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The Shroud of Turin, Authenticated Again
National Review ^ | 04/16/2016 | Myra Adams

Posted on 04/17/2016 6:27:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: History; Religion; Science
KEYWORDS: catholic; christ; christian; christianity; easter; jesus; medievalhoax; myraadams; nationalreview; orthodox; oviedo; resurrection; shroud; shroudofturin; sudarium; sudariumofoviedo; turin
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1 posted on 04/17/2016 6:27:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

One thing that amazes me (and he did this for Thomas) is that Jesus obviously healed the rest of his wounds (the whip marks, etc.), and could have easily healed up the holes in the hands, but kept them for Thomas to secure his belief. Such love. Amazing.


2 posted on 04/17/2016 6:30:30 AM PDT by Thorliveshere
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To: Thorliveshere

Yes indeed. What an awesome God we serve!


3 posted on 04/17/2016 6:36:38 AM PDT by mothball
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To: SeekAndFind

My question has always been: if the Shroud is a fake how did the people know about negative images?


4 posted on 04/17/2016 6:37:48 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: SeekAndFind

Jesus said we have to have faith. Yet “relics” are tools used to “prove” His power?

It seems like the kind of logic that makes those with average awareness say, “Huh?”

I have faith. The message makes sense to me without props. But to each his own.


5 posted on 04/17/2016 6:38:49 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Ask Bernie supporters two questions: Who is rich. Who decides. In the past, that meant who died.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Misleading headline. Even if the shroud is authentic, which it probably is not, it could never be authenticated.

Men did not wear long hair during that time.

I Cor. 11:14 — Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears long hair it is a disgrace for him...


6 posted on 04/17/2016 6:56:01 AM PDT by odawg
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To: mothball

“Those with faith need no explanation, and for those with no faith, no explanation is possible.” ~ Saint Thomas Aquinas.


7 posted on 04/17/2016 7:02:18 AM PDT by heterosupremacist ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does the shroud blood sample contain the Jewish DNA markers?


8 posted on 04/17/2016 7:08:28 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: SeekAndFind
Giulio Fanti...dated the Shroud to the time of Jesus, debunking the flawed carbon-14 testing conducted in 1988.

I'd love to read more about this. Is he the one who discovered the "reweaving" of the tested patches, or did he debunk the carbon-14 testing some other way?

9 posted on 04/17/2016 7:15:56 AM PDT by Nea Wood
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To: SkyDancer
Exactly.

Better yet ... If the Shroud is a fake, why can't anyone -- even in this age of modern, advanced technology -- replicate it?

10 posted on 04/17/2016 7:16:36 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Sometimes I feel like I've been tied to the whipping post.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Does the shroud blood sample contain the Jewish DNA markers?

Why would it? The features were clearly based on a Caucasian model; medieval relic makers wouldn't have dreamed of making Jesus look like an Jew.

11 posted on 04/17/2016 7:29:30 AM PDT by eclecticEel ("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
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To: odawg
"Men did not wear long hair during that time."

How long is "long"? That is a very relative term.

12 posted on 04/17/2016 7:32:16 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: SeekAndFind

Had to go through the whole article to find the important part:

... Miñarro stops short of linking the two cloths to Jesus,...


13 posted on 04/17/2016 7:38:00 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is with the eyes and pupils being visible? Leans me towards a painting.


14 posted on 04/17/2016 7:50:58 AM PDT by montag813
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Does the shroud blood sample contain the Jewish DNA markers?

Jesus should have been from the tribe of Judah (as a descendant of David). So the widely-known Levite line wouldn't be a help. But there are other Jewish markers that could be used.

15 posted on 04/17/2016 7:53:48 AM PDT by montag813
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The image was created through dehydration of the topmost fibrils in the shroud. There is no pigment in the image areas. So how do you paint without paint?


16 posted on 04/17/2016 7:56:20 AM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: eclecticEel

I understand your point...

Seems easy enough to test a sample and refine whether it was Jewish blood.

If Jewish, it is still possibly authentic. If not, it’s clearly fake.


17 posted on 04/17/2016 7:57:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (BREAKING.... Vulgarian Resistance begins attack on the GOPe Death Star.....)
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To: montag813

What is with the eyes and pupils being visible? Leans me towards a painting.


Those aren’t pupils. They are coins.


18 posted on 04/17/2016 8:00:30 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: montag813

By the way, I find it amusing that the coin types (which have letters from the coins recorded in the image) are called ...leptons.


19 posted on 04/17/2016 12:39:27 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: SeekAndFind; Alamo-Girl; albee; AnalogReigns; AnAmericanMother; Angelas; AniGrrl; annalex; ...
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20 posted on 04/17/2016 12:56:18 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue..)
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