Jason Charles, in my estimation, is a straw man, an agent provocateur, an amalgam of characters or made up out of whole cloth. It wouldn’t be the first time a journalist had used that technique.
Posted on 10/17/2014 3:50:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
It’s showtime for the Doomsday set. As the lethal virus crosses America’s doorstep, prep kits and gas masks are flying off shelves and fringe survivalists are going mainstream.
Jason Charles knows the exact moment he will lead his wife and five kids out of their Harlem home, pile into a car, and take off for the wilderness. It will be not long after Ebola reaches the population of New York City, hospitals overflow, and looting begins—when the first riots break out on the streets of Manhattan.
“Right now it isn’t bad, but if the first case happens in New York, you start hearing about hundreds or thousands of people getting sick and it shotguns through the city, then you want to start getting your plan together to leave,” says the 37-year-old fireman and dedicated prepper. When that happens, he says, “it’s a free fall, that’s the system breaking down.”
But the moment of evacuation is delicate. Skipping work, pulling the kids out of school—all of these decisions have lasting consequences. “If you leave too early, you look like an idiot; if you leave too late, you could be dead,” Charles says....
(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...
Manhattan would be another case! I need to cross a mile wide river if the causeways are closed!
“No, it is deadly, but less contagious. I see the virus as a health system problem.”
We don’t know how contagious it is. We know some people have had significant exposure but remain healthy. Others have minimal exposure and get it.
What we do know is it has been used as the example of a worst case ever since it was discovered. Not just by people on a blog, but by the experts who were studying it.
That's because 1 virus can infect you. In that sense "minimal" means a health care worker covered in patient blood gets hit with the tiniest speck. In Texas they did not wear sealed protective equipment so their "minimal" exposure was enough. OTOH, some people have suggested the people Duncan visited may have immunity. That's possible. Also we are talking about completely unknowable cases. We don't if those people touched Duncan's vomit or if it had a significant virus load.
Ebola is worst case for Africa where they wash the dead, etc. The worst case here would be smallpox if we did not have a vaccine or probably a dozen other viruses due to contagiousness.
I read where Duncan’s family said he stayed in his room and cleaned up after himself in the bathroom.
I also recall reading about some village in West Africa where the Ebola did not spread due to their customs. A sick person would be kept in their own area of the hut or room, with limited contact from others. And no children at all allowed near them.
I’m guessing in the last stages, Duncan was bleeding out of every oriface of his body, and then having spasms that flings the blood and vomit and feces all over the place. Prayers for those that treated him.
(Hmm - that would seem to occur to a victim on the other side of the hut in Africa too in the last stages. Perhaps something else, like immunity, is going on.)
The experts who have studied ebola use it as a worst case without an qualification (eg Africa).
We’ll see. We have 150 incomings a day and Obola is going to test the theory using American lives. Will it be a lot of lives, or just a few? Immoral but at least it’s not as bad as Nazi Germany.
I ate mine years ago.
As someone who’s been poor, and living on the Gulf Coast, let’s put a few truths out there.
Hamburger helper, without the hamburger isn’t “expensive” and you can live on it, ever hear of this thing called a Sale?
Ever hear of a Salvage shop? You might not know about places where you can (or used to could) buy dented or smashed canned goods for 10 to 25 cents, cans with no labels. Ever been so poor that you bought as many of those that you could, praying to GOD that they weren’t dog food.
I have been that poor, so tread lightly in your response...unless you’ve been there, you don’t know squat.
You aren’t telling me anything, but I am poor enough that I skip the hamburger helper, even on sale, and do buy dented cans.
Why would I tread lightly on a prepper thread when telling about my decades of experience as a prepper?
My groceries can reach 60 to 80 pounds of pinto beans, and rice, at a time, and me grinding my own wheat, and sprouting wheat, and making my own marshmallows and canning, and making pasta.
How can you twist a prepper discussion into something personal, and especially how do you twist the poor guy’s knowledge on cheap food, into some kind of attack on you?
