Posted on 04/27/2017 10:42:29 AM PDT by blam
NEW YORK — A startling new report asserts that the first known Americans arrived much, much earlier than scientists thought — more than 100,000 years ago __ and maybe they were Neanderthals. If true, the finding would far surpass the widely accepted date of about 15,000 years ago.
Researchers say a site in Southern California shows evidence of humanlike behavior from about 130,000 years ago, when bones and teeth of an elephantlike mastodon were evidently smashed with rocks.
The earlier date means the bone-smashers were not necessarily members of our own species, Homo sapiens. The researchers speculate that these early Californians could have instead been species known only from fossils in Europe, Africa and Asia: Neanderthals, a little-known group called Denisovans, or another human forerunner named Homo erectus.
“The very honest answer is, we don’t know,” said Steven Holen, lead author of the paper and director of the nonprofit Center for American Paleolithic Research in Hot Springs, South Dakota. No remains of any individuals were found.
Whoever they were, they could have arrived by land or sea. They might have come from Asia via the Beringea land bridge that used to connect Siberia to Alaska, or maybe come across by watercraft along the Beringea coast or across open water to North America, before turning southward to California, Holen said in a telephone interview.
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Thanks for the links blam, I remember reading those articles here on FR years ago. Fascinating stuff!
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There’s legends about the some tribes pass down about killing groups of red haired white people. Fits the description of Neanderthals.
That's what post #2 is about.
https://youtu.be/1xkTN1Z1rTQ
Another interesting thing is that I recall reading years ago, that there were tales of very tall (6’6” or so) red headed people wearing deerskins and carrying bows and arrows, in Siberia as late as WWII.
Yo! There’s no need for that! Some of us are looking forward to dinner soon.
Wow! A Mastodon toe!
When the opportunity presents (especially with a know it all lib), I put my own theory of development & migration to stir it up.
Just a simple question, "who has slanted eyes"?, then the follow up "why"?
Funny I can’t recall what I had for breakfast yesterday but remember that thread? Grew up in Barstow about 12 miles from Calico.
I think I read even the Shawnee in the east have a similar legend.
Say what! Humans in America ‘115,000 years earlier than thought’
Agence France-Presse
April 26, 2017 · 4:45 PM EDT
https://www.pri.org/stories/2017-04-26/say-what-humans-america-115000-years-earlier-thought
Archaeology shocker: Study claims humans reached the Americas 130,000 years ago
By Sarah Kaplan
April 26, 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/04/26/archaeology-shocker-study-claims-humans-reached-the-americas-130000-years-ago/
Ancient Bones Spark Fresh Debate over First Humans in the Americas
By Kate Wong on April 26, 2017
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ancient-bones-spark-fresh-debate-over-first-humans-in-the-americas/
Note: this topic is from . Thanks blam.
Also on the same subject:
I d/led my raw file from Ancestry and uploaded it to an independent archaic DNA research project, came up with some other surprises as well.
As more individual Neandertal remains give up their DNA secrets, we’ll find there’s less and less difference.
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