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Denise Minger: Death By Food Pyramid, Women Who Gain Weight on Paleo, and How to Spot a Fraud
YouTube ^ | Published on Feb 13, 2014 | Abel James

Posted on 11/08/2015 5:22:42 PM PST by WhiskeyX

The Fat-Burning Man Show Denise Minger: Death By Food Pyramid, Women Who Gain Weight on Paleo, and How to Spot a Fraud

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: atkins; diabetes; food; health; highproteindiet; lowcarbdiet; nutrition
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Nutritional Health Series, Part 9

Denise Minger: Death By Food Pyramid, Women Who Gain Weight on Paleo, and How to Spot a Fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3mDslpMDGk

This video is one in a series of videos and websites which are being posted on FreeRepublic in the coming days in regard to nutritional health. In the beginning these videos were being posted as a rebuttal to an article and comments in another posted article on FreeRepublic remarking on obesity. Due to the strong interest in obesity and nutritional health as it relates to Type II Diabetes, the videos relating to Type II diabetes and how to reverse the progression of the disease are being moved forward among the other video topics in this series. Expect to see a mixture of videos regarding the role of carbohydrates in the diet and their relationship to nutritional health topics ranging from metabolic syndrome and Diabetes to dementia, Parkinson's Disease, Altzheimer's Disease, and more. The effects of standard government sponsored diets, health association diets, and alternative diets upon everyday nutrition, sports nutrition, and diabetic nutrition will be mixed in with videos focused on the use of various low carbohydrate and high fat (LCHF) diets, such as the ketogenic diets as a treatment for Type II Diabetes.

Anyone who is interested in following this series of posts about nutritional health is invited to request a ping.

The Nutritional Health Series includes the following FreeRepublic posts and links:

Nutritional Health Series, Part 1:

Why We Get Fat by Gary Taubes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357352/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 2:

Dr David Perlmutter: Grain Brain, Eating Fat Makes You Smart, and Why (Brain) Size Matters

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357380/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 3:

Reversing Type 2 diabetes starts with ignoring the guidelines | Sarah Hallberg | TEDxPurdueU

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3357393/posts?page=33#33

Nutritional Health Series, Part 4

Dr. Peter Attia: Readdressing Dietary Guidelines

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357711/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 5

Peter Attia: What if we're wrong about diabetes?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357772/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 6

The Perfect Treatment for Diabetes and Weight Loss

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357795/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 7

The Two Big Lies of Type 2 Diabetes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3357797/posts

Nutritional Health Series, Part 8

Why Is A Low Carb Diet Good for You?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3357870/posts?page=8#8

Nutritional Health Series, Part 9

Denise Minger: Death By Food Pyramid, Women Who Gain Weight on Paleo, and How to Spot a Fraud

1 posted on 11/08/2015 5:22:43 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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2 posted on 11/08/2015 5:23:38 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Too much grain stored in THAT pyramid.


3 posted on 11/08/2015 5:24:39 PM PST by fhayek
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To: WhiskeyX

Interesting, I’d been considering the paleo autoimmune protocol diet, but I don’t believe the “cave men” premise of paleo reasoning. God made man and that’s it-no evolution. It’s also quite restrictive and expensive. Paleo plus no eggs, no seeds or even seasonings that come from seeds, no tomatoes, etc. you can eat leafy greens and wild caught salmon. No way I can live off that and still have money left to feed my family!


4 posted on 11/08/2015 5:35:52 PM PST by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: NorthstarMom

“No way I can live off that and still have money left to feed my family!”

First of all it needs to be understood that there is no such thing as a one size fits all diet. Genetics and gene expression have a lot to do with how an individual person’s nutritional needs must be met. That said, however, the amount of carbohydrates, all of which are forms of sugars, in the government recommended diets are virtually certain to induce some level of metabolic syndrome, pre-diabetes, and/or diabetes in the majority of the population. Humans with rare exceptions are not biologically equipped to handle that much carbohydrates on a persistent basis without becoming nutritionally sick. Even when their bodies more or less manage to control the blood sugars, the effect in later life is responsible for the huge increases we’ve seen in recent decades with neurological disorders and particularly with the onset of dementia, Altzheimers Disease, Parkinson’s Disease, memory loss, and more.

