rays may finally be coming to a close
Astronomy ^ | 2 Aug, 2018 | Michelle Hampson

Posted on 08/03/2018 8:33:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber

Fiery chunks of rock are constantly bombarding the planetary bodies of our solar system, leaving behind long-lasting scars. These gouges, in the form of craters, can be used to learn about the history of our little nook in the vast universe, prompting scientists to study their features feverishly. Yet one pattern commonly found around craters has remained a puzzle. Sometimes, these craters contain radial rays of debris fanned out around the impact zone. In the lab, scientists have tried to reproduce these patterns by dropping balls into containers of sand or beads, yet have found little success.

But in a recent study published June 27 in the journal Physical Review Letters, a team of scientists has finally made some progress in understanding how crater rays form, and their inspiration comes from an unexpected source: high school students.

Tapan Sabuwala of the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate University was scouring the internet for videos by other researchers, hoping to find someone who was producing crater rays in sandbox experiments. Although none of the experts were achieving such a pattern, Sabuwala chanced across a video where high school students were producing the elegant rays.

“I was very excited to see evidence that ray-like patterns are actually produced in experiments that, at least at first sight, look very similar to the ones that we had been conducting,” says Sabuwala. “And, of course, this fact made it equally confusing as to why the rays are produced in the students’ experiments but not in our experiments.”

(Excerpt) Read more at astronomy.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: astronomy; catastrophism; meteorite; science
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1 posted on 08/03/2018 8:33:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
Material ejects from the valleys in an uneven surface as the meteorite is striking the surface.
2 posted on 08/03/2018 8:35:24 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Now I can sleep at night.


3 posted on 08/03/2018 8:35:26 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MtnClimber
A big splash...and a shallow crater...


4 posted on 08/03/2018 8:39:07 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: MtnClimber; SunkenCiv

Ping!...............


5 posted on 08/03/2018 8:42:58 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: MtnClimber

Rats. I thought they finally found Judge Crater.


6 posted on 08/03/2018 8:45:03 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: BenLurkin

Glad to see HS students interested in real SCIENCE................


7 posted on 08/03/2018 8:45:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Red Badger

I’m mostly flabbergasted that the “real” scientists were not able to figure this out. Any kid who has spent a fair bit of time working with sand, water, and gravel at the beach should be able to figure this out, unless they have undergone extensive “training” so as to forget the lessons of childhood.


8 posted on 08/03/2018 9:08:20 AM PDT by Hieronymus ((It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: Hieronymus
I’m mostly flabbergasted that the “real” scientists were not able to figure this out.

My exact reaction to reading this article.

9 posted on 08/03/2018 9:14:18 AM PDT by JohnG45
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To: MtnClimber
It's hard for me to fathom the, for want of a better term, rank stupidity and incompetence of scientists failing to consider such a basic variable as the surface being impacted. But they're human just like everyone else--a reminder for the next time "scientists" and "experts" get too big for their britches.
10 posted on 08/03/2018 9:16:01 AM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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To: Hieronymus

The first step in learning is to admit you know nothing..............


11 posted on 08/03/2018 9:18:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world learns the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Hieronymus

My thoughts exactly. Scientist should stick to things they are better at manipulating like AGW.


12 posted on 08/03/2018 9:38:35 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Red Badger

Good for these kids. ‘Hope they get some of the journal publication credit.


13 posted on 08/03/2018 9:39:49 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: BenLurkin
Tycho. A ten mile wide crater. Whatever made it split into three large chunks. I was looking at the moon with my scope last night. But couldn't really see Tycho as it was a half moon. Mars was a treat though.
14 posted on 08/03/2018 10:56:42 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: BenLurkin

The moon is a hollow metal sphere. All large impacts only go to a uniform depth and are convex,


15 posted on 08/03/2018 12:24:53 PM PDT by Diplomat
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To: MtnClimber

Can I have $150,000.00 a year to drop balls into pans of beads or sand? I’d like one of those nifty labcoats and free pizza and soda too.


16 posted on 08/03/2018 2:43:44 PM PDT by Patriot777 ("When you see these things begin to happen, look up, for your redemption draweth nigh.")
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To: Red Badger; 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; ...
Thanks Red Badger. Gene Shoemaker used to use a firearm, "my favorite rifle" as he called it, because his entire class would be able to experiment with the creation of miniature crater creation, and note for themselves that the bullet wasn't left in the crater, it just disintegrated. The National Geographic "Asteroids, Deadly Impact" has a demonstration of this, with one of his former students.



17 posted on 08/03/2018 3:47:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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From the lunarorigin keyword, out of the FRchives:

18 posted on 08/03/2018 4:01:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: MtnClimber
*Dropping balls into a container of sand...

Up the speed which would still be marginal to a space object impact:

Fire a 150 gr 300 Win Mag into sandstone and study that.

Wear safety glasses.

19 posted on 08/03/2018 6:14:45 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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To: Deaf Smith

Right. And if you shoot steel plates you will see the rats on the steel too. You have to have enough velocity to get the splash effect.


20 posted on 08/03/2018 7:10:13 PM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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