I received this email from HSI (Health Sciences Institute)...
Ebola checklist: 5 steps you can take TODAY
Each day the Ebola news gets worse. The number of infections is rising. Our hospitals are not ready for the challenge.
It’s clear our government doesn’t have a clue how to keep you and your family safe. That’s why the Health Sciences Institute has developed this essential list of five simple things you can do RIGHT NOW to stay safe from Ebola.
Step #1: Avoid commercial travel. Dozens of travelers from Ebola-ravaged regions are arriving at American airports each day. Remember that even common sense precautions like surgical masks will not fully protect you from the Ebola virus.
Step #2: Prepare your immune system: Some of the best supplements for this purpose include probiotics, echinacea, olive leaf extract, sambucus (also called elderberry), zinc and vitamin C.
For vitamin C, use the “bowel tolerance” test — take as much (start with 5,000-8,000 mg.) that your bowels will tolerate. For probiotics, look for labels that specifically indicate live, living, or active cultures.
Step #3: Try to stay out of the hospital: Avoid risky situations that could land you in the ER. A recent survey of nurses found that 80 percent had received no Ebola training, which puts ALL hospital patients at risk.
Step #4: Start taking silver NOW. Colloidal silver has been used for centuries to treat infections, and it may fight Ebola the same way it’s been shown to stop similar viruses. Colloidal silver is well known for its ability to kill microbes and even antibiotic resistant superbugs.
Starting a silver regimen now will give you an upper hand if you should contract Ebola or any other virus. Colloidal silver can be found online, in big drug store chains and stores like GNC.
Step #5: Track down these promising treatments in your market. Some of the most effective Ebola treatments are not available at every doctor’s office or hospital — but you’ll likely find them within driving distance. They include:
• Hydrogen peroxide therapy: Intravenous hydrogen peroxide has already been highly effective against similar hemorrhagic diseases such as dengue hemorrhagic fever, Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever, Omsk hemorrhagic fever and more.
• Intravenous vitamin C: IVC is specifically designed to stop bacterial and viral infections. Dr. Robert Cathcart, an IVC pioneer, recommends “at least” 180 grams of IVC every 24 hours to control symptoms and bring down fevers.
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I live just southside of that large northern OH city. I applaud your thinking.
I've been impressed by the precautions taken by the city and the sensible choices such as giving schools that needed it thorough sanitizing cleaning. But I like many people don't necessarily have confidence in all medical facilities in the area.
Unless medical professionals think as you do, there won't be any professionals who aren't quarantined if things get out of hand. Long-term, how does would that help anyone?
Jason Charles, in my estimation, is a straw man, an agent provocateur, an amalgam of characters or made up out of whole cloth. It wouldn’t be the first time a journalist had used that technique.
>>If 10,000,000 people are trying to get off the island, what odds that you’ll actually _keep_ it long enough to get on it?<<
Not only that but the island will tip over if that many people leave!
A link to this thread has been posted on the Ebola Surveillance Thread
Since Uncle Ebola came knocking I noticed that my preparedness book (”When There is no FEMA”) has been flying off the shelves about 3x faster....so I would say this article is about right.
I never viewed it as a personal attack on myself, but was defending someone whom it seemed you were being personal too.
IF, as you say you’ve been poor, and understand, then even you must admit that you can only eat so many beans, I guess I wasn’t paying attention (sarcasm), but in all your YEARS of experience does the word diversity of diet mean anything to you?
IF as a prepper ALL you have is beans, rice, and more beans you get pretty damn sick of it quickly.
There was nothing wrong with post 87, it was a very useful prepper post.
Beans and rice are everyday staples for millions, besides, whether you like them yourself or not is not the issue, the question was how poverty fits easily into stocking up and preparedness, it is not the barrier that a new prepper might think it is.
Learn to cook from scratch, store foods in their most basic forms. If you buy your eggs in bulk when the big sale comes and pickle them, then you have eggs that last for years, that is poor people style, just as it is to buy beans in bulk for huge savings.
Thanks for the ping!
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