Can you afford to do anything about it and still feed a family? Yes, it is not really so difficult so long as someone is around to cook fresh foods and freeze them when needed. The cost of the meat, fish, and poultry is not an obstacle; because the amount of protein included in each meal needs to be limited anyway, otherwise the protein could be converted into glucose that in turn spikes blood sugar, spikes insulin levels above normal, forces the metabolism out of a state nutritional ketosis, and blocks the ability to metabolize the body fat to maintain or lose excess body weight. also, the meats, fish, and poultry with the most fats needed to maintain a high ratio of fat in the diet are often the least expensive varieties in the supermarket. So the lower costs and lower quantities required in such a diet should actually decrease the costs to the budget when compared to prepared foods high in carbohydrates. The cost of the fresh and frozen vegetables can be higher, however, those higher costs can very often be mitigated at least part of the year by growing fresh greens at home, even at an apartment. A patio full of pots, clay and/or plastic, have been sufficient to more than fill the salad bowls of two adults.

Watch for more on the subject of foods, meal plans, and recipes in the upcoming videos. Watch for the videos where a chart is presented showing the nutritional relationship between many of the popular diets. The Paleo diets are represented on the chart/s, and note their relative position to the ketogenic diets.


5 posted on 11/08/2015 6:02:06 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

lose weight, excursive, eat better


6 posted on 11/08/2015 6:20:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: fhayek
Too much grain stored in THAT pyramid. The Carson/SDA food pyramid.

There are many causes for vitamin B12 deficiency.

Surprisingly, two of them are practices often undertaken to improve health:

1. Vegetarian diet

2. weight-loss surgery.

http://chriskresser.com/b12-deficiency-a-silent-epidemic-with-serious-consequences/

A primary sign of low B12 levels is a constant lack of energy.

Oct 26, 2015 - On Friday in Miami, Trump had ripped Carson for having even less energy than Jeb Bush, whom Trump has called low-energy.


7 posted on 11/08/2015 6:24:47 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("If you use FR and don't donate. That means that you are a Left Wing or Rino plant, to be ignored!)
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To: NorthstarMom
What did our ancestors eat? Probably depends on where our ancestors came from. There is a huge difference between a diet near the equator and ocean and the northern latitudes.

In the north — with seasons — Probably cyclical, few carbs in the winter, mostly wild game and fish. Fish and game meat preserved with salt. There might have been a fall harvest if people grew food.

Whatever was stored up from the fall harvest might have been consumed early on. How long does grain stay viable in storage?

Summer food probably consisted of berries and fruit. Add to the mix if an ancestor was nomadic.

Very likely very low fat and periods of starvation. Meat in the winter, grains and fruit in the summer. Equatorial regions probably had a greater variety year-round.

So folks with ancestors northern latitudes might have sensitives to food types that people from equatorial regions don't have and visa versa. Maybe why some people have a predisposition to cholesterol.

8 posted on 11/08/2015 6:30:14 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: dhs12345

Just look at pictures of our ancestors from about 1900. They were all thin. They age vegetables and fruits in the summer, but winter they ate any vegetables that would survive in the root cellar. They had milk and cheese year round and probably some meat too. Depending on where they lived they may have had maple syrup or molasses. They did not drink extra large sodas and they did not eat double big macs. Anybody who says it doesn’t boil down to portion size and exercise is failing to look at history.


9 posted on 11/08/2015 6:41:04 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

They also did a hell of a lot more manual labor


10 posted on 11/08/2015 6:56:17 PM PST by reed13k (w)
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To: ladyjane
No doubt they got a lot of exercise out in the sun all day. Now we sit in front of a tube all day long under florescent lights.

