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Legalizing Marijuana is a Terrible Idea
Gloria Romanorum ^ | 11/5/17 | Florentius

Posted on 11/05/2017 3:15:14 PM PST by Antoninus

It seems that many states, my home state of New Jersey included, are hell-bent on legalizing recreational use of cannabis. The arguments in favor of this, though loud and dominant in the media, are not particularly convincing.

Most of the advocates tout the desire to legalize the drug so that the state can raise additional tax revenue off of the sales. Enhancing the ability of an over-bearing confiscatory high-tax state like New Jersey to extract even more revenue from its citizens is never going to be a compelling argument for me.

Slightly better is the argument that legalizing the drug will result in fewer individuals in prison for usage. While I agree that we have far too many individuals in jail for such petty crimes, full-scale legalization of recreational usage seems like an over-reaction to a problem which may be fixed by simply reducing the penalties involved.

But the absolute worst argument in favor of legalization is that cannabis is harmless or somehow beneficial to users. You will find these types of claims all over websites which market marijuana-related products, and they are absolutely false and extremely dangerous. If there are any mild benefits for a healthy person using cannabis, they are far outweighed by the negatives. Sadly, the proponents of marijuana usage will often laugh off any suggestion that using their drug of choice can do harm as a return to "Reefer Madness," a supposedly comical early 20th century belief that using cannabis can cause you to go crazy.

The sad facts are these: the more research that's done, the more science has realized that cannabis usage for healthy people is detrimental, both on a personal neuro-cognitive level, and on a societal level. It is particularly bad for youth as the impact of the active ingredient in cannabis--tetrahydrocannabinol or TCH--on the developing brain can be profound and long-lasting. Here is a list of articles detailing some of these findings. I would encourage anyone interested in this issue to at least skim over these studies:

Cannabis as a Neuro-Toxin:

Does Cannabis Cause Lasting Brain Damage? (2012)
"Recent studies using high-resolution imaging techniques, combined with more robust delineations of specific brain regions in very heavy cannabis users, have revealed evidence of dose-related alterations, mostly in the hippocampal and parahippocampal regions."

Is Cannabis Neurotoxic for the Healthy Brain? (2013)
"Our results suggest that in the healthy brain, chronic and long-term cannabis exposure may exert significant effects in brain areas enriched with cannabinoid receptors, such as the hippocampus, which could be related to a neurotoxic action."

Long-term Effects of Marijuana Use on the Brain (2014)
"Our findings of negative correlations between connectivity indexes and measures of marijuana use suggest a cumulative deleterious effect of marijuana on OFC (orbitofrontal cortex of the brain) connectivity."

Persistent Cannabis Users Show Neuropsychological Decline from Childhood to Midlife (2012)
"Persistent cannabis use was associated with neuropsychological decline broadly across domains of functioning, even after controlling for years of education. Informants also reported noticing more cognitive problems for persistent cannabis users."

Impact of Cannabis on Memory

Effects of Cannabis on Memory and Cognitive Function
"Cannabinoids appear to disrupt short-term memory by interfering with the filtering of information, such that a greater volume of information reaches consciousness, overwhelming the ability to store, or prioritise such information for storage in memory."

The Chronic Effects of of Cannabis on Memory in Humans: A Review (2008)
"Sufficient evidence has accumulated from recent studies of cannabis users in the unintoxicated state to conclude that long-term heavy cannabis use is associated with impaired memory function."

Study Shows Memory Loss Due to Cannabis Related Harm to Mitochondria (2016)
"Acute cannabinoid intoxication induces amnesia in humans and animals, and the activation of type-1 cannabinoid receptors present at brain mitochondria membranes (mtCB1) can directly alter mitochondrial energetic activity."

Even pro-cannabis sites admit that the substance impacts memory in a negative way...
9 Ways to Prevent Cannabis-induced Memory Loss

Impact of Cannabis on Executive Function
(Note: Executive function is the set of mental skills that govern time management, attention, planning and the ability to cope with multiple tasks at the same time.)

Cannabis Use Before age 15 and Subsequent Executive Functioning (2011)
"The results suggest that chronic cannabis users process complex information more slowly and performance worsens in cognitive overload tasks as lifetime consumption increases."

Executive Function Deficits in Short Term Abstinent Cannabis Users (2008)
"The cannabis users, compared to both control groups, had deficits on verbal fluency, visual recognition, delayed visual recall, and short- and long-interval prospective memory....These findings suggest that cannabis use leads to impaired executive function."

