Posted on 04/19/2018 5:59:45 PM PDT by LibWhacker
COLORADO SPRINGS Future private space stations may be sponsored by major corporations, which prompted a spirited discussion during a panel on the future of low Earth orbit at the 34th Space Symposium here.
I dont want the Taco Bell International Space Station, said Erin MacDonald, modeling and simulation engineer for Engilitys Space and Mission Systems Group. I think it goes against what the public perceives the space station is supposed to be like.
While the International Space Station is unlikely to be rebranded by Taco Bell or any other corporation, if a new commercial space station is paid for by Taco Bell, it will be the Taco Bell Space Station, said Benjamin Reed, deputy director for the NASA Goddard Space Flight Centers Satellite Servicing Projects Division.
The Trump Administration has proposed ending U.S. government funding for the International Space Station after 2024. Congress still needs to weigh in on that timeline and determine its role in future commercial space stations.
NASAs research suggests a private space station will not be able to operate without government funding, said Alexander MacDonald, senior economic advisor in the NASA Administrators office, which is why NASA is requesting funding in 2019 to begin supporting development of commercial space stations.
Plus, it is in NASAs interest to support the new outposts because the agency will need ongoing access to low Earth orbit when the Space Station retires, Reed said.
NASA is still going to need to test technologies in orbit before going all the way out to the Moon or Mars, Reed said. That new fuel pump we want to develop. Lets get it up there, prove it works and then send it to the Lunar Outpost and then to Mars.
Companies planning to build commercial space stations already are grappling with questions about how they will operate, including the role of government customers and corporate sponsorship.
Would NASA have a program in a Taco Bell Station? asked Blair Bigelow, Bigelow Space Operations LLC co-founder and vice president of corporate strategy. On a government-subsidized station, we are held to highest and best use. With a commercial space station, we wont be successful if we are held to the same kind of rules of engagement.
Bigelow Aerospace is on schedule to have two private space stations ready to launch in 2021, Bigelow said. Bigelow Space Operations will be responsible for sales, customer service and operation of those space stations, she added.
Erin MacDonald, who was in the audience for the panel discussion, said she raised the question of Taco Bell sponsorship because she was concerned about education and public outreach. Would a private space station require schools to pay? If so, that would prevent a lot of kids from getting access, she said.
Jeffrey Manber, NanoRacks chief executive, said he did not see corporate sponsorship as a problem. NanoRacks plans to refurbish a Centaur upper stage to turn it into a private orbital outpost it calls Independence-1.
If we are going to do a commercial space station, we have to succeed in the marketplace, he said. Im sure you and everyone you know takes part in things that are sponsored. We welcome that.
Robert Bigelow, Bigelow Aerospace founder, told SpaceNews after the panel discussion that a commercial space station, like any commercial business, will have to follow the money to succeed.
You follow the money and make sure what you are doing is safe and legal, he said. At the same time, he heard the concerns about student engagement and said space stations need to provide for education and perhaps conduct some philanthropic activities once they are established.
Ken Shields, director of operations for the Center for the Advancement of Science in Space, the organization that manages the U.S. national laboratory on the International Space Station, said the various commercial, educational and government demands could be satisfied by different space stations.
My vision long term is that we have a U.S. national laboratory that is not tied to NASA or tied to a space station, Shields said. There may be multiple assets in space, the Taco Bell Bigelow Space Station, the NanoRacks Federal Express Space Station and Ben & Alexs Space Station. I believe there needs to be a place where activities can occur that are not purely profit motivated or purely entertainment motivated. I think the national lab construct is a great place to do that. Its the place where NASA, other government agencies and academia will do their activities.
Taco Bell won the Franchise wars.
Beans in space makes one wonder
Would this create a gaseous nebula?
I actually forgot about that movie LOL. Probably one of the few movies with a very conservative slant.
Apparently Pizza Hut won!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gpRzusd9Yi8. Taco bell changed to pizza hut.
I dont want the Taco Bell International Space Station, said Erin MacDonald, modeling and simulation engineer for Engilitys Space and Mission Systems Group. I think it goes against what the public perceives the space station is supposed to be like.
There will not be one space station. There will be several. Unlike government funded enterprises, Erin MacDonald will not have to pay for any of them that he does not wish to.
do you have that scene where Spartan rescues the kid and the lib journalist lectures him that it wasn’t worth destroying property and killing criminals for a child etc?
I can think of a few reasons Taco Bell might not be the first choice when it oertains to space station cuisine.
When I was first in the .mil they were issuing then new MRE field rations (Meal, Ready-To-Eat) that replaced the Meal, Combat, Individual. Anyway certain menus (Beans, in Tomato Sauce) had “Not For InFlight/PreFlight Use” prominently displayed on the package. The “Bean Component” as it was it was appetizingly named, was always coupled with “Frankfurters, Beef” which were known more informally as “The Four Fingers of Death.” The meals were rounded out with crackers and peanut butter, or cheese spread, etc. Anyhoo, those meals would REALLY screw up your gut. I believe the cryptic admonition on the package was to prevent internal damage to the bowels due to rapid altitude changes.
Chick A Filet vs Target, the Star Wars movie that should have been
In case you haven’t heard this week’s news, Chick-fil-A is closing in on Taco Bell. By the time we have advertising on space craft, we’re more likely to see a Chick-fil-A ad than a Taco Bell one. “Eat Mor Chikin” and all that.
When I was first in the .mil they were issuing then new MRE field rations (Meal, Ready-To-Eat)
And all this time I thought it stood for Meals Rejected by Ethiopians
I dont want the Taco Bell International Space Station, said Erin MacDonald, modeling and simulation engineer for Engilitys Space and Mission Systems Group.
No one cares -- and she belongs on the unemployment line.
I brought a chihuahua home from the Taco Bell Space Station, and it turned out to be a Rat. Thanks LibWhacker.
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