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Existence of UFO's 'proved beyond reasonable doubt' as expert says earth 'could have been visited'
mirror.co.uk ^ | Rhian Lubin

Posted on 12/24/2017 10:27:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux

The existence of UFOs has "proved beyond reasonable doubt", a former Pentagon official has said.

Luis Elizondo, the former head of a secret US government programme, believes that Earth may well have been visited by alien life via the unidentified aircraft and that there is also proof.

He resigned from the US Department of Defence in October to protest against the excessive secrecy and opposition to the programme he was in charge of.

Speaking to the Sunday Telegraph , he said: "In my opinion, if this was a court of law, we have reached the point of 'beyond reasonable doubt'. I hate to use the term UFO but that's what were looking at.

"I think it's pretty clear this is not us, and it's not anyone else, so one has to ask the question where they're from."

Mr Elizondo could not comment whether or not his team had examined UFO sightings as it was still classified information.

But he told the newspaper there had been "lots" of sightings.

He ran the Advanced Threat Identification Program, funded with £16.5million, from his office in the Pentagon.

The team identified movements and trends that were not like anything else "in the world".

They also discovered "hotspots" during their investigation, which were often near nuclear facilities and power plants.

(Excerpt) Read more at mirror.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
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To: JockoManning; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; RoosterRedux; E. Pluribus Unum; Spok; onedoug; Cowboy Bob; ...

Feels like smoke and mirrors, not substantial, clear and convincing “evidence”.

In the meantime, Merry Christmas where we worship and praise our risen Savior, Christ who came in the flesh as a helpless babe and someday soon to gather us up and return with us as King of the World. The One who is VERY real and lives in the hearts of millions and maybe even billions.


161 posted on 12/25/2017 6:59:15 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Teef


162 posted on 12/25/2017 7:02:57 AM PST by bar sin·is·ter (Climate Scientology - another example of science fiction morphing into a religious cult)
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To: Jim 0216
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
163 posted on 12/25/2017 7:08:48 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Jim 0216
The Department of Defense thought it was convincing, which is why it is such a big deal.

This is the first time the government and actually disclosed this kind of information.

164 posted on 12/25/2017 7:12:39 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

The Department of Defense is going to have to offer more solid, clear, and convincing evidence than this. The government is not per se proof of anything except ofttimes, stupidity.


165 posted on 12/25/2017 7:20:39 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: JockoManning

Not to worry. If they look at me cross-eyed, they are the ones who will end up vivisected.


166 posted on 12/25/2017 7:39:10 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: JockoManning

Full disclosure is just around the corner......and has been for thirty years.


167 posted on 12/25/2017 8:27:29 AM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: RoosterRedux

>>That said, I find it scary as hell.

I’m not really talking about being scared of a falsehood.

I’m saying that if real proof can be provided (behold, the flying saucer and bodies—or non-human captives), then it tells us that everything we know of God is useless myth, and possibly that he doesn’t exist.

If they are humans and it turns out that there are other worlds that are also populated by more-developed humans, then you have to take another look at Mormon theology.

Proof of ET changes everything.


168 posted on 12/25/2017 8:28:05 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Distraction.


169 posted on 12/25/2017 8:29:02 AM PST by maggief
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To: Bryanw92
This is what I found scary. Dr John Macks (Harvard psychiatrist) work with abductees. He takes a very clinical approach. He concluded there is something there...and it's not just hysteria and not insanity.

If you ever get some time, read some of the reviews.

Abduction: Human Encounters with Aliens

170 posted on 12/25/2017 8:33:37 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

>>He concluded there is something there...and it’s not just hysteria and not insanity.

I remember the fake accusations in the 90s for various famous child abuse cases where the psychologists created the hysteria one patient at a time.

Psychologists also believe that transgenderism is not insanity. Once the gay psychologists convinced the APA that homosexuality is normal, they kind of went off the rails of credibility after that.


171 posted on 12/25/2017 8:38:03 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
Interesting POV.

Does the Creator of the Universe, and all that it comprises, not get a say as to who inhabits what?

Was the entire universe created, with it's billions of galaxies, each with trillions of stars, and only one small speck gets inhabitants?

Perhaps, everything we know about God, is not everything there is to know?

172 posted on 12/25/2017 8:47:11 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: going hot

>>Perhaps, everything we know about God, is not everything there is to know?

I would say that there is a lot we don’t know. But if he has created many worlds and each one is populated with different sentient beings in various stages of development, then we literally know nothing useful and our bible is just a fantasy developed by humans who thought they understood God (as the Humanists tell us it is). It certainly discredits the existence of Jesus as the God-man who came to save mankind and knocks him down itinerant rabbi/philosopher.

As I said, proof of ET changes everything. Real proof. Not conjecture or statistical probabilities. Actual hands-on proof.


173 posted on 12/25/2017 8:55:42 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: Bryanw92
NOT AT ALL!!!!!!!

NOT by a long shot. The Biblical Truths are the only truly truest Truths in all Creation.

The UFOs & fallen angel critters pretending to be ETs merely mean that satan and his crew of fallen angels--who have been working on the End Times GREAT DECEPTION for millennia are increasingly staging their final acts more and more overtly.

Besides, the Bibles is essentially silent about any other life on distant planets. There MAY be a slight hint in a couple of places.

But all we need to know about having a Relationship with Father Almighty God Yehovah, Scripture provides.

The rest is either of no significance to our Relationship with God Yehovah or none of our business.

Personally, we actually believe the earth is God's Prime Object Lesson site for all Creation. And, Given Christ dying here--it may well be the center of all Creation. But that's just our opinion and of no consequence.

The UFOs and critters are "merely" part of the End Times great testing ... ultimately proving God's Sovereignty as He trashes them totally at Armageddon.

We're just closer than ever before to that END GAME.

174 posted on 12/25/2017 9:13:13 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
We think your logic is greatly flawed.

Almighty God Yehovah is God above and outside ALL,/u> dimensions as well as He is God above and outside all else that is.

Scripture is clear enough on that score.

How do you think Christ disappeared and appeared--clearly not from the normal dimensions we perceive!

175 posted on 12/25/2017 9:16:10 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: RoosterRedux
That is the major reason Q has spent so much of his time and energy for 45+ years studying and writing, talking about such issues.

We do NOT want authentic Believers, for sure, but anyone, to be taken in by THE GREAT DECEPTION.

176 posted on 12/25/2017 9:17:51 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92
PLEASE get EXO-VATICANA by Tom Horn and Cris Putnam--authentic Christians.

Also great on the topic are L.A. Marzulli, Chuck Missler, Guy Malone et al.

177 posted on 12/25/2017 9:19:25 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Bryanw92

Proof of other civilizations not of this world does not negate the Bible, nor Jesus.


178 posted on 12/25/2017 9:19:40 AM PST by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And just because some things are not extraterrestrial does not mean that nothing is.

However, the evidence is that the critters are ExtraDIMENSIONAL ... from an evil spiritual dimension--like hell.

179 posted on 12/25/2017 9:22:37 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: Jim 0216
Sadly, at some point, there will be clear and convincing evidence ... satan even calling down fire from heaven and other deceiving wonders.

Nevertheless, AMEN about Yeshua our Loving Savior and soon coming King of Kings and Lord of Lords, before whom all that is will kneel & bow and confess Him as Lord of Lord and King of Kings--whether they have knees & tongues or not.

180 posted on 12/25/2017 9:25:15 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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