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Apocalypse Now: Preppers Are Gearing Up for Ebola
The Daily Beast ^ | October 17, 2014 | Nina Strochlic

Posted on 10/17/2014 3:50:54 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

It’s showtime for the Doomsday set. As the lethal virus crosses America’s doorstep, prep kits and gas masks are flying off shelves and fringe survivalists are going mainstream.

Jason Charles knows the exact moment he will lead his wife and five kids out of their Harlem home, pile into a car, and take off for the wilderness. It will be not long after Ebola reaches the population of New York City, hospitals overflow, and looting begins—when the first riots break out on the streets of Manhattan.

“Right now it isn’t bad, but if the first case happens in New York, you start hearing about hundreds or thousands of people getting sick and it shotguns through the city, then you want to start getting your plan together to leave,” says the 37-year-old fireman and dedicated prepper. When that happens, he says, “it’s a free fall, that’s the system breaking down.”

But the moment of evacuation is delicate. Skipping work, pulling the kids out of school—all of these decisions have lasting consequences. “If you leave too early, you look like an idiot; if you leave too late, you could be dead,” Charles says....

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: ebola; newyork; obama; preppers; prepping; survival; survivalists
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To: ctdonath2

Bet the blowing of the bridges and drowning the tunnels will be done by the citizens on the other side.


61 posted on 10/17/2014 8:47:14 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: palmer

Quite.

We’re not a really touchy-feely culture. We don’t hug the infected or dead at length. We know enough to keep hands off the sick & infectious. We tend to keep ourselves and environments clean. The odds of actual exposure are very very small.

Problem is, if you _are_ exposed, that Ebola is _extremely_ infectious. The virus is very small, getting in any pore or cut or still-adhering excretion. Once in, it turns you into a virus-spawning-and-spewing machine in short order - making you a horrible mess for others to deal with, and your survival odds grim.

It’s not so much contracting Ebola to worry about, it’s the sociopolitically devastating path of destruction it leaves in its wake as people freak out, social systems shut down, handling costs skyrocket, opportunists “don’t let a crisis go to waste”, etc. on top of the still-present chance of watching yourself liquify.

It’s a threat to be sure. It also doesn’t warrant irrational & non-sequitur response. Check your supplies, wash your hands, don’t touch people who can’t vouch for health, be ready to telecommute. Don’t “do something” unless there is an actual reason to do it.


62 posted on 10/17/2014 8:48:54 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: mom.mom

You keep an inflatable boat in your Manhattan office or apartment?


63 posted on 10/17/2014 8:49:34 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Poverty should make it more natural and simple to be a prepper.


64 posted on 10/17/2014 9:03:26 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ctdonath2
You keep an inflatable boat in your Manhattan office or apartment?

I was recommending that to my son ever since he moved to New York.

65 posted on 10/17/2014 9:09:24 AM PDT by ansel12 ( LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nationÂ’s electorate for democrats)
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To: ctdonath2

Boat and supplies are under the floor of my car’s trunk and is ready in case I have to get home across a river. Just part of my BUG-OUT and GO-BACK planning.


66 posted on 10/17/2014 9:09:41 AM PDT by 3D-JOY
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“If you leave too early, you look like an idiot; if you leave too late, you could be dead,” Charles says....”

I don’t care what I look like to others, but leaving too early means you’ll still be alive. Of course, if nothing happens, you’ve lost your job and house for nothing.


67 posted on 10/17/2014 9:18:59 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

“Ebola is “Obama’s Civil War II Gift to America” ... without the nuisance of a Fort Sumpter ...”

Would that be a good or bad thing?

I mean, do you think he is importing Ebola on purpose to create chaos and declare martial law or that the sheep will finally see the damage he is doing and fight back?


68 posted on 10/17/2014 9:27:09 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: bgill

“Bet the blowing of the bridges and drowning the tunnels will be done by the citizens on the other side.”

Hell yes. New Jersey is certainly not going to welcome Manhattanites with open arms if Ebola breaks out in the city. There is also a little bit of built-up resentment from years of paying $13.00 tolls just to be allowed to drive into that wretched hive of scum and villainy.


69 posted on 10/17/2014 9:33:46 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Travis McGee

“Note: Duncan would still get in today, if he was at the same stage of his infection, and he lied again.”

Now that’s scary - nothing has been learned by letting Ebola into this country.


70 posted on 10/17/2014 9:38:17 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: yorkiemom
I mean, do you think he is importing Ebola on purpose to create chaos and declare martial law or that the sheep will finally see the damage he is doing and fight back?

