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US planned to blow up the MOON with a nuclear bomb to win Cold War bragging rights over USSR
Daily Mail (U.K.) ^ | 25 November 2012 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 11/25/2012 4:28:28 PM PST by DogByte6RER

Revealed: How the U.S. planned to blow up the MOON with a nuclear bomb to win Cold War bragging rights over Soviet Union

- Scientists were hoping for giant flash on the moon that would intimidate the Soviet Union

- Aim of mission was to launch the nuke by 1959

- Plan was later scrapped due to possible danger to people on Earth

It may sound like a plot straight out of a science fiction novel, but a U.S. mission to blow up the moon with a nuke was very real in the 1950s.

At the height of the space race, the U.S. considered detonating an atom bomb on the moon as a display of America's Cold War muscle.

The secret project, innocuously titled 'A Study of Lunar Research Flights' and nicknamed 'Project A119,' was never carried out

However, its planning included calculations by astronomer Carl Sagan, then a young graduate student, of the behavior of dust and gas generated by the blast.

Viewing the nuclear flash from Earth might have intimidated the Soviet Union and boosted U.S. confidence after the launch of Sputnik, physicist Leonard Reiffel told the AP in a 2000 interview.

Reiffel, now 85, directed the inquiry at the former Armour Research Foundation, now part of the Illinois Institute of Technology. He later served as a deputy director at NASA.

Sagan, who later became renowned for popularizing science on television, died in 1996.

The author of one of Sagan's biographies suggested that he may have committed a security breach in 1959 after revealing the classified project in an academic fellowship application. Reiffel concurred.

Under the scenario, a missile carrying a small nuclear device was to be launched from an undisclosed location and travel 238,000 miles to the moon, where it would be detonated upon impact.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Chit/Chat; History; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 1950s; atomicbomb; braggingrights; coldwar; doctorstrangelove; fatman; moon; nuclearwarfare; nukes; nukethemoon; sovietunion; thebomb; ussr
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61 posted on 11/25/2012 5:29:42 PM PST by RedMDer (Please support Toys for Tots this CHRISTmas season.)
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To: DogByte6RER

Sound like BS to me. Its like news report that say US have plans about invading Australia


62 posted on 11/25/2012 5:30:20 PM PST by 4rcane
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To: DogByte6RER

To paraphrase Bugs Bunny; “What a Maroon!”

OK, that is a nice over-the-top hysterical hyperbole even for a London tabloid. Start with simple physics, it takes a great BIG ROCKET to get anything to the Moon. The Soviets did hit the Moon with Luna 2 in 1959 and that weighed 860 lbs. but we have to remember the fact that the USSR did have better throw-weight rockets than we did. Our best rockets at that time were the Atlas and Titan series and it took until 1962 for the Ranger 4 (806 lbs.) to actually hit the Moon [Atlas-Agena Rocket]!

Anybody care to guess what the lightest A-Bomb was at that time? I don’t know but I am willing to guess it was far more than 500 lbs. and then add G-Force resistance and an instrument package capable of controlling even a ballistic radar fused bomb would put it over the top there for that time period.

So what we have is an idiot newspaper looking at an old “blue sky project” and an even greater idiot writing the headline and introduction. Really stuck on stupid!


63 posted on 11/25/2012 5:34:09 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: cripplecreek
The light from the blast itself would certainly be brightly visible.

The first nukes that were exploded on Earth in July and August 1945 were bright enough to cause a reflected flash on the Moon visible to Earthbound observers.

I don't know if the Moon was in the right position to catch the flash on those particular occasions, but Richard Rhodes in The Making of the Atomic Bomb wrote about it as if this had indeed happened. I have not seen it recorded that anyone was actually looking at the Moon at those instants; possibly on some of the later scheduled tests.

64 posted on 11/25/2012 5:34:59 PM PST by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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To: DogByte6RER

FAKE!!!! Project A119 wasn’t the moon....It was Venus! Everybody knows it was Project A118 that was the moon. After John Glenn planted the bomb on the moon he returned and was fished out of the Pacific by that German aircraft carrier, (the one that had just launched the 1922 attack on Pearl Harbor). He filled FOX news in and so there ya go. THAT is how Project A118 was first known about. (Also, project A119 is still classified top secret so don’t blab it to any of those screwball FReepers, you know how they are!!).


65 posted on 11/25/2012 5:43:59 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: DogByte6RER
This just came to me and is a superior answer to my #63 post ...

