Posted on 12/04/2015 12:28:41 AM PST by fulltlt
Just had a slight revelation.
To argue with a leftist that the government doesn’t have anything it doesn’t first take from the people is not an argument that makes sense to a leftist.
To a leftist (who wants free health insurance and free college, etc.) he thinks in a collectivist frame of mind. There are no individual people who the government taxes, there is only the collective that owns everything.
That is where the “We’re not broke” meme comes from. Everything belongs to the collective, the administrators of the collective just aren’t distributing stuff justly.
“Pieces of the pie”.
The leftist has a complete disconnect from the reality (feel free to explain it to them) that if you took all the wealth and distributed it equally we would all be starving in a year or so. Wealth just “is” it is not created or destroyed, it is just hoarded by the rich.
Thank you modern Universities for Marxist indoctrination!
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Healthcare run by the government is a means of control and so is taking away your gun. Nobody has the right to force somebody else to take care of them. That’s as much robbery as stealing. It’s just done by people in suits with credentials. While you may be the beneficiary in one case eventually they’ll rob from you too.
Well said...
“You’re right. There should be mandatory gun ownership with penalties for non compliance, and we should subsidize gun purchases for poorer people.
Call it ‘Obamagun’ or something.”
Thankyou.
I have learned much from my fellow posters here on FreeRepublic.
My thanks to my many teachers.
Sure. (Leaving aside the natural right, and the constitutional right) - Owing a gun is your choice, and is passive (it doesn’t require anyone else to do anything).
“Healthcare” involves the services of many other people, and usually their money as well. If you have a “right” to it, it follows that those other people are your slaves should they be unwilling to serve you on their terms, i.e., the execution of your “right” requires that you have the power to compel their labor, or their money, or both.
Two completely different concepts.
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The meme says "healthcare" but means "healthcare insurance" or some one else paying for my healthcare costs.
The right of self protection is inherent to the human condition, a right given by our Creator, when he gave us our souls with FRee will.
Insurance is a man made, individual responsibility.
There’s something wrong with people who think slavery is wrong, but freedom is too complicated.
“Anyone have a good comeback for this?”
I’m surprised you find this difficult. Off the top of my shiny head.
The right to own guns is clearly in the constitution, and everyone in this country gets healthcare. Ever hear of Medicaid?
There is something wrong with a political party that wants the people to turn all of their personal responsibility’s over to the govt.
There is something wrong with a political party that doesn’t understand the difference between a right and a personal responsibility.
There is something wrong with people who want the government to take care of them.
There is something wrong with people who think everything they need should be provided by others.
If healthcare is a right that must be provided by the govt, then the 2nd amendment requires the govt to buy us guns.
Both are rights limited only by your income.
The 2nd Amendment is a constraint on Government, just like most of the "Bill of Rights" and besides it is a right NOT a grant, you can have a gun, you are not furnished with one!
Government Health Care (GHC) is a grant, it forces Government to do something, thus becoming more intrusive and more antithetical to individual freedom. Taken to its logical conclusion, the grant of Government to provide universal health care would mean total government control over all actions that may cause health problems, now or in the future. Think of the expansion of the power of the EPA in the decades since Richard Nixon created it.
Thus the 2nd Amendment is a limited, individual and singular restraint on power while GHC is an unlimited expansion of government power.
“There’s something wrong with a person who can’t understand the Constitution.”
Have them point to the section of the constitution that talks about guns ...
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