Your comprehensive answer to every Sandy Hook conspiracy theory

Infowars, Rense, Natural News, Before Its News, Salon.com ^ | January 18, 2013 | Alex Seitz-Wald

[Uncle Chip]

There was only one shotgun and it was the one found in the vehicle per police reports.

More than likely they searched his vehicle and the trunk and found that shotgun before going into the school. A mother was interviewed by the media who was there at the front door at that time while there was still shooting in the school and saw the doors of the vehicle open and stuff from inside the vehicle strewn about outside the open doors. Odds are they popped the trunk and found the shotgun then.

[bitterohiogunclinger]

“The Parker thing is very disturbing. He was definitely acting.”
There are many actions involving the relatives of those killed that are disturbing. I realize that those grieving behave bizarrely, but way too many of them are smiling and yukking it up on camera. What became of the “Gene Rosen” interviews? None of what he said makes any sense at all.

[Boogieman]

“Lost in all of this is the police response time which has been reported as long as 20 munutes.”

I think that was just bad reporting, because the police radio logs have them on the scene just a few minutes after they received the first call.

[Boogieman]

“Finally, you are quick to answer back with something to any question.”

It’s pretty easy when the conspiracy theorists keep asking the same questions that have already been answered.

[VeniVidiVici]

More than likely they searched his vehicle and the trunk and found that shotgun before going into the school.

That doesn't make any sense. Cops are responding to an active shooter in a school with hundreds of kids. I find it unlikely they will stop and search a car that has a yet unknown link to the crime prior to going into the school to take out the shooter.

The statement prior makes it even more unusual:

9:53:25: “Newtown’s reporting one suspect down. The building has now been cleared.”

9:55:25: “Be advised, we have multiple weapons. One rifle and a shotgun”

Suppose they did find the shotgun prior to entering the school. They they find a dead Lanza who killed himself with a pistol. Why not report "multiple weapons - a rifle, shotgun and two pistols"?

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but from the beginning I've found it strange that everyone says that the .223 would be the weapon of choice for this when clearly it would be the semi-auto 12ga shotgun. The only reason I can see Lanza not using it because it would probably have knocked him on his ass. But then, why bring it?

[wolfman23601]

Those are not khaki camo pants and that was in fact the fire house.

[Uncle Chip]

<> find it unlikely they will stop and search a car<>

Look at the picture of the location of his car at wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

His black Honda was parked 20 feet from the entrance in a marked off No Parking Zone and stood out as unusual. It could have had someone hiding in it or explosive charges attached. They had to check it first. If they didn’t it would have been negligent of them.

Also there were 13 local police responding — while some were chasing the guy into the woods, others were checking the vehicle, and others were entering the school.

<>Why not report “multiple weapons - a rifle, shotgun and two pistols”?<>

They could have but they didn’t. They were still searching the building and probably expected to find more weapons.

What surprises me here is that some say that initial reports are the most trustworthy and therefore they cling to the NBC report as if it is Gospel because it was first.

Well it wasn’t first. This police dispatch was recorded LIVE and published the same day — a day before the erroneous “4 handgun” NBC report.

So if initial reporting is so trustworthy to these people then why aren’t they accepting the initial reporting???

[wolfman23601]

And I don’t know why you are trying to argue this. Even the Newtown m newspaper admits the guy in the woods is the off duty police officer from out of town. That is not a conspiracy theory. What was his name?

[Uncle Chip]

That sure looks like it may be a police officer wearing a kevlar vest and camo khaki pants.

Post the picture for others to see.

[Uncle Chip]

Did you read the article???

There were two separate people identified:

1] Chris Manfredonia who was chased up into the woods by the school in the infamous video at the 3 minute mark and

2] this off duty police officer who they found in the woods — when and where no one knows.

[ctdonath2]

Well, you’ve pretty much written your memoirs. Print and edit this: http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:mdexpatinpa/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change

[wolfman23601]

Ok, so you admit there is can alleged off duty police officer? What was his/her name? Whether or not you believe that someone just ran around the woods in khaki pants and clean dress shoes or than someone is going to see his daughter and make gingerbread houses wearing camo is irrelevant other than the sheer unbelievable pieces of the official narrative. The important question is who was this off duty seat team officer from another town and what was he/she doing in the woods at Sandy Hook?

[combat_boots]

Oh. So, if police were there within 3 minutes of the call, shooting would still have been going on, in a hallway lined with rooms that have big windows. Why didn’t they just shoot the guy or shoot high, draw fire and spare lives?

I stand by that question and my questions on the logistics and chain of custody for video, audio and photographic evidence. 0bama and cabal intend, if at all possible, to confiscate weapons by conflating this incident with gun ownership. The explanations for Sandy Hook are as incomplete as the moagic bullet of 1963 and the stand down order in Benghazi.

At bottom, I don’t trust or believe those interests who are vested in following the recipe for overthrowing the US. At present, that includes a lot of territory.

[Uncle Chip]

Post the picture — maybe someone will recognize him.

[drjimmy]

Coincidence theorists like the author look foolish to me - running around plugging holes in the dyke. This is a coincidence, that’s a coincidence, the next fifty weird things about the case are all coincidences. And none of the coincidence theorists give any real accounting to the perennial question - “Qui Bono.” It’s all very convenient politically speaking

And yet you fail to see the absolute irony of your last sentence, in light of all the sentences that come before it.

[Uncle Chip]

If Manfredonia was handcuffed in the front seat of a police cruiser at the fire station then this is not Manfredonia.

This guy is not handcuffed and he is at the school and he is wearing what appears to be a black bulletproof vest and khaki camo pants and dress shoes which you would expect him to be wearing if he was off duty.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2978643/posts?page=175#175

[calex59]

Actually, most of this stuff in the article is just "explanations" with no real proof of anything, except for the gun parts. The Bushmaster was definitely the gun used by the shooter. However, even with these explanations doesn't mean this wasn't a put up job by the dimwits in order to pass their gun grabbing laws. In fact I believe that over the past 50 years or so more than one "mass shooting" was the work of left wing operatives with the intention of passing ever more restrictive gun laws.

Too many things point to this being true. Color me a conspiracy nut if you wish, but these things happen to often during a big push for gun control for them all to be done by "just some nut job".

Example: Big push in the early sixties for mail order guns to be outlawed. Bingo, President Kennedy is shot by a guy using(guess what) a mail order firearm. Before that they couldn't find an examples of mail order guns being used in crimes, at least not many. Now they had something solid to shove down our throats.

Like wise his brother was shot by a "Saturday night special" just when a big push to outlaw cheap firearms was going on. Viola, we were blessed with the 1968 firearms act.

Call me crazy if you wish, but too many such incidents have happened just when the big push for certain firearms restrictions was on. Remember what triggered the first so called "assault weapon" ban? It was a school shooting in Stockton CA by a released felon using a semi-auto(I think an M15)military look alike. Once again we have something very similar happening with the latest "assault weapons" gun grabbing attempt. Anyone who thinks all this sh** is just a coincidence needs to open their eyes. None of the stuff in this article disproves my(and many others)theory that the dimwits(communist)are behind these shooting, including the accidental discharges at 3 gun show yesterday.

[ctdonath2]

This sort of thing happens with enough frequency/regularity that no conspiracy is required - just be ready to move legislation and rhetoric when the next nut cracks.

[Uncle Chip]

Yep — another one:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265472/Boy-15-shoots-adults-kids-dead-assault-rifle-bloody-shooting-rampage.html

[Boogieman]

Well, be sure to let them know to call you next time they have a hostage rescue situation, to get the proper instructions, since you seem to have it all figured out.