I believe that he is importing Ebola on purpose to expose and infect as many of the sheep as possible. I believe that he is sending as many military personnel over there to be exposed, become infected and return to spread the virus as possible.

I no longer believe the sheep give a damn.

It is a mystery to me as to why those in the Military chain of command, those whose lives they are entrusted to safeguard do not stop this illegal farce. Perhaps they no longer give a damn also.

Yorkiemom, it beats the hell out of me. I never thought that I would live to see this day come.

71 posted on 10/17/2014 9:40:01 AM PDT by sport
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To: Travis McGee

““In that context, it’s rather funny to watch PC-unto-death liberals mock those who have, for example, purchased a month or more of survival food. If your neighborhood is quarantined, what will you do? Wait for Big Guv to roll in with free food? Or just get on the bus to the FEMA fever camp?”

Hilariously brilliant.


72 posted on 10/17/2014 9:41:43 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: sport

“It is a mystery to me as to why those in the Military chain of command, those whose lives they are entrusted to safeguard do not stop this illegal farce. Perhaps they no longer give a damn also.”

I wish they would refuse this command. Our military should not be used for humanitarian efforts that put them at risk.

It makes me sick to think of our men and women forced to go over there.

I think this is just one more way of advancing Cloward-Pivan.


73 posted on 10/17/2014 9:51:30 AM PDT by yorkiemom ( "...if fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism." - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ctdonath2

You’d be surprised at how small good-quality inflatable boats are when stored.

I still think a kayak or small canoe would be better. They can even be outfitted with small lightweight sails. And they’ll fit ok in small Manhattan apartments. Just have to be creative, like keeping it mounted up on a wall like a painting or decoration (I know kayakers who do this).

Preferably I’d have a small sailboat at one of the small marinas on Manhattan. Again, nothing big or fancy, as small as possible while still having enough room for a cuddy cabin to hold a few days food and water. And the ability to mount a small outboard motor. Maybe something in the 14-15’ range, which I’ve been pricing out recently (for recreational use mostly, quick escape if necessary) and can be had for less than $5K.

Just enough to una&& the city and find safe harbor somewhere.


74 posted on 10/17/2014 10:08:39 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Free America52
For anyoneone wanting to stock up I have found The Ready Store to be a great resource.

If you don't already have all your prepping done, it's too late.

75 posted on 10/17/2014 10:42:12 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: 3D-JOY

You live in Manhattan and have a car?

Freaking expensive to park...


76 posted on 10/17/2014 10:43:39 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: tanknetter

Saw this on Shark Tank earlier this year.

I’m getting one next year.

http://www.orukayak.com/oru-kayak#packages

It folds up and is easy to carry on your back or by the handles, stores well without taking up space and weighs all of 26 pounds:
http://www.orukayak.com/oru-kayak#packages


77 posted on 10/17/2014 10:53:57 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Epidemic is simply another thing to prep for, not so likely as a power outage and rather more likely than most of the other things (although looking at certain fashion pages I am certain the zombie apocalypse is upon us). This isn't panic, it's common sense.

Urbanites, bug in, is my advice. I don't want to drag your carcass out of a frozen river. And even without power your downtown apartment is preferable to a refugee camp.

78 posted on 10/17/2014 11:02:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: tanknetter; 3D-JOY; ansel12

I agree it’s conceivable to have an inflatable boat on Manhattan, maybe practical, and perhaps it’s a good idea.

Next question: If 10,000,000 people are trying to get off the island, what odds that you’ll actually _keep_ it long enough to get on it? “OMG he has a boat! take it!” [mob descends, tearing it & owner to shreds]


79 posted on 10/17/2014 11:30:13 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (You know what, just do it.)
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To: ctdonath2

It’s still a matter of timing the exit right. A boat just buys you a lot of extra time before you have to make the decision.

Successfully getting out of Manhattan by vehicle or foot in the event of an event is, in a lot of cases, going to require precognition. Aka “Spider Sense”. That only exists in the comic books.

But the truth is that even with a boat it will still be possible to wait too long. But the extra time to decision it grants, be it 15 minutes or an hour, may save your life. It certainly increases the odds of survival substantially. Particularly if you have a way to conceal the boat (large wheeled suitcase, which a LOT of people will have with them, will hold a small inflatable) and a predetermined concealed drop in spot (with backup locations spec’d out).


80 posted on 10/17/2014 11:40:24 AM PDT by tanknetter
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