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Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory
Infowars, Rense, Natural News, Before Its News, Salon.com ^ | January 18, 2013 | Alex Seitz-Wald

Posted on 01/20/2013 6:13:45 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Sirius Lee
Fast and Furious demonstrated beyond a doubt that there are elements in this government who are perfectly willing to place innocent persons at risk, and indeed to have them killed in order to further an anti-gun agenda. That is beyond dispute.

Whether or not they had anything to do with Sandy Hook is then, not a question of "Would they?" rather, a question of, "did they?", and if so, "how?"

21 posted on 01/20/2013 7:25:43 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Sirius Lee

Unabomber experimented on by known CIA affiliate.

Colorado Movie Shooter known mental issues under observation at an interesting facility.

Lanza- not much known.

It’s possible that they short circuit after being experimented on or that they are programmed.

Who knows.

Or they could be just ordinary nuts who hit the male schizophrenia age.

Interestingly, the Franklin Cover Up indicates that young people were experimented on to actually break them down and make them schizophrenic. In turn, they went out and got blackmail info on Congress. Might explain some of the actions we have seen. One person theorized that Evan Bayh might have been persuaded based on info on his Dad. Purely conjecture.

But we do know that MK Ultra successfully programmed a person who feared guns to pick up a gun on command and shoot someone - and then forget about it later.

The fact that the media is not after details is a red flag to me.


22 posted on 01/20/2013 7:29:36 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The main underlying reason for the conspiracy theories is the complete lack of trust in the MSM, in my opinion. We saw how they helped the Obama agenda with Benghazi. So when the MSM gets parts of the story wrong with Sandy Hook, it will happen that people will think something is amiss. And especially when so many members of the MSM turn around and use Sandy Hook to blatantly shill for gun grabbing.


23 posted on 01/20/2013 7:30:25 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: apoliticalone

” When if ever will we hear what drugs were in Lanza’s system? “

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The toxiclogy results might be in, but maybe are not being released pending completion of the full autopsy report. This is often standard procedure. Bureaucracy moves slowly. Full autopsy results are often not availaible for at least six weeks from the date of the incident. I think we are just now coming up on six weeks, correct?


24 posted on 01/20/2013 7:33:42 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: Joe 6-pack

Operation Northwoods signed off by Joint Chiefs shows that, too.

I have often wondered if Alex Jones was sent out to use Operation Northwoods as a basis for his 9/11 Truther claims in order to desensitize people to the notion of Operation Northwoods.

People try to claim that Kennedy rejected Operation Northwoods. No , he didn’t.

He rejected military action according to the notation of someone at a meeting.

Again, who knows what really went on.


25 posted on 01/20/2013 7:34:54 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: Sirius Lee
Who ran from police instead of just showing identifying himself.

That was Christopher Manfredonia not the police officer.

26 posted on 01/20/2013 7:41:41 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: dirtboy
It is possible that MSM is intentionally given wrong info.

Pretend for a moment that you are an immoral devious narcisstic politician who is capable of Fast and Furious and god knows what else. You have stated in your early years that you want to confiscate guns.

If you are capable of Fast and Furious you are capable of setting about a situation like Sandy Hook.
But, how to distract from it?

Gin up the conspiracy that Sandy Hook never happened . Make sure enough conflicting info gets out there to set people off on the conspiracy bandwagon. Is this just a random nut that went on a murder spree? It's possible...or maybe he had a little help.

27 posted on 01/20/2013 7:49:28 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: mosesdapoet

<>Lost in all of this is the police response time which has been reported as long as 20 munutes.<>

Whoever believes that IS lost.

The response was 3 minutes as documented by the police dispatch published here the following day:

http://nhregister.com/articles/2012/12/14/news/doc50cc0897adc1a203744261.txt?viewmode=2


28 posted on 01/20/2013 7:54:01 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip; mosesdapoet; cripplecreek

“The response was 3 minutes”

Given that the entire front of the school was lined in glass, why didn’t the police shoot the f*er right then? Police could have aimed high, since these were small children, just to draw his fire or make him run the other way.

To Uncle Chip:
You mentioned to me on another post that police identified two people in a hallway. Were the police inside then?

Finally, you are quick to answer back with something to any question. Do you work for the Administration, the FBI, DOJ, Obama for America or for Obama for Action?


29 posted on 01/20/2013 8:10:56 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: mosesdapoet
Lost in all of this is the police response time which has been reported as long as 20 munutes.

As they say in the pro-gun circles: "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

Salon “where the effete meet to bleat” does not go into speculation about motive outside of the fact that the kid was nuts. There’s a diversion going on about what was going on in that kids twisted mind. Expending as many rounds as he did in his victims he definetly meant to kill not maim.