Ever hear of a "Blue Sky" Project? It starts by imagining infinite money and ability thrown at a given goal - "Can it be done?" This is what "A Study of Lunar Research Flights" was and is. Every government has these and they are great fun and serve a useful purpose of challenging assumptions and old dictums.

As for this, it enables the Daily Mail to have its own fun and games about those evil/criminal crazies over the pond! Catering to their clientele so to speak.

66 posted on 11/25/2012 5:52:48 PM PST by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence but it is the road to our ruin!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Methinks we didn’t have the throw weight to get any of our nukes to the moon without an Apollo like effort.

This smells like bull Obama to me.


67 posted on 11/25/2012 5:53:40 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: DogByte6RER

Blow up the moon? Nonsense. A hundred nukes would stir up the dust but have little effect otherwise.

Carl been doin’ too much pot even then.


68 posted on 11/25/2012 5:56:59 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Shadow44
The Orion bombs would have been very small - on the order of less than a kiloton, but none would be used to launch it. Launch would have been by conventional means.

The fission detonations would only begin once Orion was above the atmosphere.

What killed it was a failure of political will. Otherwise, we would have been to Mars by 1965 and Venus by ‘73. An interstellar version was also planned with a crew of 265 or so.

We would have had successful colonies on both the Moon and Mars by now.

Instead we settled for third or fourth best alternative and ended up with the dangerous antiques: the Apollo and Space Shuttle. Both now dead.

As for blowing up the Moon - now or in the 50s - not a chance.

The largest fusion bomb ever detonated was by the Russians yielding 90 plus megatons. Many craters on the Moon were created by detonations in the millions of megatons for comparison. And the Moon is still there ...

69 posted on 11/25/2012 6:03:16 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: elcid1970

Illudium Q-36 explosive space modulator.


70 posted on 11/25/2012 6:06:37 PM PST by Astronaut
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To: DogByte6RER
Don't touch the moon;
I need it for loving.
Don't touch the stars;
I need them, too.
All you frantic scientists,
Find somewhere else to go.
--Cornell Blakeley
Don't Touch the Moon--Cornell Blakely, 1958
71 posted on 11/25/2012 6:11:23 PM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: DogByte6RER

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72 posted on 11/25/2012 6:16:55 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: SES1066

If we focus on warheads, then the lightest one in 1959 was the W-25 which weighed between 218 and 221 pounds; however, it had a yield of only 1.7 kilotons (much lower than either Fat Man or Little Boy). Lager yield warheads ranged in weight from about 900 pounds to over 6,000 pounds - the US nuclear bombs were even heavier (the Mk.24 bomb weighed over 40,000 pounds).


73 posted on 11/25/2012 6:20:13 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: elcid1970
“GET ME OUTTA HERE!!!!”

Ah man, those WERE the days...sigh....

74 posted on 11/25/2012 6:42:35 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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75 posted on 11/25/2012 6:42:43 PM PST by crusadersoldier
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To: DogByte6RER

The American Werewolf Society stopped it.


76 posted on 11/25/2012 6:57:51 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DogByte6RER

No one was going to blow up the moon. It may be smaller than Earth, but it’s still pretty darn big. As someone else said, we could put a decent crater in it. Even the biggest nukes ever produced (by the Soviets, who else) barely scratch the Earth’s surface. Of course they destroy the heck out of stuff within 10 miles and will leave a big crater with a huge scar....but it’s still no more than a scratch in our planet’s crust.


77 posted on 11/25/2012 6:58:20 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: BobL

Not even Tzar Bomba (designed for 100 megaton yield but tested at 50) would have done much more than made a light show and kicked up the dust.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba


78 posted on 11/25/2012 7:18:43 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Jonty30
Those moon craters were created by meteorites that hit it with more force than anything we can create at the time of this report and the moon is still their.

Our largest thermonuclear weapons were developed and tested prior to 1959.

With the increasing accuracy of our delivery systems we were able to reduce the yields of the weapons and thus the requirements for the huge quantities of fissile materials needed to build them. The people who were responsible for the development and employment of nuclear weapons did not want massive weapons, only ones big enough to perform required tasks needed to fight a war and thus deter our enemies from starting one.

79 posted on 11/25/2012 7:22:00 PM PST by OldMissileer
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To: DogByte6RER

Then, we would have had to rename Moon Pies. And I ain’t taking a bite out of anything called a Uranus Pie.


80 posted on 11/25/2012 7:22:15 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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