Also, starvation wasn't a bad thing — apparently, organisms, while under stress, will produce hormones that protect the organism.

11 posted on 11/08/2015 7:03:37 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: WhiskeyX

Have you considered the gut bugs and the starches (especially resistant starches) they need in your diet plan? The best diets in traditional and more modern societies include a lot of healthy starch. Traditionally it was tubers, roots, etc. Even some grain as in smashed grass seeds, even fermented mashes of it.

If you covered this, never mind, because I didn’t watch your video. I don’t enjoy taking that much time to get info so I prefer reading, that’s just me.


12 posted on 11/08/2015 7:11:08 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Denise Minger raised that potential issue, and it is certainly an interesting question for which I know of no particular answer at the moment. however, it should be noted that the use of ketogenic diets are nothing new under the Sun at all. Humans have been using ketogenic diets throughout human history, and it is only the last century that the American diet has come to be so dominated by the low fat and high carbohydrate diets coincident with the explosive increases in the incidence of metabolic syndrome, Diabetes mellitus Type II, dementia, Altzheiner’s Disease, Parkinson’s Disease, memory loss, and so forth.

It should also be especially noted how the medical community before 1920 used ketogenic diets as a medical therapy for a variety of otherwise intractable medical disorders such as epilepsy, autism, and diabetes Type II. Ketogenic diets, low carbohydrate and high fat, were formerly the norm in past centuries. It is only in today’s upside down society that it is treated as what some people posting in this forum are trying to describe as a “bizarre” diet.


13 posted on 11/08/2015 7:24:54 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: fhayek
This is the proper way to store grain; compact, portable and cleaner than spring water.


14 posted on 11/08/2015 7:26:41 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: ladyjane

Also, foods that are borderline rotten. Even though the foods might not be that palatable, they might be more nutritional.

For example, meat products might be broken down and easier to digest and maybe more nutritional. Meat is always aged which means that it hangs in a shed for a period of time. Is this an accident.

Of course, the is always yeast fermented fruits and grains. :)


15 posted on 11/08/2015 7:31:07 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: ladyjane

“Anybody who says it doesn’t boil down to portion size and exercise is failing to look at history.”

That is denying the biochemistry found in today’s research, it denies the experience of millions of people today, it denies the reversal of diabetes members of this forum have experienced, and it denies the fact that very low carbohydrate ketogenic diets were used by 18th, 19th, and early 20th Century physicians as a treatment for diabetes occurring in their early American populations.


16 posted on 11/08/2015 7:34:35 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Grampa Dave

Note the conspicuous omission of meats, fish, and poultry.


17 posted on 11/08/2015 7:37:08 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

What if you are allergic to sea food? Hanging over the toilet and puking for several hours is no fun. So far that is all it does. Next bout could be a ER trip.

Having a Digestive Disorder is no fun either, when it takes you 4 hrs to digest what some one else would digest in 1 hr. I’m talking 2 slices of toast and 2 egg whites, with jelly, margarine and 4 oz of water, which the test consist of that is laced with radioactive tracers. Took me nearly 4 hrs to digest that, normal people take 1 hr. Gastroparesis.
Ginger Root capsules stopped the puking and nausea, but nothing stops the other side diarrhea/constipation, and it has a lot to do with the foods you do eat. No high fiber, which is many greens, high fat, or dense meats.

I can agree that the food pyramid should be reversed, but remember meat eaten in to great a quantity causes joint pain.


18 posted on 11/08/2015 7:42:47 PM PST by GailA (If You don't keep your Promises to Our Troops, thu won't keep them to anyone. Ret. SCPO's wife)
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To: Sgt_Schultze

I wonder where that fits in the food pyramid. Near the top, I’d wager.


19 posted on 11/08/2015 7:43:45 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

That’s a grain for sure.


20 posted on 11/08/2015 8:03:22 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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