Well, I heard speculation that he went on his rampage because his mother was about to have him committed. Also, there is speculation that he was jealous of these innocent kids, something along the lines of his mother loving them more than she loved him (it has been said that she volunteered at the school).

Was he “executing” them or was he “saving” them in his twisted mind ? There is a difference. Also not mentioned examining what medications he was on and the examination of what was in his computer.

The computer is gonna take a while, or maybe forever, since the hard drive was smashed. I personally don't see any reason why any medications can't be disclosed.

30 posted on 01/20/2013 8:31:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Parker thing is very disturbing. He was definitely acting. A false flag conspiracy is one plausible explanation. Coincidence theorists like the author look foolish to me - running around plugging holes in the dyke. This is a coincidence, that’s a coincidence, the next fifty weird things about the case are all coincidences. And none of the coincidence theorists give any real accounting to the perennial question - “Qui Bono.” It’s all very convenient politically speaking And it also doesn’t take into account the fact that MSM routinely lies for Obama (Fast and Furious, Ben Ghazi, inflated economic numbers). Occam’s Razor, folks. We go with the theory that explains the most facts the most elegantly until another, better theory is found. Coincidence theories are very weak here. The false flag theory is much stronger. The scientific method requires that we proceed under the assumption that the false flag theory is true, until proven otherwise. In other words, the burden of proof has shifted for the government to prove its innocence.


31 posted on 01/20/2013 8:45:44 AM PST by Gluteus Maximus
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To: cripplecreek
My main concern is with the lack of a footprint Lanza left online.

Why? Adam Lanza was by all accounts reclusive and anti-social to an extreme. Why is it so unbelievable that he would not have left a big social presence online foot print? Sure, he was supposedly big into playing video games but not all games or players use multi-player options.

FWIW, I know a good number of people who do not use personal email accounts, don’t use Facebook or Twitter, etc. even some who do not even have PC’s at home. I work in HR and my employer has for the last two years required all employees to make their annual open enrollment benefit elections on line through our self service portal. But being a manufacturing company not all our employee’s have work computers and work emails. And I was surprised to learn that a number of these folks didn’t have PC’s at home and so we had to provide them with access to a PC at work, a temporary email account and basically hand hold them through the process as they were pretty much computer illiterate. These folks must have a zero online foot print but the absence of such is not evidence of their trying to hide something.

That Lanza tried to destroy his PC does not preclude the possibility that he had no on-line foot print. Busting up my hard drive wouldn’t destroy or erase my online footprint BTW.

32 posted on 01/20/2013 8:50:44 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: RummyChick

Oh, I never said conspiracies don’t exist.
I’m just fond of shredding a particular kind which is usually, grotesquely, wrong.


33 posted on 01/20/2013 8:57:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: combat_boots
Given that the entire front of the school was lined in glass, why didn’t the police shoot the f*er right then?

Because he probably wasn't there by the glass and they are smarter than that.

You mentioned to me on another post that police identified two people in a hallway. Were the police inside then?

I am assuming so because they called for two ambulances right off the bat and there were two bodies right there as they entered the front door -- the principal and school psychologist.

Finally, you are quick to answer back with something to any question...

No -- but I have followed this from the start and had all the same questions you and others do but actually took the time to search out the answers rather than still be asking them a month later. And I didn't have to go to the moon or the bottom of the ocean to get them or some other esoteric source. They are all publicly available and incontrovertible like the police dispatch published by the New Haven Register the day of the shooting.

34 posted on 01/20/2013 8:58:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“But there was another man in the woods (maybe): Eyewitnesses saw a second man in the woods wearing camouflage pants and a dark jacket, and said that he may have been armed. Must be a second shooter.

Answer: Actually, he was, according to the Newtown Bee, “an off-duty tactical squad police officer from another town” who heard the gunfire.”

Well this is the first I have heard of this explanation. A bit odd that an off duty cop from another town would 1 be there, 2 wearing camo, and 3 running from the real police... no? What was his name?


35 posted on 01/20/2013 9:01:40 AM PST by wolfman23601
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To: RummyChick

Let me answer this way:
I believe there is something very wrong with Obama’s BC.
All the popular arguments are, however, very wrong.


36 posted on 01/20/2013 9:04:47 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: wolfman23601
3 running from the real police... no?

Where does it say in that sentence or any sentence in any article that he was running from the real police???

37 posted on 01/20/2013 9:06:16 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MD Expat in PA

You’ve got an interesting footprint here at FR yourself.


38 posted on 01/20/2013 9:07:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
You’ve got an interesting footprint here at FR yourself.

Meaning what exactly?

39 posted on 01/20/2013 9:16:43 AM PST by MD Expat in PA
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To: Uncle Chip

The scene is one of the few details we actually have footage on.


40 posted on 01/20/2013 9:17:03 AM PST by wolfman23601
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