Cannabis and Cognition: Short- and Long Term Effects (2011)
"A range of cognitive functions, encompassing attentional, memory and executive and inhibitory processes, are impaired both during the acute intoxication period and following long-term use of cannabis."

Impact of Cannabis Usage on the Developing Brain

Cannabis and Neurodevelopment: Implications for Psychiatric Disorders (2006)
"The effect of cannabinoids in the adolescent suggest long-term deleterious outcomes in cognition, depressive symptoms, schizophrenia and substance use disorders."

Effects of Cannabis on the Adolescent Brain (2014)
"Teens who engage in heavy marijuana use often show disadvantages in neurocognitive performance, macrostructural and microstructural brain development, and alterations in brain functioning."

Cannabis and Adolescent Brain Development (2014)
"Accumulating evidence from both animal and human studies suggests that regular heavy use during this period is associated with more severe and persistent negative outcomes than use during adulthood, suggesting that the adolescent brain may be particularly vulnerable to the effects of cannabis exposure."

Adverse Effects of Cannabis on Adolescent Brain Development (2016)
"These data provide compelling longitudinal evidence suggesting that repeated exposure to cannabis during adolescence may have detrimental effects on brain resting functional connectivity, intelligence, and cognitive function."

Societal Impact of Cannabis Legalization

While the above articles are mostly from scholarly journals, here are some news stories on the impact of cannabis legalization is having on society, largely from mainstream media sources that are otherwise favorable toward legalization:

Vagrants Overrun Colorado Town. Residents Cite Legalized Marijuana as Reason. (2017)
Pot Fuels a Surge in Drugged Driving Deaths. (2014)
Traffic Fatalities Linked to Marijuana are Up Sharply in Colorado. (2017)
Legalized Pot Sends More Teens to the ER in Colorado. (2017)
Is Colorado's Homeless Surge Tied to Legalized Marijuana? (2017)
Colorado Drug Overdoses Up in Almost Every County and Ahead of National Average (2016)
Survey: Colorado Stands Out for Consuming Drugs, Alcohol (2016)
Marijuana-related Fatal Car Accidents Surge in Washington State after Legalization (2016)
Fatal Road Crashes Involving Marijuana Double after State Legalizes Drug (2016)
How Big is Colorado's Drug Problem? (2017)

The message here is that even if voters and state legislatures are stupid enough to legalize this substance, if you care about the health of your brain, you would do well to avoid smoking weed. Fears of "reefer madness" may be overblown, but the conventional wisdom regarding the degraded behavior and reduced prospects of "pot heads" is pretty much on the money.

And let's not forget the ulterior motives of politicians and businesses who are looking to reap the benefits of legalization. Do they really care about the health and safety of the people they supposedly serve? Or are they simply looking for a way to make society more docile, stupid and ultimately easier to rule, while raking in big money? On this question, history is instructive:

A Disgraceful Little War -- The Opium War and Commissioner Lin


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To: Ken H

I would like to see it be left up to the states.


81 posted on 11/05/2017 4:54:33 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Antoninus
its a done deal....

the sheeple have spoken and they wish to live their lives as slaves to drugs....

there's nothing we can do about it because well, the sheeple....

Karl Marx himself couldn't come up with a quicker way to dismantle the once hardy American spirit....

82 posted on 11/05/2017 4:58:22 PM PST by cherry
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To: Antoninus

You attracted a lot of dopers from outside the forum.

Nearly a third of all auto accidents and a high proportion of workplace accidents linked to MJ use. The drug effect on motor response endures in the brain for a very long time after the user thinks the high has ended. Also hard on the lungs. One reefer is equal to a pack of cigarettes.

On the bright side, no company would like to be sued the way Big Tobacco has been. Anyone dopey enough to try to market this crap for a product is going to find out quickly that product liability will kill their profits. Also, employers will quickly have to enforce drug testing wherever usage matters.


83 posted on 11/05/2017 4:58:55 PM PST by Missouri gal
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To: C210N

Back in the day, seeds were everywhere, and free. Now you can pay upwards of $5 apiece for them.


84 posted on 11/05/2017 5:02:05 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: huckfillary
Yup. In terms of stupidity, the War on Drugs is right up there with the War on Terror and the War on Poverty. Let’s end all of them.

Did you even read the article? What do you have to say about the studies cited, for example the one that says:

"The cannabis users, compared to both control groups, had deficits on verbal fluency, visual recognition, delayed visual recall, and short- and long-interval prospective memory....These findings suggest that cannabis use leads to impaired executive function."
85 posted on 11/05/2017 5:02:56 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: onona
Government Knows Best Always !

Government wants to legalize it. Did you read the article? It's scholarship that says cannabis use is bad for you--especially bad if you're under age 25.
86 posted on 11/05/2017 5:07:07 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: airborne
And citizens that are easier to control.

This and the potential tax revenues are the main reasons, in my opinion, why leftist governments want to legalize what is, in effect, a neurotoxin that damages the brain.
87 posted on 11/05/2017 5:08:10 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

There is a direct correlation between how well kids do in math and science in school and how well they’ll do in life.

Make flunking a math or science exam a Class A Misdemeanor and give them 180 days in jail.

That’ll teach’em...


88 posted on 11/05/2017 5:09:00 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Antoninus

My question on the topic is this: if an amendment was required to make alcohol illegal, from whence does the illegalization come from, considering no such amendment exists for regulating drugs?


89 posted on 11/05/2017 5:10:06 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Blood of Tyrants
I call for legalization for the same reason we ended Prohibition; because it was an abject failure that resulted mainly in increasing the power of the government.

It's even worse than Prohibition — w/ Prohibition we had an amendment authorizing the regulation, on this issue there is no such analogous amendment.

90 posted on 11/05/2017 5:13:09 PM PST by Edward.Fish
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To: Missouri gal
You attracted a lot of dopers from outside the forum.

Posts like this always do--no matter what forum you post to. Drugs do funny things to the brain, including giving the user a over-developed need to defend the use.
91 posted on 11/05/2017 5:15:39 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

Thank you for this post!


92 posted on 11/05/2017 5:24:12 PM PST by mlizzy (America needs no words from me to see how your decision in Roe/Wade has deformed a great nation. -MT)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t have a dog in the fight. Don’t use it, don’t care to have it around me. I think it’s a nonissue at this point: the bulk of the population either lives in a state where use is legal or is in easy driving distance of a state where it’s legal. For better or worse, the issue has been resolved. Also I don’t see politicians resisting the revenues that legalization would provide. So Legalization will spread.

Personally I don’t view it as the governments place to protect everyone from every potential folly. Take stupid drugs, win stupid prizes. Not that my opinion much matters at this point.


93 posted on 11/05/2017 5:28:59 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Christianity and politics don't mix.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Personally I don’t view it as the governments place to protect everyone from every potential folly.

Local governments, like NJ for instance, have every right to make certain substances illegal if they are harmful.
94 posted on 11/05/2017 5:32:41 PM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: Antoninus

Use of marijuana should be done with caution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_skiJAHsQ


95 posted on 11/05/2017 5:37:17 PM PST by jonrick46 (Trump continues to have all the right enemies.)
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To: Fungi

Yep, they don’t believe in Consitutional protections and our God given freedoms, they are big govt liberals posing as conservatives.

Doesn’t matter though in 10 yrs maybe less it will be legal across the land.

Free the vegetable and maybe we can proclaim we are the land of the free again with a straight face.


96 posted on 11/05/2017 5:38:33 PM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: Antoninus
Local governments, like NJ for instance, have every right to make certain substances illegal if they are harmful.

New Jersey is the only state in the union that won't let you pump your own gas.

It's for the children...

97 posted on 11/05/2017 5:42:30 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Antoninus

No problem with it here, it’s a freedom issue. It will give those of us that avoid it a leg up. Not to mention all the lefties that will be too stoned to vote.


98 posted on 11/05/2017 5:42:46 PM PST by Teflonic (tt)
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To: Antoninus

In Colorado some towns and cities ban the stores. Their call. As I mentioned I don’t use it and don’t care to be around it. In the end I think it’ll be like the old wet and dry counties.


99 posted on 11/05/2017 5:44:00 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Christianity and politics don't mix.)
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To: Edward.Fish

ditto. Not to mention the War on Drugs has been a total failure in every way. Lets not forget asset forfeiture and how everyone is treated as guilty until proven innocent. It is just an excuse for Government expansion and statist control. But hey, it’s for the children. Like gun control, right?


100 posted on 11/05/2017 5:47:33 PM PST by TianaHighrider (Deplorable me)
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